DEBATE PART 3!!!!

[The True Adonis]

hahaha as it has been determined that it is a constitutional right.....YOU HAVE TO CHANGE AN AMENDMENT TO GET RID OF ABORTION ENTIRELY.

restrictions can be placed on it just like they already have been and have been on guns, to ban abortions...youre going to need a constitutional amendment

No you don't. 

[The True Adonis]

hahaha as it has been determined that it is a constitutional right.....YOU HAVE TO CHANGE AN AMENDMENT TO GET RID OF ABORTION ENTIRELY.

restrictions can be placed on it just like they already have been and have been on guns, to ban abortions...youre going to need a constitutional amendment

I guess you never heard of Plessy vs. Ferguson and the subsequent Brown vs. Board of Education.

[tonymctones]

No you don't.  

what legislation then has been proposed to ban all abortions?

if it was as simple as passing legislation then surely some nut job rep would have proposed it right?

trust bro, Im dating a liberal attorney who graduated at the top of her class from one of the best law schools around...i have gotten more than an ear full LOL

[tonymctones]

I guess you never heard of Plessy vs. Ferguson and the subsequent Brown vs. Board of Education.

so your point is to point out cases that had rulings deemed unconstitutional later on???

how do these apply to the constitutional right to an abortion but not guns?

you and 240 man LMFAO

[The True Adonis]

what legislation then has been proposed to ban all abortions?

if it was as simple as passing legislation then surely some nut job rep would have proposed it right?

trust bro, Im dating a liberal attorney who graduated at the top of her class from one of the best law schools around...i have gotten more than an ear full LOL

http://thinkprogress.org/health/2015/01/07/3608821/congress-20-week-abortion/

Congress Introduces A National Abortion Ban On Its Very First Day Back

https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/house-bill/1797

H.R.1797 - Pain-Capable Unborn Child Protection Act113th Congress (2013-2014)

Pain-Capable Unborn Child Protection Act - Amends the federal criminal code to prohibit any person from performing or attempting to perform an abortion except in conformity with this Act's requirements.

[tonymctones]

http://thinkprogress.org/health/2015/01/07/3608821/congress-20-week-abortion/

Congress Introduces A National Abortion Ban On Its Very First Day Back

https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/house-bill/1797

H.R.1797 - Pain-Capable Unborn Child Protection Act113th Congress (2013-2014)

Pain-Capable Unborn Child Protection Act - Amends the federal criminal code to prohibit any person from performing or attempting to perform an abortion except in conformity with this Act's requirements.

HAHHAHAHA

that was a 20 week abortion ban moron, again restrictions can be placed on it just like they have been on guns.


try again....

[tonymctones]

Here you go I found one

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Life_Amendment

theres a problem though....ITS FOR AN AMMENDMENT TO THE CONSTITUTION

[The True Adonis]

so your point is to point out cases that had rulings deemed unconstitutional later on???

how do these apply to the constitutional right to an abortion but not guns?

you and 240 man LMFAO

How can I help you understand the difference between The Constitution which gives every citizen natural rights-explicitly stated (only to be changed by a Constitutional amendment), and other rights, that are implied-derived from Supreme Court interpretation and can be changed without a Constitutional amendment?  

[The True Adonis]

Here you go I found one

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Life_Amendment

theres a problem though....ITS FOR AN AMMENDMENT TO THE CONSTITUTION

Thanks for proving my point.

They want an AMENDMENT to the Constitution so that they can subvert the previous Supreme Court rulings and establish a ban on abortion as an explicit power STATED DIRECTLY in the Constitution which would require any opposition to go through the Amendment process.

Now you are getting it. (I think)

[The True Adonis]

Carson would love to appoint Pro Life Judges that would support such a stupid Amendment as the Human Life Amendment and even worse, appoint judges that would not have any problem with overturning previous Supreme Court decisions on abortion.

[tonymctones]

Thanks for proving my point.

They want an AMENDMENT to the Constitution so that they can subvert the previous Supreme Court rulings and establish a ban on abortion as an explicit power STATED DIRECTLY in the Constitution which would require any opposition to go through the Amendment process.

Now you are getting it. (I think)

hahah no fucktard....

from the link

"The Human Life Amendment is the name for any amendment to the United States Constitution that would have the effect of overturning the Supreme Court 1973 decision Roe v. Wade, that denied states the authority to prohibit abortion. All of these amendment proposals seek to overturn Roe v. Wade, but most of them go further by forbidding both Congress and the states from legalizing abortion."

pay attention to the glowing part first, the underlined part is in addition to the first not in place of the first...idiot

[240 is Back]

let's clean up the name calling.   Things have been happy and friendly here without all that.

[tonymctones]

let's clean up the name calling.   Things have been happy and friendly here without all that.

im sure it is nice to contradict yourself in the same thread without being called out...not gonna happen with me but im sure it is nice

[The True Adonis]

hahah no fucktard....

from the link

"The Human Life Amendment is the name for any amendment to the United States Constitution that would have the effect of overturning the Supreme Court 1973 decision Roe v. Wade, that denied states the authority to prohibit abortion. All of these amendment proposals seek to overturn Roe v. Wade, but most of them go further by forbidding both Congress and the states from legalizing abortion."

pay attention to the glowing part first, the underlined part is in addition to the first not in place of the first...idiot

Oh my, you are making my point exactly but don't even realize it.

[240 is Back]

Repubs are not acting very tough about the debates. 

Holding a conference because they didn't like the line of questioning.  Hey, don't lie, yall love having he media captive to beat on them.  You were just mad they called yall when you tried to dodge questions.  Which you did. 

Just shut up and get tough.  If you had the good answers, then crap questions don't bother you, cause it gives u a national audience of swing voters you Will need. 

[headhuntersix]

The questions were BS...gimme a break. CNN - who is your enemy....softball to bash repubs/teaparty/cons
CNBC - what is your greatest weakness.....in reality "tell us why you suck"....wtf kinda question is that.

[240 is Back]

What is your greatest weakness?

This question is asked in most interviews, from bag boys to librarians. 

We should step back and wonder how "tough" the repubs are, if they're angry they are asked such a simple q that the rest of us have been asked in interviews. 

All this whining takes away the rugged, renegade, tough image they've worked hard to cultivate.  They only get to play the victim for a day.  It's day 2 now?  At some point, we have to tell them to get over the butthurt and use this platform to give us some solutions to the problems facing America. 

So much butthurt.  Toughen up. Party of Clint Eastwood huh?

[Dos Equis]

The questions were BS...gimme a break. CNN - who is your enemy....softball to bash repubs/teaparty/cons
CNBC - what is your greatest weakness.....in reality "tell us why you suck"....wtf kinda question is that.

Tell me about it.  Worst I've seen. 

[240 is Back]

Tell me about it.  Worst I've seen. 

still, they want to be tough.  they want to say they can face down isis and putin.  But they've been real wimps about this.

they attacked each other way worse than the moderators did.   Jeb bitching out Rubio for not voting enough, lol, what was that?  Kasich telling everyone to STFU about fantasy football lol.

Reince priebus trying to stay relevant, making all these motions about banning NBC involvement because they were too mean.

that kinda wimpy talk is what makes republicans lose elections.  Grow a backbone, and say "Bring the tough Qs, because once you do, I have 30 seconds to say what i want to a LIBERAL AUDIENCE, and I'll win them over!

You can do all the 'home games' that you want, for friendly FOX viewers and religious base voters.  but that doesn't give you the swing voters (like CNBC viewers and MSNBC viewers) that you need to win the election.

See, if fox voters decided elections, obama never wins

[Dos Equis]

still, they want to be tough.  they want to say they can face down isis and putin.  But they've been real wimps about this.

they attacked each other way worse than the moderators did.   Jeb bitching out Rubio for not voting enough, lol, what was that?  Kasich telling everyone to STFU about fantasy football lol.

Reince priebus trying to stay relevant, making all these motions about banning NBC involvement because they were too mean.

that kinda wimpy talk is what makes republicans lose elections.  Grow a backbone, and say "Bring the tough Qs, because once you do, I have 30 seconds to say what i want to a LIBERAL AUDIENCE, and I'll win them over!

You can do all the 'home games' that you want, for friendly FOX viewers and religious base voters.  but that doesn't give you the swing voters (like CNBC viewers and MSNBC viewers) that you need to win the election.

See, if fox voters decided elections, obama never wins

Exactly the kind of thing I would expect you to say.  What's funny is even the MSM saw how bad those moderators were and only the worst of the worst, like Huffington Post, had a headline that said "you can't handle the truth."  You have to be a real liberal hack to watch that debate and not see how incredibly biased it was. 

[240 is Back]

Exactly the kind of thing I would expect you to say.  What's funny is even the MSM saw how bad those moderators were and only the worst of the worst, like Huffington Post, had a headline that said "you can't handle the truth."  You have to be a real liberal hack to watch that debate and not see how incredibly biased it was. 

Read the BOLD below.  I want hilary and bernie to be grilled exactly the SAME way by levin, hannity, etc. 

Seriously, you dont know if a canddiate is worth their salt until you see them sweat, til you see them hit with some tough Qs, til you see them get blindsided.   If a candidate is that frozen, befuddled, knocked back by a rude Q from a CNBC nobody... how will they react to "sir, we've just been attacked and we have 10 minutes to send $ or they do it again".   

Shit, yall are too soft on them.  I want brain scans, blood tests, urinalysis, and yes, rude questions, from a person we trust with our lives, economy, and the nuke football.  Ya know, DE, maybe if Hannity and Levin had asked obama tough Qs in 2008, he might have lost the election after coming unraveled?  OReilly had him on right before election and tossed softballs, I recall

hey, you don't think Putin will try to demonize, while at the same time threatening financial collapse or nuclear winter?

I want these cats (from both parties) to face brutally tough, total bullshit questioning on a weekly basis.  Cause if they don't break a sweat and melt on weak shit like this, maybe they CAN hold their own against world leaders.

They can use their campaign stops for the cookie cutter answers and their networks for the softball interviews.  I want to see what Hilary, Trump, Cruz and others do when they're standing alone, against a HOSTILE party, with no one to lean on.

Maybe others prefer softball circle jerks. I want to see these candidates attacked, so they can bloody the fck out of the moderators.  I want to see who is tough.  Who will huck whine to, when he can't get a word in at the G8 summit?  Who will Trump bitch to when trade talks last more than the allotted 2 hours he agreed to?

Shit... let's see who is tough.  And I want to see Hilary and bernie grilled by Beck, Levin and Hannity too!

[240 is Back]

Exactly the kind of thing I would expect you to say.  What's funny is even the MSM saw how bad those moderators were and only the worst of the worst, like Huffington Post, had a headline that said "you can't handle the truth."  You have to be a real liberal hack to watch that debate and not see how incredibly biased it was. 

this is there the disconnect is - I KNOW THE MODERATORS WERE BIASED.

I KNOW they were rude little bitches.  And I'm okay with that.  I hope FOX treats the dems the same way!!!!  Well, if FOX actually had one, they're scared of fox like MSNBC scares repubs lol.

see, i WANT to hear rude Qs, insults, and acusations fired at these canddiates on BOTH sides.  You want softballs tossed so they can share their best stump speeches.

[Dos Equis]

Read the BOLD below.  I want hilary and bernie to be grilled exactly the SAME way by levin, hannity, etc. 

Seriously, you dont know if a canddiate is worth their salt until you see them sweat, til you see them hit with some tough Qs, til you see them get blindsided.   If a candidate is that frozen, befuddled, knocked back by a rude Q from a CNBC nobody... how will they react to "sir, we've just been attacked and we have 10 minutes to send $ or they do it again".   

Shit, yall are too soft on them.  I want brain scans, blood tests, urinalysis, and yes, rude questions, from a person we trust with our lives, economy, and the nuke football.  Ya know, DE, maybe if Hannity and Levin had asked obama tough Qs in 2008, he might have lost the election after coming unraveled?  OReilly had him on right before election and tossed softballs, I recall

Oh horse manure.  You do nothing but rag on Republicans on this board.  You don't care about fairness.  And having a debate with biased moderators is not some kind of test for how well a candidate will perform as president.  Ridiculous.

[Dos Equis]

this is there the disconnect is - I KNOW THE MODERATORS WERE BIASED.

I KNOW they were rude little bitches.  And I'm okay with that.  I hope FOX treats the dems the same way!!!!  Well, if FOX actually had one, they're scared of fox like MSNBC scares repubs lol.

see, i WANT to hear rude Qs, insults, and acusations fired at these canddiates on BOTH sides.  You want softballs tossed so they can share their best stump speeches.

   I want good, tough, fair questions, just like most people watching who are undecided.  But you liberal hacks love this stuff.  You are in the minority.   

[240 is Back]

  I want good, tough, fair questions, just like most people watching who are undecided.  But you liberal hacks love this stuff.  You are in the minority.   

fair?   LOL sorry, the world isn't fair.

I'd like to see Hilary to sit down, and face 90 minutes of questions from Hannity, beck, Palin, Oreilly, etc.  Just those 2 in a room, no audience.  Let them HAMMER her with birther Qs, with benghazi, etc.  Just hammer her.  Then, bernie goes in and has to explain socialism to this group

Same with the repubs - I want to see Maddow, mathews, etc, have 90 minutes to unravel carson's bullshit.

These canddiates have such well constructed public personas, and are very rarely challenged.  Debates typically just give them topics for their stump speeches.