Flushots whats the big deal?

[Pneumothorax]

Ok getbiggers, I'm gonna start this off and say that generally when I see the public doing something in mass and the government promoting something heavily alarm bells start going off in my head that something is fucked up. 

So what is the deal with flu shots?  What conspiracy theories are there about flushots?  Why don't they work?  What are they really injecting us with?

[Core]

i think its bullshit i havent had one since i was a kid.

[trapz101]

I had once years ago and as the result i got fever for days 

[Jizmonkey]

They work.

[lilhawk1]

Complete scam.  I work in medical field and they're a joke.  Last years was a complete miss, ended up being 20% effective.  I've had the flu more since we were required to get one.

[_bruce_]

I would argue against it. But from what I've read the bad thing about some vaccinations are the metals/impurities not the vaccine itself.

[Twaddle]

Before the flu shot, I got the flue damn near every year, like clock work.  Been getting the flu shot for the last 9 years, and haven't had the flu the last 9.   

[Marty Champions]

The flu  almost killed me last year seemingly

[Twaddle]

The flu  almost killed me last year seemingly

How bad did you get it?   

[milone79]

Before the flu shot, I got the flue damn near every year, like clock work.  Been getting the flu shot for the last 9 years, and haven't had the flu the last 9.   

correlation does not = causation...Guess what fuck face I have never had a flu shot and can't tell you the last time I had the flu either......the flu shot is a scam...even the WHO and CDC come out every year and say its ineffective but big pharma has money to make so the govt (their little bitch) pushes it down everyone's throat year after year....

[Twaddle]

correlation does not = causation...Guess what fuck face I have never had a flu shot and can't tell you the last time I had the flu either......the flu shot is a scam...even the WHO and CDC come out every year and say its ineffective but big pharma has money to make so the govt (their little bitch) pushes it down everyone's throat year after year....

Thank you for your beautiful, uneducated insight, but I think I will stick with science that says, "Yes, it is effective".   

Belshe RB, Mendelman PM, Treanor, et al. The efficacy of live attenuated, cold-adapted, trivalent, intranasal influenza virus vaccine in children. N Engl J Med. 1998; 338(20):1405-12.

Benowitz I, Esposito DB, Gracey KD, et al. Influenza vaccine given to pregnant women reduces hospitalization due to influenza in their infants. Clin Infect Dis. 2010; 51(12):1355-61.

Ciszewski A, Bilinska ZT, Brydak LB, et al. Influenza vaccination in secondary prevention from coronary ischaemic events in coronary artery disease: FLUCAD study. Eur Heart J. 2008 Jun; 29(11):1350-8.

Colquhoun AJ, Nicholson KG , Botha JL, Raymond NT. Effectiveness of influenza vaccine in reducing hospital admissions in people with diabetes. Epidemiol Infect. 1997; 119(3):335-41.

Ferdinands JM, Olsho LEW, Agan AA, et al. Effectiveness of influenza vaccine against life-threatening RT-PCR-confirmed influenza illness in US children, 2010-2012. J Infect Dis. 2014; 210(5):674-683.

Phrommintikul A, Kuanprasert S, Wongcharoen W,et al. Influenza vaccination reduces cardiovascular events in patients with acute coronary syndrome. Eur Heart J. 2011; 32(14):1730-5.

Talbot HK, Griffin, MR, Chen Q, et al. Effectiveness of seasonal vaccine in preventing confirmed influenza-associated hospitalizations in community dwelling older adults. J. Infect Dis 2011; 203:500-8.

Talbot HK, Zhu Y, Chen Q, et al. Effectiveness of influenza vaccine for preventing laboratory-confirmed influenza hospitalizations in adults, 2011-2012 influenza season. Clin Infect Dis. 2013; 56(12): 1774-7.

Udell JA, Zawi R, Bhatt DL, et al. Association between influenza vaccination and cardiovascular outcomes in high-risk patients: a meta-analysis. JAMA. 2013; 310(16): 1711-20.

[falco]

Only took them twice in my life. Had the worst flu cases ever then.

[BlackMetallic]

The CDC combines flu vaccine stats with pneumonia

 

[Nether Animal]

I got one in 2014, and then didn't get sick.

Of course I never left the house that entire winter...

[robcguns]

Never had one and dont plan on it.dont think ive ever had the flu.

[SquidVicious]

It's the fucking flu, not Ebola. So you're sick for a few days, lay in bed watching cartoons while your girl fixes you soup and you get a few days off work. People are such pussies these days.

[Twaddle]

It's the fucking flu, not Ebola. So you're sick for a few days, lay in bed watching cartoons while your girl fixes you soup and you get a few days off work. People are such pussies these days.

Serious question, have you had the flu, and were those your symptoms above?  My experience has been completely different.  High fever, vomiting, smashing headache, uncontrollable shaking, chills, every joint aches.  When I've had it in the past, these symptoms last for roughly 4-5 days, followed by about 2-3 days of lessening symptoms.  I'm usually wiped out of commission for 4-5 days, and weak as fuck for about 4-5 more.   

[El Diablo Blanco]

Big big big multi billion dollar business. 

[Yamcha]

Serious question, have you had the flu, and were those your symptoms above?  My experience has been completely different.  High fever, vomiting, smashing headache, uncontrollable shaking, chills, every joint aches.  When I've had it in the past, these symptoms last for roughly 4-5 days, followed by about 2-3 days of lessening symptoms.  I'm usually wiped out of commission for 4-5 days, and weak as fuck for about 4-5 more.   

Beta...

[Twaddle]

Beta...

 

[milone79]

Thank you for your beautiful, uneducated insight, but I think I will stick with science that says, "Yes, it is effective".   

Belshe RB, Mendelman PM, Treanor, et al. The efficacy of live attenuated, cold-adapted, trivalent, intranasal influenza virus vaccine in children. N Engl J Med. 1998; 338(20):1405-12.

Benowitz I, Esposito DB, Gracey KD, et al. Influenza vaccine given to pregnant women reduces hospitalization due to influenza in their infants. Clin Infect Dis. 2010; 51(12):1355-61.

Ciszewski A, Bilinska ZT, Brydak LB, et al. Influenza vaccination in secondary prevention from coronary ischaemic events in coronary artery disease: FLUCAD study. Eur Heart J. 2008 Jun; 29(11):1350-8.

Colquhoun AJ, Nicholson KG , Botha JL, Raymond NT. Effectiveness of influenza vaccine in reducing hospital admissions in people with diabetes. Epidemiol Infect. 1997; 119(3):335-41.

Ferdinands JM, Olsho LEW, Agan AA, et al. Effectiveness of influenza vaccine against life-threatening RT-PCR-confirmed influenza illness in US children, 2010-2012. J Infect Dis. 2014; 210(5):674-683.

Phrommintikul A, Kuanprasert S, Wongcharoen W,et al. Influenza vaccination reduces cardiovascular events in patients with acute coronary syndrome. Eur Heart J. 2011; 32(14):1730-5.

Talbot HK, Griffin, MR, Chen Q, et al. Effectiveness of seasonal vaccine in preventing confirmed influenza-associated hospitalizations in community dwelling older adults. J. Infect Dis 2011; 203:500-8.

Talbot HK, Zhu Y, Chen Q, et al. Effectiveness of influenza vaccine for preventing laboratory-confirmed influenza hospitalizations in adults, 2011-2012 influenza season. Clin Infect Dis. 2013; 56(12): 1774-7.

Udell JA, Zawi R, Bhatt DL, et al. Association between influenza vaccination and cardiovascular outcomes in high-risk patients: a meta-analysis. JAMA. 2013; 310(16): 1711-20.

have fun with that dipshit.....enjoy your Alzheimer's in later years from all the other toxins in the jab too.....lol

 http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/04/health/flu-vaccine-mutated-virus/

http://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/news/20150226/flu-vaccine-effectiveness


http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/12/3/flu-vaccine-ineffective.html


http://news.yahoo.com/flu-shot-just-23-percent-effective-us-180817997.html;_ylt=AwrBTvnt3TBWdbEAY.LrFAx.;_ylu=X3oDMTEydXQwcWVkBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMzBHZ0aWQDQjAzMDlfMQRzZWMDc3I-



Keep living in fear and taking it up the ass by big pharma/govt.!!!

[Man of Steel]

I've gotten a flu shot every year for the past 8 years or so....maybe longer...can't remember for sure.  95% of the time I haven't gotten the flu.

Flu shot isn't a guarantee that you won't get flu because every strain can't be anticipated or known. 

Like someone above, said last years shot was miss because the mix was only 20% effective....apparently it missed all sorts of strains I'd assume. 

In the last decade I've only contracted flu once that I can remember and I did get the flu shot that year.

[oldtimer1]

I only caught the flu twice in my life and I'm nearly 60. It's devastating. I increase my odds of staying healthy with the flu shot and decrease the risk factors. You guys that catch colds and say you have the flu don't have a clue. 

[SquidVicious]

Serious question, have you had the flu, and were those your symptoms above?  My experience has been completely different.  High fever, vomiting, smashing headache, uncontrollable shaking, chills, every joint aches.  When I've had it in the past, these symptoms last for roughly 4-5 days, followed by about 2-3 days of lessening symptoms.  I'm usually wiped out of commission for 4-5 days, and weak as fuck for about 4-5 more.   

Here's how it usually goes for me. Feel it coming on with swollen glands or tickle in throat. Lasts a few hours before giving way to chills/fever which sends me to bed bundled up with 5 blankets. 8-18 hours later, I'm sweating it out and pushing past the headache and on the uptick. Taking it easy, eating toast and bananas and maybe another day feeling weak but the worst is behind me. Then a BJ from my girlfriend and that's it. Feeling better and ready to go home to my wife, fresh as a daisy.

[Twaddle]

have fun with that dipshit.....enjoy your Alzheimer's in later years from all the other toxins in the jab too.....lol

 http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/04/health/flu-vaccine-mutated-virus/

http://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/news/20150226/flu-vaccine-effectiveness


http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/12/3/flu-vaccine-ineffective.html


http://news.yahoo.com/flu-shot-just-23-percent-effective-us-180817997.html;_ylt=AwrBTvnt3TBWdbEAY.LrFAx.;_ylu=X3oDMTEydXQwcWVkBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMzBHZ0aWQDQjAzMDlfMQRzZWMDc3I-



Keep living in fear and taking it up the ass by big pharma/govt.!!!

What's your point?  Every year will have a different efficacy based on many variable conditions.  This is no secret.  Some years are a slam dunk, and other years, not so much.  However, it still has a certain efficacy.  IE, it can help people.  For me, if it only has a 10% efficacy, it's still worth it. 

And where did you get the idea that flu shots cause Alzheimer's?  Have you been reading Wiggs websites?