Donald Trump run off stage in NC by Black Lives Matters

[shootfighter1]

Pellius, agree.  Cruz is probably the smartest and best of the bunch.  I think Rubio has a lot of potential but his tax plan sucks and his work on the gang of 8 will not go over well with conservatives.

[240 is Back]

They dumped her on McCain because his poll numbers were shit. Needed to gamble for a Hail Mary-type boost, which paid off for all of ONE appearance/debate, I forget.

Imagine Trump's people are gonna let him know here pretty soon she'll sink his campaign if he doesn't distance  himself quick. Hell, she only connects with the already-decided halfwit rurals, anyway, but Trump's already got them locked down, so NOTHING good comes from this.

Mccain actually led obama RIGHT BEFORE he chose Palin.  He had some momentum going.   It was July/Aug, he did pass obama a few times.  From sept 15th on (as the palin pick had 2 weeks to sink in and affect polling), he dropped and nevre return.

[Nails]

[El Diablo Blanco]

Mccain actually led obama RIGHT BEFORE he chose Palin.  He had some momentum going.   It was July/Aug, he did pass obama a few times.  From sept 15th on (as the palin pick had 2 weeks to sink in and affect polling), he dropped and nevre return.

Yep.  It was his questionable pick for Palin that sunk his campaign.  If he picked a black running mate he would have slaughtered Obama in the general election.  Obama won because he dominated the non-white votes which now are the majority in the USA

[TuHolmes]

Excellent.

[shootfighter1]

Funny

[pellius]

God help us if it's Sanders vs. Trump.  It's either take away all earnings and give it to the poor or take away all earnings and give it to the Super rich.  America is fucked

Didn't I tell you to STFU earlier in this thread. You're a retard. You know shit about politics, how this country works, how laws are made.

I know you don't have a clue why we have an electoral college or even what it is.

"Take away earnings and give it to the Super Rich" oh, fucking brother.

Why don't you tell us how that will work?

[The Ugly]

I watch Fox. I'm watching Fox right now. I don't and didn't see any laughing through their critiques. And, notwithstanding your two friend's text, any of the candidates would welcome her endorsement whether they like her our not. Again, the issue is not what you or I think of her, it's the fact that she has a huge following. I'm sure Ted Cruz, who I am supporting, would have appreciated her endorsement considering he believed he would not have been a Senator today if it wasn't for her.

And you don't get to be a Governor, a V.P. candidate, a millionaire by being a dummy.

But it's no big issue to me. Underestimating an opponent is a classic and most common mistake. Though I'm a Cruz supporter, it would be interesting and really shake things up in this world if Trump became the President. How he would stack up against leaders from Russia, China, Iran and other seasoned, no nonsense world leaders. It certainly can't be any worse than Obama.

 

I like Cruz too, mostly. Certainly admire his strength and character, and I imagine we wouldn't be watching some wannabe big league sandcrabs capturing American sailors under a Cruz presidency (much less having to hear our leaders thank these punks afterward for their wonderful hospitality).

Trump's a little too unpredictable and impulsive for my taste, but yeah, if we're just talking R vs. D, that's an unfortunate no-brainer for me. The last sensible Democratic brain ended up on the trunk of a Lincoln in Dallas (fifty-plus years now, c'mon).

And, dude, America is filled with millionaire dummies. NBA/NFL, ever watch some of these post-game interviews? Ever hear "Money" Mayweather try to read a thirty-second radio spot? Familiar with the Kardashians?

I realize your point was mainly the governor thing. But it's Alaska, friend, practically Russia (I've heard). When the state's entire electorate is 83 igloo-dwelling Inuits - all offended by "Eskimo" - you promise 'em some free parkas and new pair of mittens, and then accuse your opponent of using the E-word in private.

Who they gonna believe? The smokin' hot giftgiver, or the Grizzly Adams-looking "racist" snowplow operator/aspiring politician, who may or may not have reeked of weed and bourbon? C'mon, that don't take smarts, guy.

(My shit's getting way too wordy here lately, by the way. I'd scroll right past my blowhard nonsense if I were me.)

[El Diablo Blanco]

Didn't I tell you to STFU earlier in this thread. You're a retard. You know shit about politics, how this country works, how laws are made.

I know you don't have a clue why we have an electoral college or even what it is.

"Take away earnings and give it to the Super Rick" oh, fucking brother.

Why don't you tell us how that will work?

[pellius]

Mccain actually led obama RIGHT BEFORE he chose Palin.  He had some momentum going.   It was July/Aug, he did pass obama a few times.  From sept 15th on (as the palin pick had 2 weeks to sink in and affect polling), he dropped and nevre return.

What? Where do you get this? It wasn't that long ago. We were there. Remember? Palin invigorated McCain's campaign. It was all the buzz. Even here of GetBig. It pushed him ahead of Obama.

"At the time of the choice (this was before the economic crisis, not after; though we were in recession at the time), there was a perception that the campaign was on a slow walk toward defeat, and needed something different to shake up the dynamic of the race."

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/26604717/ns/politics-decision_08/t/mccain-moves-ahead-obama-new-poll/

[pellius]

BTW, notice the bump in the polls in Trump's favor after the Palin endorsement.

[pellius]

Yep.  It was his questionable pick for Palin that sunk his campaign.  If he picked a black running mate he would have slaughtered Obama in the general election.  Obama won because he dominated the non-white votes which now are the majority in the USA

Non White vote is now the majority? Since when? True it's gone down in the last 30 years from 85% to 74% but last time I checked 74% is still the majority.

We're do you get this stuff?

Explain to me again how Trump will take more of our "earnings" and give it to the "super rich".

Tell me again how Cruz is a terrible debater because of his "droning" voice.

[pellius]

I like Cruz too, mostly. Certainly admire his strength and character, and I imagine we wouldn't be watching some wannabe big league sandcrabs capturing American sailors under a Cruz presidency (much less having to hear our leaders thank these punks afterward for their wonderful hospitality).

Trump's a little too unpredictable and impulsive for my taste, but yeah, if we're just talking R vs. D, that's an unfortunate no-brainer for me. The last sensible Democratic brain ended up on the trunk of a Lincoln in Dallas (fifty-plus years now, c'mon).

And, dude, America is filled with millionaire dummies. NBA/NFL, ever watch some of these post-game interviews? Ever hear "Money" Mayweather try to read a thirty-second radio spot? Familiar with the Kardashians?

I realize your point was mainly the governor thing. But it's Alaska, friend, practically Russia (I've heard). When the state's entire electorate is 83 igloo-dwelling Inuits - all offended by "Eskimo" - you promise 'em some free parkas and new pair of mittens, and then accuse your opponent of using the E-word in private.

Who they gonna believe? The smokin' hot giftgiver, or the Grizzly Adams-looking "racist" snowplow operator/aspiring politician, who may or may not have reeked of weed and bourbon? C'mon, that don't take smarts, guy.

(My shit's getting way too wordy here lately, by the way. I'd scroll right past my blowhard nonsense if I were me.)

Palin, despite some creeping frumpiness, is still doable.

That counts for something. 

[polychronopolous]

I like Cruz too, mostly. Certainly admire his strength and character, and I imagine we wouldn't be watching some wannabe big league sandcrabs capturing American sailors under a Cruz presidency (much less having to hear our leaders thank these punks afterward for their wonderful hospitality).

Trump's a little too unpredictable and impulsive for my taste, but yeah, if we're just talking R vs. D, that's an unfortunate no-brainer for me. The last sensible Democratic brain ended up on the trunk of a Lincoln in Dallas (fifty-plus years now, c'mon).

And, dude, America is filled with millionaire dummies. NBA/NFL, ever watch some of these post-game interviews? Ever hear "Money" Mayweather try to read a thirty-second radio spot? Familiar with the Kardashians?

I realize your point was mainly the governor thing. But it's Alaska, friend, practically Russia (I've heard). When the state's entire electorate is 83 igloo-dwelling Inuits - all offended by "Eskimo" - you promise 'em some free parkas and new pair of mittens, and then accuse your opponent of using the E-word in private.

Who they gonna believe? The smokin' hot giftgiver, or the Grizzly Adams-looking "racist" snowplow operator/aspiring politician, who may or may not have reeked of weed and bourbon? C'mon, that don't take smarts, guy.

(My shit's getting way too wordy here lately, by the way. I'd scroll right past my blowhard nonsense if I were me.)

Ain't that the truth.

[shootfighter1]

I don't find myself defending Donald Trump much in debates but to say he is going to take our money and give it to the super rich is incorrect and unfounded, completely.  He actually talked about taxing hedge fund managers and wall street folks more.  Trump's tax plan would exempt people making under 40 or 50k salary from any federal taxation.  So, the truth is he would benefit the poor and lower middle class as far as federal taxation.  He would trim all federal tax rates but still has a progressive tax system.  His plan is infinitely better than Sanders (fucking lunatic socialist that yells constantly) and Clinton.
I'd favor Rubio if he altered his federal tax plan and decreased his 35% federal rate which hits some of the middle class....hard to get past that for me as a working professional mid career but he has the demeanor to be president and would likely bring people together more than others.

[240 is Back]

What? Where do you get this? It wasn't that long ago. We were there. Remember? Palin invigorated McCain's campaign. It was all the buzz. Even here of GetBig. It pushed him ahead of Obama.

"At the time of the choice (this was before the economic crisis, not after; though we were in recession at the time), there was a perception that the campaign was on a slow walk toward defeat, and needed something different to shake up the dynamic of the race."

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/26604717/ns/politics-decision_08/t/mccain-moves-ahead-obama-new-poll/

I'll bump it on the political board.  It was shocking to myself as well, mccain did lead obama during the summer for a bit.

[Howard]

Bernie Sanders.  Best candidate by far and best in a long, long time.

I can't support him, but, at least he's authentic.

Right now, I'm voting for Rubio in the primary.

The dems lost me when they sided against law enforcement as their default position.

[calfzilla]

Fucked up election. All of these candidates suck big time.

[Primemuscle]

Fucked up election. All of these candidates suck big time.

This is the absolute truth. Maybe the job of President is so "fucked up" that no one who has a least half a brain wants it. This would explain why all these candidates seem like a bunch of nitwits and liars.

[shootfighter1]

I can't support him, but, at least he's authentic.

Right now, I'm voting for Rubio in the primary.

The dems lost me when they sided against law enforcement as their default position.

Agree with all.  Democrats used to be the party of working people.  They are now the party of college progressive liberals and over-reaching government.

[TuHolmes]

Agree with all.  Democrats used to be the party of working people.  They are now the party of college progressive liberals and over-reaching government.

Isn't that really both of them?

I mean, Democrats over-reach in one area, Republicans in another... Then they both overreach in entirely different areas.

They are both shit.

[The True Adonis]

Bernie Sanders certainly represents working people.

[mr.turbo]

enjoy your tea party chit chats while you can fellas,

has anyone noticed the complete chaos and devastation playing out within the GOP?

what a mess

[Chacka]

Bernie Sanders certainly represents working people.

yes he do, seems to be an very authentic character and has genuine passion for his cause. howver I believe that the powers that be will never allow him to be president