ISIS releases clip purportedly showing moment when Russian plane hit

[Las Vegas]

So what if ISIS goes the USA still needs a war against someone. There will just be a new Al Queda I mean ISIS 

That's why the crooks in government are carrying on in this manner.  If they lose the "scary enemy" then we can no longer pretend there's justification to be had in pummeling our own people.

The WoT turns out to be a coup on the civilized world.  That's what it is, and the weak people don't know what to do but play along!

Boy, WHAT COULD GO WRONG??

[Voice of Doom]

The give-a-way about who funds ISIS is in who they don't attack.  They don't attack Saudi Arabia, Turkey or Israel.  This is the most notorious Muslim terrorist group in the middle east who by their own admission want to turn the area into a 14th century caliphate.  They have moved the goal posts when it comes to horrific terrorist acts and enforcing strict Sharia law....YET they somehow haven't gotten around to threatening ISRAEL???  Hahaha...what a bunch of horseshit. 

And they couldn't be a better boogey man for the USA since the only areas they want to destabilize is the secular moderate Syrian and Iraqi governments that, coincidentally, we aren't happy with.

[muscularny]

The give-a-way about who funds ISIS is in who they don't attack.  They don't attack Saudi Arabia, Turkey or Israel.  This is the most notorious Muslim terrorist group in the middle east who by their own admission want to turn the area into a 14th century caliphate.  They have moved the goal posts when it comes to horrific terrorist acts and enforcing strict Sharia law....YET they somehow haven't gotten around to threatening ISRAEL???  Hahaha...what a bunch of horseshit. 

And they couldn't be a better boogey man for the USA since the only areas they want to destabilize is the secular moderate Syrian and Iraqi governments that, coincidentally, we aren't happy with.

You know nothing about Israel at all yet you and others blabber about things you have no clue about. Have ya seen what happened in the past two weeks there? Sure there where some attacks but within seconds the terrorists is killed. ISrael don't give a shit, they bombed the hell out of Hezbollah in Syria last night according to reports because of shipment of weapons to them. http://www.jewishpress.com/news/report-israel-attacked-assad-and-hezbollah-military-bases/2015/10/31/

ISIS hits Israel and Israel will carpet bomb every inch of the entire region, they do not fk around. Even in 68 when they had nothing they mopped the floor with a few countries at once, imagine now.

By the way, if you turn off alex schmones for a second and read real news you will see ISIS did attack the saudis.

Please take a deep breath and read up on some facts not on what you hear from celente and jones.

[Las Vegas]

You know nothing about Israel at all yet you and others blabber about things you have no clue about. Have ya seen what happened in the past two weeks there? Sure there where some attacks but within seconds the terrorists is killed. ISrael don't give a shit, they bombed the hell out of Hezbollah in Syria last night according to reports because of shipment of weapons to them. http://www.jewishpress.com/news/report-israel-attacked-assad-and-hezbollah-military-bases/2015/10/31/

ISIS hits Israel and Israel will carpet bomb every inch of the entire region, they do not fk around. Even in 68 when they had nothing they mopped the floor with a few countries at once, imagine now.

By the way, if you turn off alex schmones for a second and read real news you will see ISIS did attack the saudis.

Please take a deep breath and read up on some facts not on what you hear from celente and jones.

What's your explanation for why they don't come in bits and pieces onto American streets to attempt terror?

[musclecenter]

[Las Vegas]

The give-a-way about who funds ISIS is in who they don't attack.  They don't attack Saudi Arabia, Turkey or Israel.  This is the most notorious Muslim terrorist group in the middle east who by their own admission want to turn the area into a 14th century caliphate.  They have moved the goal posts when it comes to horrific terrorist acts and enforcing strict Sharia law....YET they somehow haven't gotten around to threatening ISRAEL???  Hahaha...what a bunch of horseshit. 

And they couldn't be a better boogey man for the USA since the only areas they want to destabilize is the secular moderate Syrian and Iraqi governments that, coincidentally, we aren't happy with.

None of this could stand without help from a very small and controlled media to sew it up nice and tight.  The "current state of affairs" which defies all logic couldn't exist without it.  The inferior thinkers use it as a replacement for their own God-given logic, and straight to the fire everything goes.

If even a hint of consolation could be found (it can't), it would be that people are allowing it to happen to themselves.  If not for their own weaknesses, it could not happen.

[muscularny]

What's your explanation for why they don't come in bits and pieces onto American streets to attempt terror?

Remember, it took them a while to commit that terror act a few weeks ago in turkey that killed almost 100 people, till then maybe really thought Turkey funds ISIS. The US has the best intel out there and they foiled plenty of attacks in the past few years, and hopefully they continue doing that. I am basing this based on real court cases not some on the toilet alex jones paranoia canned food bullshit.

[SOMEPARTS]

so when the us raided and killed isis members last week to rescue the kurds and in turn one of our troops died are you suggesting that really the ISIS we killed was also our troops?

Please stop the silly talk

FACEPALM

They are mercenaries even if they don't know it. Where the funding and weapons come from is out there if you look a bit.

[Las Vegas]

Remember, it took them a while to commit that terror act a few weeks ago in turkey that killed almost 100 people, till then maybe really thought Turkey funds ISIS. The US has the best intel out there and they foiled plenty of attacks in the past few years, and hopefully they continue doing that. I am basing this based on real court cases not some on the toilet alex jones paranoia canned food bullshit.

But any one of them could so easily put on an explosive backpack and get onto a commuter train, right?  And another could find something similar to do, the very next day.  They could commit home-invasions and simply shoot entire families.  There are endless ways that Americans could be "terrorized" that could NOT be detected before the fact.

So IF what we're told by television is true: HOW can it be explained??  How many years have the 'Islamic Extremists" been after us, now?  (according to the TV logic)

[Las Vegas]

I'll tell you that the fires of Hell will be fueled by these deceivers.

[muscularny]

But any one of them could so easily put on an explosive backpack and get onto a commuter train, right?  And another could find something similar to do, the very next day.  They could commit home-invasions and simply shoot entire families.  There are endless ways that Americans could be "terrorized" that could NOT be detected before the fact.

So IF what we're told by television is true: HOW can it be explained??  How many years have the 'Islamic Extremists" been after us, now?  (according to the TV logic)

Again, the fact that there was no attack on US soil does not mean that ISIS is a CIA invention. Stop the paranoia please.

[Las Vegas]

Again, the fact that there was no attack on US soil does not mean that ISIS is a CIA invention. Stop the paranoia please.

While we're on the subject, and when you say this:

The US has the best intel out there and they foiled plenty of attacks

How do you explain the lack of response to the mountain of pre-9/11 intelligence given to us from all over the world, including information to say the terrorists were currently in flight school on our own soil?  

Right there, in the flesh, ready to be tracked and grabbed before the terror could occur.  How do you explain these things?

[muscularny]

While we're on the subject, and when you say this:

How do you explain the lack of response to the mountain of pre-9/11 intelligence given to us from all over the world, including information to say the terrorists were currently in flight school on our own soil?  

Right there, in the flesh, ready to be tracked and grabbed before the terror could occur.  How do you explain these things?

The commission report is almost 600 pages and a good 50 deal with exactly what you just asked. Read it once you wash your system out of the Alex Jones garbage.

After the 93 bombing of the trade center the US simply let its guard down, it saw the terror group as more of a small time operator. Even the best intel agencies in the world after a while get too over confident. Look what happened to israel in 73, they where so confident after their win in 67 that they really did not care to strike first in 73 even with the Intel they had, they almost lost their country.

[tommywishbone]

Those isis pricks have no missiles with that capability. Way too advanced and too expensive.

[Las Vegas]

The commission report is almost 600 pages and a good 50 deal with exactly what you just asked.

For such a simple question, too.  How about that.

Read it once you wash your system out of the Alex Jones garbage.

I've never even heard a single word he's said.

After the 93 bombing of the trade center the US simply let its guard down, it saw the terror group as more of a small time operator. Even the best intel agencies in the world after a while get too over confident. Look what happened to israel in 73, they where so confident after their win in 67 that they really did not care to strike first in 73 even with the Intel they had, they almost lost their country.

They let WHOSE guard down?  Can you even begin to explain how the lapse could conceivably take place, knowing the information was received?

[Tha Grim Lifter]

The amount of ridiculous things I have read in media reports about ISIS just show how made up most of it is. They throw enough ridiculous crap and most people are sheep and believe everything they read and sprout off media 'facts' to sound intelligent.

The US needs a war to justify many things including funding but also control of the population. It all comes down to people in government helping out their mates in defence contracts so they have to keep things going. Russia, Iraq, Al Queda, Iraq, Syria, ISIS. If the Russians solve these problems the USA will have no-one to fight - ie. give contracts to, make out they're the good guys

[Thespritz0]

Those isis pricks have no missiles with that capability. Way too advanced and too expensive.

^^
Are you sure of that?? SA-18's go up to 3.5KM or 11,000 feet & they DO have these bought from China...
P.S.  When I was in the Army, the "Stinger" was the big thing now the capabilities are much improved!! P.S.  The video is just from this week!!!

[muscularny]

For such a simple question, too.  How about that.

I've never even heard a single word he's said.

They let WHOSE guard down?  Can you even begin to explain how the lapse could conceivably take place, knowing the information was received?

arguing with someone that had their brain infected by the likes of alex jones is as silly as arguing with a religious freak, get well soon!

[Irongrip400]

BBC has an update on their website where the Russians say terrorism couldn't be ruled out, that it had to be "external circumstances" that caused the plane to crash. I wonder who's responsible for giving Isis the weaponry to hit a plane at 30,000 feet whereas before they had nothing like that.

[Simple Simon]

The amount of ridiculous things I have read in media reports about ISIS just show how made up most of it is. They throw enough ridiculous crap and most people are sheep and believe everything they read and sprout off media 'facts' to sound intelligent.

The US needs a war to justify many things including funding but also control of the population. It all comes down to people in government helping out their mates in defence contracts so they have to keep things going. Russia, Iraq, Al Queda, Iraq, Syria, ISIS. If the Russians solve these problems the USA will have no-one to fight - ie. give contracts to, make out they're the good guys

You have described a conspiracy nut and established you are one in the same post.

Nice work sir.

[Simple Simon]

If it was a mechanical fault they have to ground all planes until an investigation is completed.
If a terrorist blows it up its business as usual.

[liberty]

Jet was cruising at 30,000 ft. Bomb theories now...
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ba8_1446487756

[gmflex]

Don't fuck with Russia..
If it's true ... putin will put the hurt to ISIS..
Putin doesn't need permission like Obama ..
Congress or the Senate doesn't exist in Russia..