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Re: Do you LOL at "overtraining?"
« Reply #50 on: November 13, 2015, 02:44:58 PM »
I only train 3 days a week now. I feel much better but I still notice myself getting burned out. My neck gets sore, my lower back, I start breaking down. It's good to take some time off when this happens.

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Re: Do you LOL at "overtraining?"
« Reply #51 on: November 13, 2015, 02:46:01 PM »
not watching video. But, over training is real.
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Re: Do you LOL at "overtraining?"
« Reply #52 on: November 13, 2015, 02:49:12 PM »
There are days when I can train harder and on those days, I do.  Other days, I train as hard as I can given how I feel but when it comes down to it, each session is its own.  I train as hard as I can given how I am feeling. 

In the past have trained so hard using H.I.T. that I am sore for well over a week and thereby unwilling to go back into the garage/gym to train again until I feel up to it.

I can no longer do that.  I am nearing 60 and need to take more recovery time and while that bothers my ego, I think it is what is needed for me to continue to work on my goal of being as well built and fit as I can be.  I warm up more than ever and I need to.  For example for shoulders I do several warm up sets of DB side laterals prior to shoulder presses on a (dammit!  ;D) machine.  Machines are not my favorite but they allow me to train with less pain on such movements as shoulder presses, bent over rows and incline and flat bench presses.

Currently I train between 2 and 4 times a week for between 30 minutes to an hour. I don't want to spend my life in a gym but I still put in the time so that I won't waste my life in a hospital. 

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Re: Do you LOL at "overtraining?"
« Reply #53 on: November 13, 2015, 03:10:02 PM »
At my age, i cant do 5 days in a row anymore! Physically just cant do it!

Same here, especially as a natty.  3-4x/wk is perfect.

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Re: Do you LOL at "overtraining?"
« Reply #54 on: November 13, 2015, 05:17:47 PM »
Serious girls on here. Train 6 days a week pm, cardio  am. Deep tissue massages every 3-4 weeks on day off.

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Re: Do you LOL at "overtraining?"
« Reply #55 on: November 13, 2015, 08:05:18 PM »
Serious girls on here. Train 6 days a week pm, cardio  am. Deep tissue massages every 3-4 weeks on day off.

::) ::) ::) ::)

caffeine, ephedrine, steroids, and a monstrous 6 mph treadmill sessions with some shakeweight afterwards

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Re: Do you LOL at "overtraining?"
« Reply #56 on: November 14, 2015, 01:53:52 AM »
Yeahhh...of course overtraining is all a con....I mean you can end up with a 21 inch arm doing 5 years worth of training entirely squeezed into 3 months of all-day long training , right? ::) ...there are some fucking morons on here

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Re: Do you LOL at "overtraining?"
« Reply #57 on: November 14, 2015, 05:32:32 AM »
::) ::) ::) ::)

caffeine, ephedrine, steroids, and a monstrous 6 mph treadmill sessions with some shakeweight afterwards

You're the girl whining about training. Stick to eating pop tarts princess

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Re: Do you LOL at "overtraining?"
« Reply #58 on: November 14, 2015, 05:45:22 AM »
I only train 3 days a week now. I feel much better but I still notice myself getting burned out. My neck gets sore, my lower back, I start breaking down. It's good to take some time off when this happens.

I jacked something up in my neck a few months ago. It took a while, but it finally manifest in some shoulder misuse and right biceps weakness. I have really dialed it back and am doing a lot more stretching, rolling and other mobility stuff, especially for my neck and traps. The strength is coming back (thank god) and as a side benefit, I have so much more range of motion in my shoulder than I have in years (decades?). It will probably be another month before I try to get back to my heavier weights. I really have trouble checking my ego at the door, even at my supposedly mature age  :-\

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Re: Do you LOL at "overtraining?"
« Reply #59 on: November 14, 2015, 05:52:52 AM »
I jacked something up in my neck a few months ago. It took a while, but it finally manifest in some shoulder misuse and right biceps weakness. I have really dialed it back and am doing a lot more stretching, rolling and other mobility stuff, especially for my neck and traps. The strength is coming back (thank god) and as a side benefit, I have so much more range of motion in my shoulder than I have in years (decades?). It will probably be another month before I try to get back to my heavier weights. I really have trouble checking my ego at the door, even at my supposedly mature age  :-\
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Had the same thing with my constant neck problems.............pai n on left side,and can`t even grip a 45 pound dumbell tightly.

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Re: Do you LOL at "overtraining?"
« Reply #60 on: November 14, 2015, 06:12:16 AM »
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Had the same thing with my constant neck problems.............pai n on left side,and can`t even grip a 45 pound dumbell tightly.

Ulnar Nerve Stretch of Peace.

It can also be done with the fingers facing upward.



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Re: Do you LOL at "overtraining?"
« Reply #61 on: November 14, 2015, 06:34:09 AM »
Ulnar Nerve Stretch of Peace.

It can also be done with the fingers facing upward.




Is it a static stretch, or is there a movement? I've become really into this mobility shit. I may even try yoga (yes homo)

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Re: Do you LOL at "overtraining?"
« Reply #62 on: November 14, 2015, 07:09:04 AM »
Is it a static stretch, or is there a movement? I've become really into this mobility shit. I may even try yoga (yes homo)

Static. I find it helps if you turn your head away from the arm being stretched. You want concentrate on the ring finger and pinkie. That's where the nerve runs through.


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Re: Do you LOL at "overtraining?"
« Reply #63 on: November 14, 2015, 07:14:03 AM »
Static. I find it helps if you turn your head away from the arm being stretched. You want concentrate on the ring finger and pinkie. That's where the nerve runs through.

Thanks for your info here, gonna try this as well. My left ulnar nerve is weak and all left side muscles are affected by this. Also very neck injury proned as well, one false movement, I can be moving with restriction for days.

I doubt I will be able to put my arm up very high at first. Can you tell me the ideal time for static hold? I'll try 10 seconds and see if it does not destroy my shoulder.
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Re: Do you LOL at "overtraining?"
« Reply #64 on: November 14, 2015, 07:16:32 AM »
All the people I know who called themselves hardcore and didn't take breaks can barely move these days. Overtraining is real. I think people should take breaks for 1-2 weeks every 12-16 weeks except if they are post contest and then I think 6 week post contest you should take an active rest. No weights. No real diet. Just let your entire Cns and digestive system recover

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Re: Do you LOL at "overtraining?"
« Reply #65 on: November 14, 2015, 07:19:27 AM »
Thanks for your info here, gonna try this as well. My left ulnar nerve is weak and all left side muscles are affected by this. Also very neck injury proned as well, one false movement, I can be moving with restriction for days.

I doubt I will be able to put my arm up very high at first. Can you tell me the ideal time for static hold? I'll try 10 seconds and see if it does not destroy my shoulder.

Just ease into it. Start with 5 seconds, and work from there. It's more of a "feel" thing.

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Re: Do you LOL at "overtraining?"
« Reply #66 on: November 14, 2015, 07:21:24 AM »
All the people I know who called themselves hardcore and didn't take breaks can barely move these days. Overtraining is real. I think people should take breaks for 1-2 weeks every 12-16 weeks except if they are post contest and then I think 6 week post contest you should take an active rest. No weights. No real diet. Just let your entire Cns and digestive system recover


I had worked in a 2 week rest deload every 12 weeks into my program and a routinely blew past it, not wanting risk my "gainz"  ::)

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Re: Do you LOL at "overtraining?"
« Reply #67 on: November 14, 2015, 07:49:26 AM »
Ulnar Nerve Stretch of Peace.

It can also be done with the fingers facing upward.




Do these a lot after stumbling on some free physio advice on youtube...simple but effective

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Re: Do you LOL at "overtraining?"
« Reply #68 on: November 14, 2015, 08:15:10 AM »
well do an experiment. for say, biceps.

try training the muscle every day for 5 weeks and see how little or zero progress you make

try hitting it hard every 5 Days for 5 weeks and see how much better gains you will make.

besides.. kind of loser wants to spend 4 hours per day in the gym like you would have to with that kind of training....

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Re: Do you LOL at "overtraining?"
« Reply #69 on: November 14, 2015, 09:08:18 AM »
Thanks TL.....I`ll give it a shot!!  :)

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Re: Do you LOL at "overtraining?"
« Reply #70 on: November 14, 2015, 09:25:22 AM »
Just ease into it. Start with 5 seconds, and work from there. It's more of a "feel" thing.

It hurts. Will keep trying.

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Re: Do you LOL at "overtraining?"
« Reply #71 on: November 14, 2015, 09:59:31 AM »
It hurts. Will keep trying.


It should be the "good" pain. If it's injury pain, back off.

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Re: Do you LOL at "overtraining?"
« Reply #72 on: November 14, 2015, 10:07:35 AM »

It should be the "good" pain. If it's injury pain, back off.

It's the good kind. My nerve impingement is presenting like a C5/C6 neck impingement. Will this help that?

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Re: Do you LOL at "overtraining?"
« Reply #73 on: November 14, 2015, 11:42:48 AM »
It's the good kind. My nerve impingement is presenting like a C5/C6 neck impingement. Will this help that?

That one is a bit above my grade. You might want to check a specialist's site. Sometimes they have a q&a section.

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Re: Do you LOL at "overtraining?"
« Reply #74 on: November 14, 2015, 12:34:41 PM »
Just ease into it. Start with 5 seconds, and work from there. It's more of a "feel" thing.

I gave it a shot, not so bad. Did 10 seconds no problem.
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