Bernie Sanders just solved the terrorism problem.

[El Diablo Blanco]

Maybe, just maybe the reason why it exists is because of the USA's involvement in the middle east.  might as well blame the weather to deflect the responsibility

[Frank Reynolds]

but you'll notice it's not just the navy...

did google, apple, facebook, GM and 75 other major corporations suddenly get snafued by this left-wing hoax?

how does that work?

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/mairead-mcardle/81-companies-including-google-coca-cola-apple-join-obamas-fight-against

(notice the source is a hard core right-wing magazine  )

You taking the piss?

[mr.turbo]

You taking the piss?

I'm actually curious to understand the reasoning and thought behind this hoax theory

[Coach is Back!]

So just to make it clear. You idiots really think "global warming" is causing terrorism? A simple yes or no would suffice.

[Set It Up]

So just to make it clear. You idiots really think "global warming" is causing terrorism? A simple yes or no would suffice.

I'd probably completely lay off you if you simply cut the bullshit religion facade you show. What religion backs a person being loudmouthed and arrogant and calling people names? And divorce, and vain and chasing monetary things,......and holy fuck this list could go on forever. You essentially prove what a hoax religion is.  I see nignog is in camp, whos busting his face open next? Probably another fat white man, seems to be commonplace with him

[drkaje]

So just to make it clear. You idiots really think "global warming" is causing terrorism? A simple yes or no would suffice.

Causing? No.

A contributing factor? Yes.

Religious fundamentalism is a bigger factor.

[mr.turbo]

So just to make it clear. You idiots really think "global warming" is causing terrorism? A simple yes or no would suffice.

personally I don't have an opinion...I'm not a scientist or military expert  

on behalf of the CIA, NAVY, and the other 98 expert military sources cited the answer is "yes".

if you have better information I suggest you forward it to the CIA and the Pentagon before things get out of hand!

[OlympiaGym]

The military is a socialist program

This is very true. True American patriots have never supported a large standing army. It's one of the reasons the Revolution was fought.

[liberalismo]

I know the first thing I thought of when Jihadi John was lopping off someone's head was "climate change" or "Global warming" or whatever they want to label it this month and if they only had some rain this wouldn't happen..lol.

You didn't. Because you can only see an immediate cause.

[pellius]

So just to make it clear. You idiots really think "global warming" is causing terrorism? A simple yes or no would suffice.

I would say that when people are uncomfortable and unhappy, be it from hunger, oppression, poverty, over crowding, traffic, heat... they are more prone to act out on their anger and frustration. Hell, when my a/c went out in my truck and I was stuck in traffic I felt myself turning into a monster. So I guess if someone is on the cusp of whether or not to take the terrorist route when other options are limited -- it's not a stretch. But in this specific case there are other areas in the world that are just as hot if not hotter and also career options are limited and they don't turn to terrorism. I'm also guessing that they aren't Muslim either.

Going by what we see happening in real life it seems that being a Muslim has far more influence in being a terrorist than the weather.
But let's say, just for the sake of argument, that global warning does play a major role in terrorism. What are we suppose to do about it? America does far more than any major industrialize country in protecting the environment. We have cleaner air, cleaner water, better plumbing, more sophisticated refuse disposal, food production and more regulations than ever before. Every facet of environmental protection has improved.  I'm old enough to remember how cities such a Pittsburgh and LA use to be. Look to countries like China and Russia if you want to talk about global warming. 

We're not squeaky clean but the U.S. is not the major contributor to what is considered the man made causes for global warming And though a majority of scientist believe that there is global warning, not all, not the majority, believe that it's man made. Of course, as Coach mentioned, you can find studies on both sides. My point is that there is no consensus.

"There is no consensus. The Petition Project features over 31,000 scientists signing the petition stating 'There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide will, in the forseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth's atmosphere ...'". (Petition Project)

http://www.petitionproject.org/
http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/sean-long/2014/11/20/only-50-scientists-blame-mankind-climate-change-new-study
 

[pellius]

As an addendum, it might be worth mentioning that very cold weather has been shown to reduce the incidence of violent crime. I guess that makes sense. More people stay indoors and try to stay warm.

[240 is Back]

So just to make it clear. You idiots really think "global warming" is causing terrorism? A simple yes or no would suffice.

It's very clear that if the temperature is 110 degrees and nothing grows, there will be more people recruited into that world than if it is 72 degrees with beautiful crops growing everywhere.

Now, did mankind cause the temp to go up?  Oh shit no, I don't believe that.

But yes, if at least 1 person leaves the crops and ends up a terrorist because his farm failed and that was option #2, then YES, warmer temperatures did contribute.

There's a big gap there when you connect A with C.   
A = man causing it.
B = higher temps causing crops to fail
C = more terror recruits

B = C is common sense.  A leading to B, no.

[pellius]

It's very clear that if the temperature is 110 degrees and nothing grows, there will be more people recruited into that world than if it is 72 degrees with beautiful crops growing everywhere.

Now, did mankind cause the temp to go up?  Oh shit no, I don't believe that.

But yes, if at least 1 person leaves the crops and ends up a terrorist because his farm failed and that was option #2, then YES, warmer temperatures did contribute.

There's a big gap there when you connect A with C.   
A = man causing it.
B = higher temps causing crops to fail
C = more terror recruits

B = C is common sense.  A leading to B, no.

But how much does hot weather contribute to someone being a terrorist? There are parts in Africa where it's barren and blistering hot but that doesn't cause them to become terrorists. I think being a Muslim is a far, far, far greater factor in becoming a terrorist than the weather. And besides, it's a moot point because there's not much we can do about the weather in the Middle East. There's something we can do about radical Muslims. Just like there was something we could do about Fascism, Nazism, Communism...

Israel was once a barren hot desert. Gaza was a beautiful place -- until Israel surrendered the territory. 

[240 is Back]

But how much does hot weather contribute to someone being a terrorist?

That isn't what I'm debating with Coach.   

If ONE person decides to give up farming and move to a new area where terrorism/crime is the only option, then yes, the weather contributed.

I worry Coach has everything either black and white - either we have to believe everything Bernie Sanders says, or we have to believe weather has no bearing. 

I live in Florida.  When weather gets shit hot every summer, crime goes up.  People are pissy, there's way less work, bills are all high thanks to skyrocketing electric bill.  Service industry tanks.  House robberies and gang shootings go up. 

I can imagine shit's a lot hotter, nastier, and messier on the other side of the world.  Dude might stay home and bitch about the USA at 95 degrees with no AC.  At 99 degrees, maybe that is a catalyst for a dude to just say screw it and join up.

http://www.medicaldaily.com/some-it-hot-summer-crime-increase-linked-higher-temperatures-better-weather-288944

[pellius]

That isn't what I'm debating with Coach.   

If ONE person decides to give up farming and move to a new area where terrorism/crime is the only option, then yes, the weather contributed.

I worry Coach has everything either black and white - either we have to believe everything Bernie Sanders says, or we have to believe weather has no bearing. 

I live in Florida.  When weather gets shit hot every summer, crime goes up.  People are pissy, there's way less work, bills are all high thanks to skyrocketing electric bill.  Service industry tanks.  House robberies and gang shootings go up. 

I can imagine shit's a lot hotter, nastier, and messier on the other side of the world.  Dude might stay home and bitch about the USA at 95 degrees with no AC.  At 99 degrees, maybe that is a catalyst for a dude to just say screw it and join up.

http://www.medicaldaily.com/some-it-hot-summer-crime-increase-linked-higher-temperatures-better-weather-288944

Point taken. But it's a pointless argument because, again, there's nothing we can do about the weather in the Middle East. And though it may contribute to terrorism it's role is negligible when compared to the fact that they are Muslims. Virtually every war going on in the world today involves Muslims. Muslims throughout history has always been aggressive and war like. I believe there is something inherent in the religion itself that promotes this aggression. Although the vast majority of Muslims are not involved in terrorism and war it does seem that a huge percentage do believe in those tenets of Islam though often they keep those beliefs private.
You certainly don't see them out protesting the massacres and beheadings and few, if any, leading Muslim clerics denounce this behavior.

Rain or drought, there will still be Muslim terrorist unless we destroy them and their infrastructure like we did with every other totalitarian regime in the past.

[Yamcha]

Correlation does not imply causation...

[Thin Lizzy]

The Muslims have been invading or fighting within their ranks for the last 1000 years. Why does the west have to always find some absurd excuse?

Because they don't have the emotional maturity to accept reality. You have to understand that most of this crap comes from people who depend on support from the liberal arts departments of universities, and/or governments.

While most of us graduate college and move on to the real world. Your typical liberal arts college professor spends his life giving boring lectures to 18-21 year olds and writing worthless book reports that they call "Research Papers." So, these people never really grow up. Just ask yourself what a liberal arts college Professor would do for a living if he were thrust into the real world.

There's your mental disorder. It's not lack of intelligence. It's emotional immaturity. That why it's pointless to argue with these people. It's like arguing with a six year old.

[mr.turbo]

Because they don't have the emotional maturity to accept reality. You have to understand that most of this crap comes from people who depend on support from the liberal arts departments of universities, and/or governments.

While most of us graduate college and move on to the real world. Your typical liberal arts college professor spends his life giving boring lectures to 18-21 year olds and writing worthless book reports that they call "Research Papers." So, these people never really grow up. Just ask yourself what a liberal arts college Professor would do for a living if he were thrust into the real world.

There's your mental disorder. It's not lack of intelligence. It's emotional immaturity. That why it's pointless to argue with these people. It's like arguing with a six year old.

hey where do you come up with this material? do you believe it?

serious question

[mr.turbo]

let me know when you guys are done discussing and I'll explain the situation

I'm here to help

 

[drkaje]

Correlation does not imply causation...

Sometimes it does.

[Coach is Back!]

That isn't what I'm debating with Coach.   

If ONE person decides to give up farming and move to a new area where terrorism/crime is the only option, then yes, the weather contributed.

I worry Coach has everything either black and white - either we have to believe everything Bernie Sanders says, or we have to believe weather has no bearing. 

I live in Florida.  When weather gets shit hot every summer, crime goes up.  People are pissy, there's way less work, bills are all high thanks to skyrocketing electric bill.  Service industry tanks.  House robberies and gang shootings go up. 

I can imagine shit's a lot hotter, nastier, and messier on the other side of the world.  Dude might stay home and bitch about the USA at 95 degrees with no AC.  At 99 degrees, maybe that is a catalyst for a dude to just say screw it and join up.

http://www.medicaldaily.com/some-it-hot-summer-crime-increase-linked-higher-temperatures-better-weather-288944

So you're equating local crimes to world wide terrorism? It's in the 50's in Paris right now. What's the excuse?

[240 is Back]

So you're equating local crimes to world wide terrorism? It's in the 50's in Paris right now. What's the excuse?

The people doing the things in Paris are from elsewhere. 

People are people.   Shit weather doesn't help with options or decision making.

I'm all for refusing all refugees and bombing away.  But like our military, I recognize bad weather does mean more bad guys.  Recognizing it is not the same as justifying it.  Cut the victimization out, it's just another tool our military uses to prepare resources.  not everything is a Bernie endorsement.

[Coach is Back!]

The people doing the things in Paris are from elsewhere. 

People are people.   Shit weather doesn't help with options or decision making.

I'm all for refusing all refugees and bombing away.  But like our military, I recognize bad weather does mean more bad guys.  Recognizing it is not the same as justifying it.  Cut the victimization out, it's just another tool our military uses to prepare resources.  not everything is a Bernie endorsement.

There is a big Muslim population in France. Are you trying to tell me that converts are ALL from the middle east?

[240 is Back]

There is a big Muslim population in France. Are you trying to tell me that converts are ALL from the middle east?

that's quite a leap.  i'm saying manmade global warming is BS, but that (just like our military) I agree that shit weather means easier recruitment for bad guys.

Seriously, I'm more conservative on global warming than repubs like Newt and Palin... and yes, hostile weather leads to more hostile people with fewer options.  I don't have to prove I'm right here... our military already agrees.

so coach, you've had a chance to see trump embarrass the GOP and Carson embarrass himself nonstop... who is your 2016 choice for republican nomination?

[Coach is Back!]

that's quite a leap.  i'm saying manmade global warming is BS, but that (just like our military) I agree that shit weather means easier recruitment for bad guys.

Seriously, I'm more conservative on global warming than repubs like Newt and Palin... and yes, hostile weather leads to more hostile people with fewer options.  I don't have to prove I'm right here... our military already agrees.

so coach, you've had a chance to see trump embarrass the GOP and Carson embarrass himself nonstop... who is your 2016 choice for republican nomination?

No, I'm in by 6am and usually out by 9pm. But I couldn't imagine it's any worse than what Obama has done in the past seven year and certainly not more than what Killary did on Sunday. BTW, it was brilliant timing to have the debate on Saturday right in the middle of a college football day into the Ohio St. game. More great planning and impeccable timing by the left.