The worst investment a man can make.

[DroppingPlates]

And the problem is most certainly not you?  you fit their criteria perfectly?

LOL, I don't claim to be perfect and -again-, I realize that most women prefer the traditional stuff.

[muscularny]

sad that the single guys here fail to realize that the married men posting are sitting next to their stinky wives. They are all miserable and fucked in. I thought the Ashley Madison scandal would have explain the situation well, almost every married male in the US under the age 45 had an account on that site.

[da_vinci]

sad that the single guys here fail to realize that the married men posting are sitting next to their stinky wives. They are all miserable and fucked in. I thought the Ashley Madison scandal would have explain the situation well, almost every married male in the US under the age 45 had an account on that site.

Pretty much /thread

[Yamcha]

IF you are going to marry, marry up.
That's my plan at least. Make my wife the bread winner. I'll be the trophy husband, Mr. GetBigger.

[DroppingPlates]

IF you are going to marry, marry up.
That's my plan at least. Make my wife the bread winner. I'll be the trophy husband, Mr. GetBigger.

The (Dennis) Wolf route..

[Yamcha]

The (Dennis) Wolf route..

Precisely

[da_vinci]

IF you are going to marry, marry up.
That's my plan at least. Make my wife the bread winner. I'll be the trophy husband, Mr. GetBigger.

Fun is fun, but my friend've got a millionaire gf (literally), has been with her for a few years already. Chick is a lil older and.. well... I would not be able to fuck her, honestly. Not even fat, just... overall not. He constantly fucks other chicks on the side, but is firmly set on the main one and does not want to change anything lol.. I can understand him, dude went through some tough shit and found a goldmine.

The downside - he gets drunk every time there's a chance. It's probably because they look better when drunk.

[flinstones1]

Some of you guys are seriously a bunch woman fearing pussies!!

If you're all worried about a modern American woman taking all  your  fortune   then don't be a pussy and ask for a prenup.  Or here is a thought, why not go find a woman that also brings a lot to the table, find a woman with a good education and a fat paying job maybe she'll be the one asking you for a prenup.


Seriously though, get your life in order and man up!  If you don't want to be in a relationship or a marriage then that's fine but don't be a pussy and then go blame women for it... Man up and ask for a prenup or actually find a woman of substance!

Where are these single, hot women in their 30's with no kids? Oh wait I know a few, but they all have major baggage and psychological issues

These guys are stating reality. Chicks are too busy riding  the cock carousal in their twenties instead of looking for a decent guy that they can have a life with. By the time they hit 30 they're past their prime, they're still looking for alpha male to knock them up. But they can't get an alpha to commit to them anymore, so they bitch and moan about men, only to settle for the first chump dumb enough  to  knock them up. They'll cheat on him and take all his money of course the moment they give him what she wants.

[Azure]

I know many that would say otherwise.

The main mistake I see men make is that they choose women who are looking to be rescued and have no plan except to find a man that will provide for them financially. These women are usually very submissive and will revolve their worlds around you and what you're doing. Men who are easily fooled will call it supportive. She will move heaven and earth to do whatever you want. It's all game though to get what she wants: financial security.  Don't t be surprised when you get bored because you realize she's boring, a nag because she has nothing else going on, and has nothing to offer that she takes you for everything you have

The alternative is to find a woman who has her own show to run. Some call her the alpha female but it's someone who has their own thing going. If she's into you, then trust me she'll redo her priorities but it's because she likes you not because she wants to be rescued

Where most men mess up is that they write these women off as bitches and difficult because they aren't a wallflower and roll over and die. It usually takes a confident and secure man to hold her attention.  This woman will be an asset to you and will have a large ROI because she will constantly be raising the bar.

[K1RB]

Fuck being tied down to a woman, let alone one with a fucking kid, which is really just some other dudes mistake.
Every guy I know that's married is a miserable bastard-

[El Diablo Blanco]

Marriage is big money. Marriage runs the trillion dollar single family home market. Marriage is the key to the economy and then they have kids and add on another 20 years of wasteful spending to the economy.  As for fucking new bitches daily.  I have no tolerance for dipshit chicks. Can't stand their constant phone looking and Facebook posting.  It's a fucking cancer.

[Lustral]

Fuck being tied down to a woman, let alone one with a fucking kid, which is really just some other dudes mistake.
Every guy I know that's married is a miserable bastard-

Fuck being lonely and leaving no part of your dna on this planet.

If you cannot find a good woman, don't settle, but calling kids a waste? Annoying at times, expensive and don't respect hangover etiquette but ultimately worth it.

[Irongrip400]

"irongriponmenscocks400", it sounds as though you are currently living the hell I figured out how to avoid long ago.  Am I right?  Or perhaps you got burned big time by some broad along the way and are still paying for it?  I figured out the game a long time ago and I'm merely passing on what I know to the less fortunate such as yourself.

No, because this:

It's pretty much what I have and it's great. Of course, you need to make decent $$$ and pick the right woman.

[DroppingPlates]

No, because this:

Why not skip all the complicated shit and have a LAT relationship? Most marriages will fail anyway on the long run

[Irongrip400]

Why not skip all the complicated shit and have a LAT relationship? Most marriages will fail anyway on the long run

I don't know what LAT means. Help me out?

[DroppingPlates]

I don't know what LAT means. Help me out?

Living Apart Together

[Lustral]

Living Apart Together

What is the benefit of that over being alone or sharing accommodation with another guy (who wont complain you are playing poker and on a bbing forum at 3am) and fucking random women?

I dunno, divorce is newer here (only legal since 1995) and my parents are married 43 years this month (yes im the youngest and probably an accident) but one sister is married 7 years, brother 10 years... it is normal to me that once married it means something and is taken seriously - in sickness and in health etc. Been with gf 6 years now, havent popped question, but it has been first relationship i have had that has survived as many ups and downs for both of us. Oh an i am a "single" father and have been through all the shit that entails including going to court so i have my eyes open to the shitty reality of a failed relationship.

I think some people are just dissing marriage cos they are embittered or think it is cool.

[Fortress]

The social gatherings most women constantly force their men into is a real killer.

[Mr Anabolic]

What is the benefit of that over being alone or sharing accommodation with another guy (who wont complain you are playing poker and on a bbing forum at 3am) and fucking random women?

I dunno, divorce is newer here (only legal since 1995) and my parents are married 43 years this month (yes im the youngest and probably an accident) but one sister is married 7 years, brother 10 years... it is normal to me that once married it means something and is taken seriously - in sickness and in health etc. Been with gf 6 years now, havent popped question, but it has been first relationship i have had that has survived as many ups and downs for both of us. Oh an i am a "single" father and have been through all the shit that entails including going to court so i have my eyes open to the shitty reality of a failed relationship.

I think some people are just dissing marriage cos they are embittered or think it is cool.

I "dis" it because I love my freedom and am able to save/spend my money anyway I please.  I cannot imagine what it's like to have to ask your wife permission to do this or that... that is slavery.

[Radical Plato]

I think some people are just dissing marriage cos they are embittered or think it is cool.

I don't think that is the case at all, they 'dis' marriage because statistically the majority of them fail. So it is natural to be embittered by an endeavour that promises happiness but ends in failure and misery.  The reality is, the majority of relationships fail, it is up to the individual to remain optimistic or not. Some just prefer to assess the situation realistically.

[twitchfibres]

Marriage is big money. Marriage runs the trillion dollar single family home market. Marriage is the key to the economy and then they have kids and add on another 20 years of wasteful spending to the economy.  As for fucking new bitches daily.  I have no tolerance for dipshit chicks. Can't stand their constant phone looking and Facebook posting.  It's a fucking cancer.

Thank you

[da_vinci]

Fuck being lonely and leaving no part of your dna on this planet.

If you cannot find a good woman, don't settle, but calling kids a waste? Annoying at times, expensive and don't respect hangover etiquette but ultimately worth it.

You think you'll care whether you left "dna" like... three days after your death?

It is irrelevant... everything will be destroyed ultimately, either by humans, by nature or by sun burning out. Here you go.

[Tha Grim Lifter]

What is the benefit of that over being alone or sharing accommodation with another guy (who wont complain you are playing poker and on a bbing forum at 3am) and fucking random women?

I dunno, divorce is newer here (only legal since 1995) and my parents are married 43 years this month (yes im the youngest and probably an accident) but one sister is married 7 years, brother 10 years... it is normal to me that once married it means something and is taken seriously - in sickness and in health etc. Been with gf 6 years now, havent popped question, but it has been first relationship i have had that has survived as many ups and downs for both of us. Oh an i am a "single" father and have been through all the shit that entails including going to court so i have my eyes open to the shitty reality of a failed relationship.

I think some people are just dissing marriage cos they are embittered or think it is cool.

I've seen plenty of men get fucked over in divorce court. Women can get screwed around too, never really as bad but my cousin did. Even one of my best mates is only 36 and got fucked hard with her able to claim half his business despite her being on a large salary.

People are dissing marriage because when it ends guys get fucking screwed and left out to dry. It's too large of a risk unless you make no money and never will.

[Lustral]

I "dis" it because I love my freedom and am able to save/spend my money anyway I please.  I cannot imagine what it's like to have to ask your wife permission to do this or that... that is slavery.

I can spend my money however i want, it helps if it is not on hookers, but i smoke and drink despite what is best for me... of course gf would like of i didnt overdo them, same as i would, but im not hen pecked. She also works full time and takes pride in not needing outside help, almost to a fault.

If i want to go out, or do pretty much anything, i dont have to explain myself. Sure i get asked to go to bed if it is late and im arsing around but i would not call that slavery. It is 2.34am here, im up late cos have work to do... had food made for me so i dont have to waste time. I call that support and care, not slavery.

I realise how soppy i am sounding but the tone of some posts makes being in a relationship sound like supporting a dead body at sea that somehow nags you constantly and wont let you fuck it (no necro). Not all women are parasitic whores.

@leaving my dna why not just have nuclear war now and end all civilisation as it wont matter 1 second after we die. Legacy.

[da_vinci]

I don't think that is the case at all, they 'dis' marriage because statistically the majority of them fail. So it is natural to be embittered by an endeavour that promises happiness but ends in failure and misery.  The reality is, the majority of relationships fail, it is up to the individual to remain optimistic or not. Some just prefer to assess the situation realistically.

This ^^, many times.

I can't wrap my head around it no matter how I look. It's pure programming, auto pilot mode for most ppl. Most of marriages fail, sooner or later (and that is a fact, sorry), yet people are still flying into it like butterflies into the fire. It is animalistic nature, nothing else, at work.