was this cop right to shoot and kill this kid?(video)

[Papper]

He would be fired here. Grand jury would review the evidence and decide to indict or not. Family would sue city, city would settle out of court. Family would be both relieved they no longer have to deal with the guy, and that they now have vegas money.

He clearly put himself in harms way. You can't do that then claim he was trying to run you over. No argument it was a bad shoot. That he had his gun out was 100% acceptable given the circumstances, that he used it... not so much

But did he draw his gun because the kid was dealing with green?

[Agnostic007]

But did he draw his gun because the kid was dealing with green?

He drew his gun because he was making a stop on a known drug dealer which are known to carry weapons. You usually assume they are armed until you know for sure. Otherwise it's too late. He made a very bad decision to shoot, caught up in the moment, adrenaline dump going on. Had it been a practical..(a training exercise) I'm pretty sure he would have said "Oh Fuck!" immediately after shooting and have to repeat the drill. In real life, someone died. In that profession, you have to be able to make decisions quickly, and they need to be good decisions. When the decision results in the loss of life, you don't get a mulligan. I've been in that very situation on probably a dozen cases. The immediate impulse is to stop him but it should quickly be overridden by the realization you can't. He didn't get that override or didn't pay attention to it. I don't fault him too much for his perception that the guy was trying to run him over. I've seen it first hand where in that kind of situation you experience tunnel vision, and what you perceive to be happening isn't that accurate. He may not even realize he was moving along with the car. He may have thought he was standing still . The video shows his perception was off. Yes, sometimes officers lie, but sometimes their telling what they believe happened. Happens to victims the same way.     

[jon cole]

I'm a french cop, and shooting in this case = jail for me.

It's not a shoot case. The guy escape for a little felony, then he'll be catch later.

[jon cole]

To kill a kid just because he wanted to run from police? That cop would face lifetime jail in my country.

This.

[drmarkp]

another lying ass cop. he said the kid tried to run him over vs. him moving along the side of the car. 

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The cop was trigger happy..

[hench]

yea that sounds right, basically this cop decided on the death sentence, if the lad had pulled a gun this would be understandable.

I'm a french cop, and shooting in this case = jail for me.

It's not a shoot case. The guy escape for a little felony, then he'll be catch later.

[Agnostic007]

I'm a french cop, and shooting in this case = jail for me.

It's not a shoot case. The guy escape for a little felony, then he'll be catch later.

Wouldn't you just call some American military guys who are on vacation to handle it?

[C-BuZz]

I'm a french cop, and shooting in this case = jail for me.

It's not a shoot case. The guy escape for a little felony, then he'll be catch later.

The suspect was a known druggo.  What happened if he didn't get shot & the  proceeds to take out an innocent family on the sidewalk including mother & baby ?? The  cop would then get jailed for nit shooting.

Druggos gonna druggo.

[Agnostic007]

The suspect was a known druggo.  What happened if he didn't get shot & the  proceeds to take out an innocent family on the sidewalk including mother & baby ?? The  cop would then get jailed for nit shooting.

Druggos gonna druggo.

weeeelllll... that would certainly be tragic, but the cop, who would probably feel like he should have done something different, wouldn't be jailed for not shooting. 

[V Man]

These are the side effects of steroids. Make no mistake.

lol

[Irongrip400]

When did this happen? Not a peep because he's white I guess? Either way, it's not like he was going to write Beethovens 9th...

[illuminati]

I'm a french cop, and shooting in this case = jail for me.

It's not a shoot case. The guy escape for a little felony, then he'll be catch later.

Good Answer.
That would likely be the Logical thing to do.

I notice our resident cop answered in a supportive
& thoughtful manner.. Not.
 

[illuminati]

He would be fired here. Grand jury would review the evidence and decide to indict or not. Family would sue city, city would settle out of court. Family would be both relieved they no longer have to deal with the guy, and that they now have vegas money.

He clearly put himself in harms way. You can't do that then claim he was trying to run you over. No argument it was a bad shoot. That he had his gun out was 100% acceptable given the circumstances, that he used it... not so much

I can't give you too much Stick.
You did a Decent & Proper answer as well.
  👍

[Ropo]

WHATS wrong with trying to shoot out the tires?i know that seems Hollywood like but I mean that video is not too convincing on the policeman.

You mean like they do in the movies? And in your fantasy world cars drive only one direction? Or could it be that Police knows there is also the reverse gear, and shot the guy before he can use it to drive over him. You just never know because we wasn't there. And you approve that move, how the guy force police to move by driving car at him. This is totally ok to do? Please try it next time when they stop you in the traffic 

Guy is dead because he was too stupid to live, because there is always the option to do what the police orders. How this is so difficult to understand?   

[Conker]

Ridiculous decision making by the cop. Apparently the whole incident started because the driver's GF tried to text someone to set up a drug deal, got a digit wrong and the text ended up going to a state trooper's mobile phone. The cops played along with it and set up a meet. The deal was supposedly for 1 gram of coke.

The cops had the licence plate of the vehicle and could have no doubt easily picked the pair up later , instead he chose to shoot into a vehicle with a young driver and female passenger over a 1 gram of coke deal.

[Yamcha]

You can't trust the police. You can't trust the media. You can't trust politicians.
The schools, churches, economy, and society as a whole are eroding.
Morals no longer exist. Work ethic is rare. Cell phones hold more value than a human life.

God bless the USA.

Why should anyone feel the need to reproduce and bring a child into this horrid world.

[Irongrip400]

You can't trust the police. You can't trust the media. You can't trust politicians.
The schools, churches, economy, and society as a whole are eroding.
Morals no longer exist. Work ethic is rare. Cell phones hold more value than a human life.

God bless the USA.

Why should anyone feel the need to reproduce and bring a child into this horrid world.

Man, that's just messed up. If you're on the ledge right now, don't jump!

[MANGOOS]

LOL @ his report he feared he was about to be run over.

You're next to the car and the kid is going 7 mph.

So what? Police guy did everything right.

Maybe this teen was high and he couldnt let him get away because he could hurt innocent people. Its funny how libtards cry about situations like these, if you wont listen what police say then you get shot, there wont help no blacklivesmatter or whatever racist movement that will help.

People who support black lives matter are ignorant and this movement is racist.

[Agnostic007]

So what? Police guy did everything right.

Maybe this teen was high and he couldnt let him get away because he could hurt innocent people. Its funny how libtards cry about situations like these, if you wont listen what police say then you get shot, there wont help no blacklivesmatter or whatever racist movement that will help.

People who support black lives matter are ignorant and this movement is racist.

I'll field this question as if you were serious... just in case.

This is a society of rules and regulations. Cops are supposed to follow them, bad guys, not so much. There are clear are relatively clear rules set out on when an officer can use deadly force. None of the rules contain the wording "If the bad guy pisses you off or doesn't listen to you". It is about ending a threat to your life (Clearly the officer created the threat or any perceived threat) or another. In some cases that are limited you can shoot an escaping felon but there are criteria to that. That's pretty much it. That you think they may drive off and may run over someone down the road is not one of the valid rules. To suggest cops can shoot anyone for not listening is absurd. 

[Agnostic007]

I can't give you too much Stick.
You did a Decent & Proper answer as well.
  👍

Sometimes I miss the rabid, acidic old you, but not often   

[The Abdominal Snoman]

WHATS wrong with trying to shoot out the tires?i know that seems Hollywood like but I mean that video is not too convincing on the policeman.

Why not just drive his cop car right into the back of the kids car and push him forward into the woods 10 feet away? Would have had the kid blocked in so he couldn't run.

[Agnostic007]

Why not just drive his cop car right into the back of the kids car and push him forward into the woods 10 feet away? Would have had the kid blocked in so he couldn't run.

I'll answer this in case you were serious..

Because that would have been excessive force. The vehicle is a 3000 lb weapon and it also cost the taxpayers money. You really do need to give the opportunity to comply before moving to such a tactic. However... if he knew going in he was going to shoot him if he didn't stop, then hell yeah.. that would have been better I just don't think he knew until he pulled the trigger 

[The Abdominal Snoman]

I'll answer this in case you were serious..

Because that would have been excessive force. The vehicle is a 3000 lb weapon and it also cost the taxpayers money. You really do need to give the opportunity to comply before moving to such a tactic. However... if he knew going in he was going to shoot him if he didn't stop, then hell yeah.. that would have been better I just don't think he knew until he pulled the trigger 

Ya that makes sense. He'd have to run before doing something like that.

[dr.chimps]

Look, the only reason we're debating this shit is because cops used to get away with egregious civilian and criminal violations, and now it is being 'social media-ized.' White chick: 2 pages. Hebrewess: unlimited.

Agnostic comes on here and paints a left-of-right compromise and everyone nods and says 'hmm, reasonable.' Look, any PD officer of any standing has lied, corrupted or perjured themselves. That simple. Not gonna get a pension, otherwise. Serpicos are movie stuff. Anyone who says different is a liar.  

[Agnostic007]

Look, the only reason we're debating this shit is because cops used to get away with egregious civilian and criminal violations, and now it is being 'social media-ized.' White chick: 2 pages. Hebrewess: unlimited.

Agnostic comes on here and paints a left-of-right compromise and everyone nods and says 'hmm, reasonable.' Look, any PD officer of any standing has lied, corrupted or perjured themselves. That simple. Not gonna get a pension, otherwise. Serpicos are movie stuff. Anyone who says different is a liar.  

You may not be lying, but you are certainly inaccurate, oh, and if you disagree, you're an idiot (got to have that quantifier on there)