Turnibol

[triggerhappy]

Just wondering on thoughts on turnibol never tried myself

[Jizmo]

turinabol not turnibol lol

its decent, dbol without as much water pretty much.

[Bulgarian_enforcer]

I got crazy BP with that shit 2 years ago.

[tatoo]

turinabol not turnibol lol

its decent, dbol without as much water pretty much.

never quite got the same strength as with dbol.  good results tho.

[Gainsi]

Useless lol was the first ever steroid i used, could of said i was still natty because it didn't do anything but add nearly unnoticeable strength, very mild oral imo

[Jizmo]

Useless lol was the first ever steroid i used, could of said i was still natty because it didn't do anything but add nearly unnoticeable strength, very mild oral imo

tbol is far from useless...
after reading your posts your response to gear most be utter shit. just being honest here.

my first cycle was 40mg tbol and i blew the FUCK up.
i gained like 20 lbs in the first 4 weeks and i got leaner too.
 went on a cut the remaining 4 weeks and ended up around 15lbs heavier and much leaner after the cycle.
made more gains in 8 weeks than the 2 years before that natty lol

[bigmc]

best oral imo

no sides

no bloat

[Mad-scientist]

Lol the T-bol i got years ago was definetely d-bol. So I never tried it again maybe I should give it another go.

[triggerhappy]

tbol is far from useless...
after reading your posts your response to gear most be utter shit. just being honest here.

my first cycle was 40mg tbol and i blew the FUCK up.
i gained like 20 lbs in the first 4 weeks and i got leaner too.
 went on a cut the remaining 4 weeks and ended up around 15lbs heavier and much leaner after the cycle.
made more gains in 8 weeks than the 2 years before that natty lol

Spelling was never my strong point... Lol

So 50-60mg for 4. Weeks should be ok? Will take tudca with it. Will be a small prime up before I introduce the slin.

Going to do dnp run after Christmas too to get extra lean so I can keep a better eye on my fat gains. Lucky my family are overseas for Christmas so no over eating

[pestosterone]

tbol is far from useless...
after reading your posts your response to gear most be utter shit. just being honest here.

my first cycle was 40mg tbol and i blew the FUCK up.
i gained like 20 lbs in the first 4 weeks and i got leaner too.
 went on a cut the remaining 4 weeks and ended up around 15lbs heavier and much leaner after the cycle.
made more gains in 8 weeks than the 2 years before that natty lol


[/quote Do you thinkall these people  people actually don't respond to these drugs? Or is the probly lying in training or nutrition or something else? Also could b people getting shit gear as well

[ritch]

it's a good choice as it's non toxic but I need something more androgenic to see/feel it. Even 60ish mg did not impress me much.

dbal or anadrol for this skinny monkey...

[Jizmo]

Do you thinkall these people  people actually don't respond to these drugs? Or is the probly lying in training or nutrition or something else? Also could b people getting shit gear as well

no idea. some people might just not have the genes for bodybuilding. regarding training, food assimilation or drug response.
if someone doesnt gain shit from their first cycle then its time to look for a different hobby imo.

even if you eat and train like utter shit you should get damn good results being a steroid virgin.

Spelling was never my strong point... Lol

So 50-60mg for 4. Weeks should be ok? Will take tudca with it. Will be a small prime up before I introduce the slin.

Going to do dnp run after Christmas too to get extra lean so I can keep a better eye on my fat gains. Lucky my family are overseas for Christmas so no over eating

i would run 80-100mg of it nowadays since its pretty side effect free...
4 weeks is short, you could use those dosages without issues i guess. 50-60mg will give a nice boost too.

[Mad-scientist]

Most gear is underdosed even cheap gear like testosterone is. I think real 100% dosed stuff makes people blow the fuck up. I've had blood tests done on gear that was under dosed they try to trick people by dosing it just high enough to make your testosterone pass 1500ng/dl on a common dose like 500mgs per week of test. One time I front loaded 2000mgs of test e and took 850mgs per week for 6 weeks and my blood tests came back at 2377ng/dl I was higly disappointed. Then I got different gear used the same dosage and my levels were more than 5 times that ammount.

 I would say 75% of sources under dose products especially web sites. I personally feel like no matter who you are if you take like 800mgs of pharmacy grade testosterone a week you will transform your physique to a new level if you were natural before. Look at all the guys out there that claim HGH isn't worth the money and that they didn't see shit from it except healthier looking skin or some bull shit like that most the time those guys are getting underdosed bunk stuff.

 I think there are hyper responders though with out a doubt. Look at kevin levrone and how young he was when he got in the top three at the mr olympia. I mean people could take everything they want for ten years and have a unlimited supply and still never get close to that. I've also seen people take legit tren and not even work out and they start looking pretty damn great. I think training, nutrition, and all that stuff have a major effect but real 100% dosed drugs are the game changer and most people never even find out they have under dosed stuff.

[triggerhappy]

Different here with test. I'm on script pharma test and had bloods on ugl test several time and both very close in regards to strengths. I have reliable sources though. It's the exotic compounds I have found weak like tren, mast eq and anavar

[triggerhappy]

no idea. some people might just not have the genes for bodybuilding. regarding training, food assimilation or drug response.
if someone doesnt gain shit from their first cycle then its time to look for a different hobby imo.

even if you eat and train like utter shit you should get damn good results being a steroid virgin.
i would run 80-100mg of it nowadays since its pretty side effect free...
4 weeks is short, you could use those dosages without issues i guess. 50-60mg will give a nice boost too.

Shit that's a fair dose might stick with sdrol or anadrol

[Mad-scientist]

Most the people on a forum like getbig have legit sources already I'm talking about places where newbies flock to.

[ritch]

Shit that's a fair dose might stick with sdrol or anadrol

It's the commonly used dose. Stuff makes you piss orange big time!

[triggerhappy]

It's the commonly used dose. Stuff makes you piss orange big time!

All my research led me to 60mg and I think I will have had enough from colored bodily fluids after dnp run haha

Superdrol before slin I think then anadrol or dbol or both with slin.

[lilhawk1]

Tbol and anavar are the two best orals I've ever used.  Tbol gives strength like nothing else, except halotestin.  40-60 mg should be plenty, if not it's junk, or you just don't respond to it.  Great drug, no water weight at all.

[Gainsi]

Anavar i see nothing unless i do 100mg a day MINIMUM, 150 i see insane results but after taking it, I'm outside the gym getting ready to puke my guts out. Any oral at high dosage will spike blood pressure, either way, real pharma var comes in 2.5mg tablets and no pro would need any higher than 20mg.
I combine it with epistane, i start at 60 and work my way up to 100mg. I get massive mind ripping pumps, so bad i feel like my muscles are cuming on low ass carbs as well, talking bout below 80g a day of carbs. Epi dries me out, hardens me up, amazing drug overall, my favorite oral. With var i get an amazing waist line.
Anyways, var is good at 80-100, and Epi is good at 60, people take 80, 100 is excessive i admit it myself but i like it.

[aleksis]

I prefer Epi over var... Epi is the shit!!!! Hard to find real deal var.... plus if u find it so damn expensive.. So i better off using var.. Sad they ban it in usa

[local hero]

Most the people on a forum like getbig have legit sources already I'm talking about places where newbies flock to.

I don't think anyone 100% trusts what they are getting out of a 10 ml bottle...

[efanhowz]

Anavar and turinabol are the best lean Gain Orals with the least sides (Assuming they are real) hence why they are the most expensive.

Tried tbol once at 100mg a day when oxide labs was around and they were amazing lean pumps, no appetite issues, no toxicity, just som temp hair loss

Tried team superman var at 150mg preworkout and had similar results with heartburn as only sides.

Worth it if you are getting legit product.

Drol and dbol had too many sides. I'll pay the extra $$$ to not feel like shit and avoid moon face

But good luck finding a good source

[heenok]

Used it for 6 weeks 50mg and bumped at 100mg the last 2 weeks. If i run it again i would run 70-80mg for 6 weeks.

Its decent, great strengh gains, fullness, looked drier somewhat (i was bulking). No sides except slightly elevated BP, but mine goes from low to normal essentialy... Also took it with accutane at the time and didnt have any signs of liver stress.

One thing I noticed, I was on EQ and test at that time and the EQ was fucking with my head BIG time : massive anxiety, paranoia, anger... As soon as I started the Tbol those sides VANISHED and felt very good mentaly.
It didnt really made me gain much size, a little bit but not much thickness. The strengh was pretty good altho winstrol seems to make me stronger. It is a lot stronger than anavar but weaker than winstrol in my experience.

[sceagacros]

I've used Tbol many times, 40 - 60 mg ED does the job for me, but then I'm not one for higher oral doses- I typically run Dbol @ 30 mg ED and Winny also @ 30 mg ED (when I run them, and always with a test base) and I respond quite well to moderate amounts. Tbol usually gives me some initial gastric distress:mild heartburn, gassy bloat, but this passes very quickly for me and by week 3 I'm enjoying the alpha feeling, not exactly like Dbol, more a "firmly resolved focus" vs "I feel like freaking superman", but noticeable and pleasant nonetheless.
In my opinion, based on my own experience I would favor Tbol for recomp, as opposed to cutting/ bulking where I would prefer Winny and Dbol respectively.
An aside, I was one who ran Hdrol (OTC Tbol) frequently before going to the dark side (blast/cruise 5 years now), I found that proper Tbol is NOT exactly the same, to my body anyway, real Tbol compared to Hdrol was as really good weed is to schwag, same thing but heavier, cleaner, more intense. Results were visibly subtle compared to Dball or Winny, but there; overall a solid, relatively "safe" oral IMHO.