Author Topic: Marijuana, it's not as harmless as you think (Read 14579 times)

Coffeed · « **Reply #25 on:** December 21, 2015, 05:07:46 AM »

They don't call it wacky weed for nothing.

Stick to steroids and cocaine like normal bodybuilders.

Wiggs · « **Reply #26 on:** December 21, 2015, 05:11:28 AM »

Quote from: Radical Plato on December 21, 2015, 05:05:51 AM

I currently don't smoke pot and have no desires to indulge at this point. But I have smoked in the past, had no trouble coming off it and no change in motivation when using it. Those who go to hell while smoking pot would go to hell without it. Some people are just losers, their pot use doesn't make them losers, they are just losers who happen to smoke pot.

I think what you think I'm arguing is not what I'm arguing. I've excelled on it and used that as an argument to anyone that came against me. Point is, I was still an addict. And coming off was a sumbitch. I don't want to be an addict to anything. And seeing how everything so so much more clear and real, I'll take this over the former. I had a good time for 7 years but it's time to grow up, face reality as it is and not hide behind plants or chemicals.

Donny · « **Reply #27 on:** December 21, 2015, 05:15:03 AM »

so what do they mix it with now a Days? I just remember mainly smoking hash as a kid. black,leb,rocky, Nepalese, oil. Grass i never liked. I have not seen it in years so i don´t know about these synthetic ones someone mentioned?

Royalty · « **Reply #28 on:** December 21, 2015, 05:18:27 AM »

The one thing that Uncle Junior said that I thought was a real powerful statement was simply this:

"Fuck addiction"

Wiggs · « **Reply #29 on:** December 21, 2015, 05:21:20 AM »

Quote from: Royalty on December 21, 2015, 05:18:27 AM

The one thing that Uncle Junior said that I thought was a real powerful statement was simply this:

"Fuck addiction"

Bondage brother, bondage and yes, Fuck it. I rebuke it in Christ's name.

FitnessFrenzy · « **Reply #30 on:** December 21, 2015, 05:25:25 AM »

Wiggs, I am happy that you are progressing with your life and that you beat the marijuana addiction. Merry christmas.

Wiggs · « **Reply #31 on:** December 21, 2015, 05:27:31 AM »

Quote from: FitnessFrenzy on December 21, 2015, 05:25:25 AM

Wiggs, I am happy that you are progressing with your life and that you beat the marijuana addiction. Merry christmas.

Thank You friend. I wish you well.

DroppingPlates · « **Reply #32 on:** December 21, 2015, 05:42:56 AM »

Quote from: Wiggs on December 21, 2015, 04:15:26 AM

Outside of myself, I've consistently seen people believe they weren't addicted to smoking this plant. Then when they come off for whatever reasons, they go through hell in withdrawal. Insomnia, irritability, mood swings, nightmares, vivid dreams, hot and cold sweats, depression, anxiety and delusions about world orders, planets & hebrews. All of these are very real symptoms.

And you still suffer from the sides

Red Hook · « **Reply #33 on:** December 21, 2015, 05:48:31 AM »

Some of you are missing what Wiggs said.. he mentioned the synthetic strains. My guess is that the weed from 30 years ago is not the same weed as today. They are creating more and more potent strains.

If weed is legal does that mean that shatter will be legal as well? I recently learned about shatter from a news article

I have seen what addiction has done to my friends and family and so at an early I decided never to smoke anything

TheShape. · « **Reply #34 on:** December 21, 2015, 05:54:54 AM »

I agree Wiggs, it serves as a great natural medicine when used properly, but I don't think it should be smoked. Lungs only should be getting nice clean air.

WOOO · « **Reply #35 on:** December 21, 2015, 06:10:45 AM »

Quote from: Ronnie Rep on December 21, 2015, 05:07:13 AM

Weed is just like everything else, if abused it can become a detriment. If used for stress releif etc it's fine.

That's my sense of it as well. I've never had an issue with the munchies. I tend to fast during the day anyway and I smoke before my largest meal of the day.

Weed makes me thirsty as it's only side effect. I don't get red eyes. And hydration is a good thing.

muscularny · « **Reply #36 on:** December 21, 2015, 06:12:50 AM »

Quote from: Wiggs on December 21, 2015, 04:15:26 AM

No need to rehash my past relationship with this plant.
What I can say is that anyone that believes, "it's just weed", is misinformed.

Outside of myself, I've consistently seen people believe they weren't addicted to smoking this plant. Then when they come off for whatever reasons, they go through hell in withdrawal. Insomnia, irritability, mood swings, nightmares, vivid dreams, hot and cold sweats, depression and anxiety. All of these are very real symptoms.

I'm not against marijuana the plant. I'm against all these hybrid strains and I'm against it being smoked. (not meant to be)
It may start innocent but over time, if you're not careful, it will grow to be a part of you if you lean on it too much and it inevitably does for many. It's hell coming off when you've been on long term.

It's not an opioid or alcohol withdrawal. It's in its own class and needs to be respected.

Please let my experiences serve as a warning.

I guess the same way some argue that a Muslim that commits terror is not a Muslim, we can argue that marijuana that causes any problems is not real marijuana.

I do find that people I know who smoke weed gradually become very different humans in a very annoying way. The one girl I know who stopped because she gets tested for work, became a complete lunatic, every day she is busy seeking out new topics of paranoia, from earth is flat to bilderberg stories etc.

Donny · « **Reply #37 on:** December 21, 2015, 06:24:33 AM »

Bulgarian_enforcer · « **Reply #38 on:** December 21, 2015, 07:32:25 AM »

I agree with OP. Weed is very addictive and coming off long term heavy use is fucking hell (especially if on AAS).

Last time I was out of the country I did not have access to the plant for a week and was grumpy as fuck, had little appetite and trouble sleeping.

ritch · « **Reply #39 on:** December 21, 2015, 10:01:01 AM »

Hey,
hey,
hey,
Smoke weed every day!

Nether Animal · « **Reply #40 on:** December 21, 2015, 10:03:56 AM »

I smoke 3-4 times a day.

It's something that if I have on tap, I will probably end up using daily.

But when I run out I'm in no rush to find more, nor would I actually pay cash for it. I get endless supply free moreless.

ritch · « **Reply #41 on:** December 21, 2015, 10:07:22 AM »

Quote from: Nether Animal on December 21, 2015, 10:03:56 AM

I smoke 3-4 times a day.

It's something that if I have on tap, I will probably end up using daily.

But when I run out I'm in no rush to find more, nor would I actually pay cash for it. I get endless supply free moreless.

Damn, nice deal ya got going!
I smoke 3-5 times myself. But have actually quit pre workout lately. That first joint of the day and the wonderful nap I get after is just the best!

Nether Animal · « **Reply #42 on:** December 21, 2015, 10:10:51 AM »

When I wake up and smoke, there is a 50% chance I will hit the sack again for a few more hours.

I don't mind smoking before working out, but I catch myself acting like a goofball in public sometimes when I'm really stoned.

It's like Kramer-esque aloofness.

ritch · « **Reply #43 on:** December 21, 2015, 10:13:51 AM »

Quote from: Nether Animal on December 21, 2015, 10:10:51 AM

When I wake up and smoke, there is a 50% chance I will hit the sack again for a few more hours.

I don't mind smoking before working out, but I catch myself acting like a goofball in public sometimes when I'm really stoned.

It's like Kramer-esque aloofness.

I do that every day. I never sleep 8hrs straight. I get 4-6, wake up, smoke, troll this place a bit, let my eyes get heavy, go back to sleep...

It would be that, or some strong sleep med. I prefer this.

Nether Animal · « **Reply #44 on:** December 21, 2015, 10:15:52 AM »

It would be a good sleep aid if it was more consistent in the level of fatigue and gradient of onset. That said, waking up afterward is quite refreshing.

I've tried taking the entry level sleeping pills. Trazadone, remeron etc.

Makes you feel like warm dookie when you wake up. It's like you slammed a handle of popov the night before.

Tennisballz · « **Reply #45 on:** December 21, 2015, 10:23:09 AM »

Tried it and never liked it. Always felt paranoid and I hate feeling slow and delayed. I think pot heads want to believe way more people use it than actually do.

bigmikecox · « **Reply #46 on:** December 21, 2015, 10:27:42 AM »

Quote from: Wiggs on December 21, 2015, 04:15:26 AM

No need to rehash my past relationship with this plant.
What I can say is that anyone that believes, "it's just weed", is misinformed.

Outside of myself, I've consistently seen people believe they weren't addicted to smoking this plant. Then when they come off for whatever reasons, they go through hell in withdrawal. Insomnia, irritability, mood swings, nightmares, vivid dreams, hot and cold sweats, depression and anxiety. All of these are very real symptoms.

I'm not against marijuana the plant. I'm against all these hybrid strains and I'm against it being smoked. (not meant to be)
It may start innocent but over time, if you're not careful, it will grow to be a part of you if you lean on it too much and it inevitably does for many. It's hell coming off when you've been on long term.

It's not an opioid or alcohol withdrawal. It's in its own class and needs to be respected.

Please let my experiences serve as a warning.

I smoke a LOT. But i cut it out at 14 weeks out from my show and had no bad sides. Did i want to blaze, sure, but i get too hungry and would have blown my diet

wes · « **Reply #47 on:** December 21, 2015, 10:36:51 AM »

I cut weed out long before I cut out all of my other addictions.

It made me feel dragged out,paranoid,forgetful,and it made me binge out on foods of any combination.

Thespritz0 · « **Reply #48 on:** December 21, 2015, 11:45:01 AM »

I heard a really good discussion on Marijuana and it is the DEGREE of "Addictive Personality" you have inside you that determines IF it will be difficult, or easy for you to either quit or just use infrequently..

Wiggs · « **Reply #49 on:** December 21, 2015, 11:47:44 AM »

Quote from: Thespritz0 on December 21, 2015, 11:45:01 AM

I heard a really good discussion on Marijuana and it is the DEGREE of "Addictive Personality" you have inside you that determines IF it will be difficult, or easy for you to either quit or just use infrequently..

There are chemical and neurological changes that occur as well that need to account for.