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OlympiaGym

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Re: Palumboism = adrenal fatigue
« Reply #25 on: October 23, 2015, 11:44:11 AM »
Interesting scientific/medical theory coming from a guy who couldn't make it out of the first semester of nursing school.
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Re: Palumboism = adrenal fatigue
« Reply #26 on: October 23, 2015, 11:53:16 AM »
Quote from: OlympiaGym on October 23, 2015, 11:44:11 AM
Interesting scientific/medical theory coming from a guy who couldn't make it out of the first semester of nursing school.

How do you think I understand the science?  I'm in school now genius. 
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Re: Palumboism = adrenal fatigue
« Reply #27 on: October 23, 2015, 11:57:55 AM »
There is nothing stopping anyone from posting scientific literature to refute anything you post.

That is just a personal attack.
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OlympiaGym

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Re: Palumboism = adrenal fatigue
« Reply #28 on: October 23, 2015, 12:00:51 PM »
Quote from: io856 on October 23, 2015, 11:57:55 AM
There is nothing stopping anyone from posting scientific literature to refute anything you post.

That is just a personal attack.

Yes, because a lot of scientific research, and resources, at the world's top research universities have been devoted to understanding the origin and causes of "Palumboism."
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OlympiaGym

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Re: Palumboism = adrenal fatigue
« Reply #29 on: October 23, 2015, 12:02:16 PM »
Quote from: Wiggs on October 23, 2015, 11:53:16 AM
How do you think I understand the science?  I'm in school now genius. 

I'm impressed, sir. Clark County Community College is no joke.
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Re: Palumboism = adrenal fatigue
« Reply #30 on: October 23, 2015, 12:04:57 PM »
Quote from: OlympiaGym on October 23, 2015, 12:00:51 PM
Yes, because a lot of scientific research, and resources, at the world's top research universities have been devoted to understanding the origin and causes of "Palumboism."
Well of course not...  ::)

But it doesn't need to focus on "palumboism" we are talking about muscle wastage, visceral fat accumulation and stomach distention. We are talking about extensively studied anabolic steroids, insulin, growth hormone and physical stressors.
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OlympiaGym

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Re: Palumboism = adrenal fatigue
« Reply #31 on: October 23, 2015, 12:07:34 PM »
Quote from: io856 on October 23, 2015, 12:04:57 PM
Well of course not...  ::)

But it doesn't need to focus on "palumboism" we are talking about muscle wastage, visceral fat accumulation and stomach distention.

None of which has ever been researched in this context, at least as far as I am aware.

I feel like I'm in alternative universe insofar as seemingly reasonable people are taking this thread seriously. We all know Uncle Wiggs is off his rocker.
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Re: Palumboism = adrenal fatigue
« Reply #32 on: October 23, 2015, 12:25:42 PM »
Quote from: OlympiaGym on October 23, 2015, 12:07:34 PM
None of which has ever been researched in this context, at least as far as I am aware.

I feel like I'm in alternative universe insofar as seemingly reasonable people are taking this thread seriously. We all know Uncle Wiggs is off his rocker.
We are all off our rocker in the bodybuilding world lol...

Its a very interesting topic, its the unsightly stain of modern bodybuilding.
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Re: Palumboism = adrenal fatigue
« Reply #33 on: October 23, 2015, 12:34:47 PM »
Whether wiggs is right or wrong its a new and interesting theory, top stuff from the original,original hebrew

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The Abdominal Snoman

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Re: Palumboism = adrenal fatigue
« Reply #34 on: October 23, 2015, 12:52:52 PM »
Quote from: viking1 on October 23, 2015, 11:10:27 AM
The people who have to wake up with a pot of coffee and no food until the evening.

I don't know man. There's some decent fitness type bodies out there(no homo) where guys eat once or twice a day and live off coffee. 
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The Abdominal Snoman

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Re: Palumboism = adrenal fatigue
« Reply #35 on: October 23, 2015, 12:57:31 PM »
Wiggs, in your opinion does SEO oil come into effect at all with people with Palumboism? It seems like every bodybuilder with Palumboism also abused SEO/type oils...
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Re: Palumboism = adrenal fatigue
« Reply #36 on: October 23, 2015, 01:10:38 PM »
Quote from: OlympiaGym on October 23, 2015, 12:02:16 PM
I'm impressed, sir. Clark County Community College is no joke.

I'm not there.  lol I'm at a University.  Asshole
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io856

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Re: Palumboism = adrenal fatigue
« Reply #37 on: October 23, 2015, 01:14:56 PM »
Quote from: The Abdominal Snoman on October 23, 2015, 12:57:31 PM
Wiggs, in your opinion does SEO oil come into effect at all with people with Palumboism? It seems like every bodybuilder with Palumboism also abused SEO/type oils...
I remember seeing Piana talk about a reduction of blood flow to extensively SEO'd bodyparts...
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Re: Palumboism = adrenal fatigue
« Reply #38 on: October 23, 2015, 03:20:09 PM »
Interesting thread Wiggs..........food for thought.
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Re: Palumboism = adrenal fatigue
« Reply #39 on: October 23, 2015, 03:55:31 PM »
It doesn't seem like Palumbo has had a particularly stressful life and he always talks about how he isn't fond of stimulants and found getting shredded easier than most bodybuilders.

The reality is that it's almost all genetics. It's definitely not "receptor burnout" as some people have claimed because the amount of androgen receptors actually increase over long periods of gear use lol.
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Re: Palumboism = adrenal fatigue
« Reply #40 on: October 23, 2015, 04:02:55 PM »
Interesting thoughts, would hold more weight of coming from someone who didn't think white man has only existed for the last 30 years and that we should have died weeks ago at the hands of planet nigiru
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Re: Palumboism = adrenal fatigue
« Reply #41 on: October 23, 2015, 05:00:45 PM »
What interests me about the concept of increased visceral fat is the allusion in other threads to the possibility that there are people out there who have actually had some form of internal liposuction ( :o)  Is this BS?  Anyone enlighten me?
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Re: Palumboism = adrenal fatigue
« Reply #42 on: October 23, 2015, 05:05:05 PM »
Good stuff Wiggs
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Re: Palumboism = adrenal fatigue
« Reply #43 on: October 23, 2015, 05:12:03 PM »
Thx wiggs
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Re: Palumboism = adrenal fatigue
« Reply #44 on: October 23, 2015, 06:17:42 PM »
No, the atrophied limbs is due to cervical spinal stenosis. Heavy lifting over many years can cause this as well as being born with it. I had surgery to remove 3 discs in my neck that were pinching my spinal cord. That's when I was diagnosed with the stenosis, or narrowing of the spinal canal. My triceps and outer quads are both noticeably smaller than they were say 5 years ago. And body weight and strength are the same in that span. Tommywishbone can add to this as he has the same condition.

As far as the big bellies, who knows. I'd say visceral fat from insulin abuse for years on end.
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Re: Palumboism = adrenal fatigue
« Reply #45 on: October 23, 2015, 06:20:44 PM »
Quote from: Wiggs on October 23, 2015, 01:10:38 PM
I'm not there.  lol I'm at a University.  Asshole

Unless you're in pre med, fuck off.
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Re: Palumboism = adrenal fatigue
« Reply #46 on: October 23, 2015, 06:24:00 PM »
Quote from: beakdoctor on October 23, 2015, 06:20:44 PM
Unless you're in pre med, fuck off.

Fuck premed. Western medicine generally speaking is garbage.  They treat symptoms,  not problems.  Fucking hacks.
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Re: Palumboism = adrenal fatigue
« Reply #47 on: October 24, 2015, 02:29:15 PM »
Quote from: io856 on October 23, 2015, 10:58:02 AM
I have often read about adrenal fatigue as a fallacy.
Would you agree upon some of the contributory factors I listed earlier?
I think insulin resistance is playing a big role here.
What are your thoughts on the topic?

Adrenal fatigue is one thing, something that can't be verified with blood work etc.

As far as the rest, I think thelamefalsehood has a good explanation for at least some of the atrophy. Add in the small (and big) muscle tears and the body will start to look worn.

As far as the gut, stretching of the abdominals through enormous amounts of food along with heavy lifting where the gut expands like crazy. The abs start to separate (and some even get hernias) on many guys like Phil Heath and I don't think organ growth and visceral fat is the major reason, though they can contribute.
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Re: Palumboism = adrenal fatigue
« Reply #48 on: October 24, 2015, 02:32:15 PM »
Quote from: Van_Bilderass on October 24, 2015, 02:29:15 PM
Adrenal fatigue is one thing, something that can't be verified with blood work etc.

As far as the rest, I think thelamefalsehood has a good explanation for at least some of the atrophy. Add in the small (and big) muscle tears and the body will start to look worn.

As far as the gut, stretching of the abdominals through enormous amounts of food along with heavy lifting where the gut expands like crazy. The abs start to separate (and some even get hernias) on many guys like Phil Heath and I don't think organ growth and visceral fat is the major reason, though they can contribute.

How can it be verified?
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Re: Palumboism = adrenal fatigue
« Reply #49 on: October 24, 2015, 02:52:25 PM »
Quote from: Wiggs on October 23, 2015, 11:53:16 AM
How do you think I understand the science?  I'm in school now genius. 


Didnt u think the earth was 6000 years old like the bible says? Um....
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