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why do people make the drastic change to veganism
« on: December 17, 2015, 03:57:34 PM »
instead of buying meat from local producers with good ethics

particularly those who have been exposed to mass production meat and dairy, the black twins, dana bailey husband, etc

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Re: why do people make the drastic change to veganism
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2015, 03:59:18 PM »
i would buy my pork from these hillbillies instead of eating tofu


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Re: why do people make the drastic change to veganism
« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2015, 04:01:54 PM »
Because they are followers.

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Re: why do people make the drastic change to veganism
« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2015, 04:07:49 PM »
Because they are followers.

This. Sheep.

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Re: why do people make the drastic change to veganism
« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2015, 04:54:54 PM »
Because they suddenly realize that killing those who are weaker then them simply for their pleasure is wrong and cowardly, and that real mean stand up and protect those who are weaker than them and others from selfish cowards who et pleasure from bullying them and harming them.

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Re: why do people make the drastic change to veganism
« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2015, 05:19:39 PM »
Ego

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Re: why do people make the drastic change to veganism
« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2015, 05:21:50 PM »
Ego

True.

It's a great way to take yourself too seriously.

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Re: why do people make the drastic change to veganism
« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2015, 05:33:32 PM »
I don't give a shit unless they lecture me. There are ads here now, everywhere, with a picture of a baby pig that looks like Babe and says "You would not harm him... govegan.ie"

Where the fuck did that leap come from? First off i could stop eating meat and be a vegetarian, but i am straight and have all my teeth. Secondly, i do not care what my food looks like before i eat it, i care how it tastes and how much there is. I believe in sustainable eating, why eat what you like out of existence, but don't tell me how to choose my diet by trying to guilt me. I don't care and it won't work.

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Re: why do people make the drastic change to veganism
« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2015, 05:37:45 PM »
Lost people need direction.
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Re: why do people make the drastic change to veganism
« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2015, 06:32:56 PM »
I don't give a shit unless they lecture me. There are ads here now, everywhere, with a picture of a baby pig that looks like Babe and says "You would not harm him... govegan.ie"

Where the fuck did that leap come from? First off i could stop eating meat and be a vegetarian, but i am straight and have all my teeth. Secondly, i do not care what my food looks like before i eat it, i care how it tastes and how much there is. I believe in sustainable eating, why eat what you like out of existence, but don't tell me how to choose my diet by trying to guilt me. I don't care and it won't work.

Fuck em.

You eat what you want. It's your body.

Why do people give a shit what you put in your body.

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Re: why do people make the drastic change to veganism
« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2015, 06:44:20 PM »
Fuck em.

You eat what you want. It's your body.

Why do people give a shit what you put in your body.

I get health campaigns/public awareness. Let people know trans-fats are bad, eating a balanced diet is good, and then leave it to health insurance/medical costs to fuck you over for transgressing these.

Otherwise, let people drink paint and, as happens, eat cars to get in Guinness book of world records. Let them die, I don't care, they can be stupid, same as people can drink whey and you can say it does not work or will harm kidneys (bollox) just don't tell me...

If being a vegan is good for you, and beneficial for the earth (let's say) why do you need to guilt people? It is a tired and shitty way of swaying opinion and does not work.

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Re: why do people make the drastic change to veganism
« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2015, 06:46:32 PM »
I get health campaigns/public awareness. Let people know trans-fats are bad, eating a balanced diet is good, and then leave it to health insurance/medical costs to fuck you over for transgressing these.

Otherwise, let people drink paint and, as happens, eat cars to get in Guinness book of world records. Let them die, I don't care, they can be stupid, same as people can drink whey and you can say it does not work or will harm kidneys (bollox) just don't tell me...

If being a vegan is good for you, and beneficial for the earth (let's say) why do you need to guilt people? It is a tired and shitty way of swaying opinion and does not work.

It's their sanctimoniousness, not the diet. Nobody gives a crap what anyone puts in the mouth and poops out.

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Re: why do people make the drastic change to veganism
« Reply #12 on: December 17, 2015, 06:47:54 PM »
I agree with both of you.

I hate that shit.

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Re: why do people make the drastic change to veganism
« Reply #13 on: December 17, 2015, 06:52:46 PM »
It's their sanctimoniousness, not the diet. Nobody gives a crap what anyone puts in the mouth and poops out.

I had to think back recently to any vegans I knew and last I knew (openly) was my old physics/maths teacher. He was a great teacher, I did well in all his classes and he mentioned it as an aside cos he talked to me but never bitched or preached about it. Always smelled of alchohol but that's potatoes for you eh?  ;D

Like most things, say what you think/believe just don't try convert/guilt everyone... (like people here re hell - hint: that does not mean anything to atheists).

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Re: why do people make the drastic change to veganism
« Reply #14 on: December 17, 2015, 06:59:41 PM »
Eating meat helped the modern human brain evolve. Perhaps they want to de-evolve.
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Re: why do people make the drastic change to veganism
« Reply #15 on: December 17, 2015, 07:00:27 PM »
I had to think back recently to any vegans I knew and last I knew (openly) was my old physics/maths teacher. He was a great teacher, I did well in all his classes and he mentioned it as an aside cos he talked to me but never bitched or preached about it. Always smelled of alchohol but that's potatoes for you eh?  ;D

Like most things, say what you think/believe just don't try convert/guilt everyone... (like people here re hell - hint: that does not mean anything to atheists).

I have the same criticism of anyone who attempts to externalize personal beliefs. Worship a Flying Spaghetti Monster if it flats your boat, just STFU about it.

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Re: why do people make the drastic change to veganism
« Reply #16 on: December 17, 2015, 07:08:27 PM »
I have the same criticism of anyone who attempts to externalize personal beliefs. Worship a Flying Spaghetti Monster if it flats your boat, just STFU about it.

Exactly.

In this cae this was especially true. He taught physics and his brother worked in a nuclear power plant even though he was morally opposed to anything that could lead to nuclear weapons (fair enough). Never let his beliefs intrude on teaching and laughed off any time we would take piss (it was a semi-informal relationship with him for the better students, I was his favourite  ;D ).

Being Vegan is so extreme - no leather bound books, no wool, no eggs, no milk, no meat (obv), no cashmere scarves designed by Gucci. Bar the taking piss at last part, that is half my lifestyle gone. Also limits choice of cars.

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Re: why do people make the drastic change to veganism
« Reply #17 on: December 18, 2015, 04:06:26 AM »
Exactly.

In this cae this was especially true. He taught physics and his brother worked in a nuclear power plant even though he was morally opposed to anything that could lead to nuclear weapons (fair enough). Never let his beliefs intrude on teaching and laughed off any time we would take piss (it was a semi-informal relationship with him for the better students, I was his favourite  ;D ).

Being Vegan is so extreme - no leather bound books, no wool, no eggs, no milk, no meat (obv), no cashmere scarves designed by Gucci. Bar the taking piss at last part, that is half my lifestyle gone. Also limits choice of cars.

I think those that can be this strict, its pretty impressive and i commend them for going all the way. Much more impressive than the coworker or family member we all know who loves saying how she/he is christian, awkwardly drills you about your beliefs in innapropriate settings like work, but decides when and how far to go with their own christianity based on how conveienent it is for them. You know the type; complains about gay people getting married, while they cheat, lie, gossip, all day long.

I didnt even think about the stuff you mentioned when it comes to being vegan, which makes it that much harder now lol. I try real hard to only eat meat if and when i know where its from, which is impossible when u eat out or see friends. So , i have been eating as vegan/vegetarian as possible. I never even tell people about it, its not important. The vegans and veges i know, never really mention it either so i have no experience with the talking vegan head who preaches. That would indicate a sociopath, and i dont know any of them (luckily).
However, where i live, i DO hear all day everyday how "christian" someone is. They loooove talking about that.

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Re: why do people make the drastic change to veganism
« Reply #18 on: December 18, 2015, 04:41:33 AM »
Eating meat helped the modern human brain evolve. Perhaps they want to de-evolve.

Not true.

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Re: why do people make the drastic change to veganism
« Reply #19 on: December 18, 2015, 04:44:38 AM »
I get health campaigns/public awareness. Let people know trans-fats are bad, eating a balanced diet is good, and then leave it to health insurance/medical costs to fuck you over for transgressing these.

Otherwise, let people drink paint and, as happens, eat cars to get in Guinness book of world records. Let them die, I don't care, they can be stupid, same as people can drink whey and you can say it does not work or will harm kidneys (bollox) just don't tell me...

If being a vegan is good for you, and beneficial for the earth (let's say) why do you need to guilt people? It is a tired and shitty way of swaying opinion and does not work.

Why you need to guilt people? Well obviously if they are doing bad stuff to others and seem to show no apparent guilt then you need to make them realise what they are doing is wrong. Whether is raping kids or killing animals for pleasure etc. None of it is nice and it need to be pointed out and stopped.

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Re: why do people make the drastic change to veganism
« Reply #20 on: December 18, 2015, 04:47:18 AM »
I think it's just the latest hipster fad.

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Re: why do people make the drastic change to veganism
« Reply #21 on: December 18, 2015, 04:48:56 AM »
Why you need to guilt people? Well obviously if they are doing bad stuff to others and seem to show no apparent guilt then you need to make them realise what they are doing is wrong. Whether is raping kids or killing animals for pleasure etc. None of it is nice and it need to be pointed out and stopped.

You just compared eating sustenance to raping children and killing animals for fun.

Way to go off the rails quick

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Re: why do people make the drastic change to veganism
« Reply #22 on: December 18, 2015, 05:20:39 AM »
I catch and eat fish, that's my main source of protein.
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Re: why do people make the drastic change to veganism
« Reply #23 on: December 18, 2015, 05:33:32 AM »
I eat at least one chicken per day.
I have for the past 10 years.
So that means I have eaten 3650 chickens.
That's pretty cool.
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Re: why do people make the drastic change to veganism
« Reply #24 on: December 18, 2015, 05:46:43 AM »
You just compared eating sustenance to raping children and killing animals for fun.

Way to go off the rails quick

They are both hurting others for your pleasure. What's the difference?