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Re: cop removes disruptive female urban youth from class
« Reply #150 on: October 28, 2015, 02:15:31 PM »
... or the kid across the room, who trips on the computer cord trying to intervene. Or the helpful teacher rushing over from across the hall, slips on a carelessly discarded banana peel ...

What kid, and what teacher?

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Re: cop removes disruptive female urban youth from class
« Reply #151 on: October 28, 2015, 02:18:28 PM »
I read the girl was new to the school, was very quiet and kept to herself.

It'll all come out on The View once the President's done with her.

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Re: cop removes disruptive female urban youth from class
« Reply #152 on: October 28, 2015, 02:18:48 PM »
Is it possible that a teenage girl was having a terrible day and was feeling crushed by some emotion unrelated to the scene?

She's a teenage girl.  She's emotionally crushed when her mom buys brown sugar pop tarts instead of strawberry.  

She probably got less than 100 likes on an Instagram post or something
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Re: cop removes disruptive female urban youth from class
« Reply #153 on: October 28, 2015, 02:20:32 PM »
It's hard to say. It's a bad position to be in no matter what. Almost any physical contact with the subject can come across as monstrous if they are resisting and start screaming and jerking about. And there are a lot of things you could try that would likely be ineffective, making you look like an idiot while trying to be gentle. I've gotten people out of the car that didn't want to come out by joint lock, pressure point or just plain brute force on occasion but his idea would have worked had the chair been a secured to the ground vehicle seat. And honestly, had he applied a joint lock and she screamed and struggled and the chair fell over we'd still be having this conversation. Getting someone to do something they don't want to rarely looks pretty in real life.

Having said all that, I would have probably grabbed her arm and gave her instructions to get up.. which she would have refused.  I would give her a direct order explaining she will be arrested if she doesn't comply. I would likely have went ahead at that point and handcuffed her while she was seated and asked an administrator to grab one side while I grabbed the other and unassed her from the chair and walk her out. There are pressure points under the ear that are a good place to start. There is a nasty thumb lock that I've found to be very effective on passive resisting subjects.  But if I were that cops boss, I wouldn't fire him for that specific incident, but I would insure he has either a refresher, or initial training on dealing with non compliant resistance so this is handled differently next time.         
Just a bad spot for an LEO to be in. Extremely difficult job, under appreciated by most and underpaid. I have a lot of respect for officers who do their job to the best of their abilities.
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Re: cop removes disruptive female urban youth from class
« Reply #154 on: October 28, 2015, 02:23:28 PM »
She's a teenage girl.  She's emotionally crushed when her mom buys brown sugar pop tarts instead of strawberry.  

She probably got less than 100 likes on an Instagram post or something

Teenage girls can be almost mentally ill due to emotion.  That's true.  You know it, I know it, so why didn't the cop know it?

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Re: cop removes disruptive female urban youth from class
« Reply #155 on: October 28, 2015, 02:24:09 PM »
Right, like the guy who isn't presently burglarizing the house when cops find him later. That shit happened earlier, why on earth arrest him NOW when he's so not stealing anything?

And, of course, your suggestions don't undermine the teacher's authority one bit. I'm sure all the other would-be turds (who now know they can punk this teacher at will) would never even consider disrupting the class just for kicks.


They called in the muscleman on this girl to make an example out of her and when she got it, that was exactly what was desired. The school's not complaining about it one bit. They seem to agree that it's the appropriate way to maintain an orderly learning environment. That's what cops are for!

Personally, I don't consider that an appropriate use of police. Maybe I just turn into a bleeding heart when big men beat down little girls. I guess we'll have to see what the DOJ has to say about it.  :D
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Re: cop removes disruptive female urban youth from class
« Reply #156 on: October 28, 2015, 02:24:52 PM »
Teenage girls can be almost mentally ill due to emotion.  That's true.  You know it, I know it, so why didn't the cop know it?
He is a cop not a psychologist.
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Re: cop removes disruptive female urban youth from class
« Reply #157 on: October 28, 2015, 02:27:01 PM »
They called in the muscleman on this girl to make an example out of her and when she got it, that was exactly what was desired. The school's not complaining about it one bit. They seem to agree that it's the appropriate way to maintain an orderly learning environment. That's what cops are for!

Personally, I don't consider that an appropriate use of police. Maybe I just turn into a bleeding heart when big men beat down little girls. I guess well have to see what the DOJ has to say about it.  :D

Or maybe they just got sick of her disrupting class every day, stealing everyone's learning time. Certainly would explain why the school's on board.

Fuck it, though, another social justice hero. Knock yourselves out.

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Re: cop removes disruptive female urban youth from class
« Reply #158 on: October 28, 2015, 02:28:20 PM »
He is a cop not a psychologist.

He is dumb as a box of rocks.

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Re: cop removes disruptive female urban youth from class
« Reply #159 on: October 28, 2015, 02:34:45 PM »
Or maybe they just sick of her disrupting class every day.

A microchip implant would be a more humane solution to maintaining order, I support that or perhaps a device fitted to the chair. Maybe something that would administer a small electrical shock to unruly kids. Technology is the way of the future no cops required.
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Re: cop removes disruptive female urban youth from class
« Reply #160 on: October 28, 2015, 02:38:10 PM »
A microchip implant would be a more humane solution to maintaining order, I support that or perhaps a device fitted to the chair. Maybe something that would administer a small electrical shock to unruly kids. Technology is the way of the future no cops required.

Or just drag her outta class, either way.

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Re: cop removes disruptive female urban youth from class
« Reply #161 on: October 28, 2015, 02:38:45 PM »
A microchip implant would be a more humane solution to maintaining order, I support that or perhaps a device fitted to the chair. Maybe something that would administer a small electrical shock to unruly kids. Technology is the way of the future no cops required.

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Re: cop removes disruptive female urban youth from class
« Reply #162 on: October 28, 2015, 02:40:12 PM »
Or maybe they just got sick of her disrupting class every day, stealing everyone's learning time. Certainly would explain why the school's on board.

Fuck it, though, another social justice hero. Knock yourselves out.

Had she been disrupting class every day?  (idk, serious)

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Re: cop removes disruptive female urban youth from class
« Reply #163 on: October 28, 2015, 02:48:24 PM »
He is dumb as a box of rocks, is what.

Still no excuse to behave until police force is necessary. The school is a place to learn, not to cause problems. Most kids get disciplined by the teachers which is(should be) more than enough.

This ugly dumb girl probably caused problems before, the teachers resorted to call police since they didn't see another option.
Now a policeman is now out of job, teachers/principals harassed by #blackshitematters all because her lazy dumb fat ass didn't want to listen to the teacher and was wasting everyones time anyway.

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Re: cop removes disruptive female urban youth from class
« Reply #164 on: October 28, 2015, 02:49:10 PM »
Should have tazed the little brat.
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: cop removes disruptive female urban youth from class
« Reply #165 on: October 28, 2015, 02:54:56 PM »
Had she been disrupting class every day?  (idk, serious)

No, just like the ten seconds on film. Always sat silently, never bothered a soul.

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Re: cop removes disruptive female urban youth from class
« Reply #166 on: October 28, 2015, 02:55:25 PM »
Should have tazed the little brat.

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Re: cop removes disruptive female urban youth from class
« Reply #167 on: October 28, 2015, 02:57:19 PM »
No, just like the ten seconds on film. Always sat silently, never bothered a soul.

Everything I've read about her says she was quiet and kept to herself.

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Re: cop removes disruptive female urban youth from class
« Reply #168 on: October 28, 2015, 03:01:33 PM »
Everything I've read about her says she was quiet and kept to herself.

Yeah, very Mike Brown. Crazy that they always pick on the innocents.

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Re: cop removes disruptive female urban youth from class
« Reply #169 on: October 28, 2015, 03:01:42 PM »
Everything I've read about her says she was quiet and kept to herself.

Having worked in the schools I will tell you that we routinely called the police to remove students who were quiet and kept to themselves.  ::)

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Re: cop removes disruptive female urban youth from class
« Reply #170 on: October 28, 2015, 03:03:53 PM »
Everything I've read about her says she was quiet and kept to herself.
I highly doubt that #dindunuffinsMyASS

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Re: cop removes disruptive female urban youth from class
« Reply #171 on: October 28, 2015, 03:04:12 PM »
Having worked in the schools I will tell you that we routinely called the police to remove students who were quiet and kept to themselves.  ::)

So what information do you claim to have about this particular girl, then?

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Re: cop removes disruptive female urban youth from class
« Reply #172 on: October 28, 2015, 03:06:20 PM »
So what information do you claim to have about this particular girl, then?

She was a disruptive c unt.

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Re: cop removes disruptive female urban youth from class
« Reply #173 on: October 28, 2015, 03:06:40 PM »
I highly doubt that #dindunuffinsMyASS

I don't doubt that you doubt.

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Re: cop removes disruptive female urban youth from class
« Reply #174 on: October 28, 2015, 03:11:49 PM »
So what information do you claim to have about this particular girl, then?
Don't be dense, who calls the police on a quiet innocent girl? Disrupting lazy bad attitude girl? yes

Most here are using their logic, unlike you.

At this point you're just trolling.