What's my body fat % in these pics?

[ritch]

I think I just hold some extra fat on the lower part of the pecs, but gyno? Really ? 

You seriously don't notice it? Your lower pec looks very soft, kinda hangs there.
I rarely comment on gyno, am saying this to inform/help you.

[iwannabejacked]

You seriously don't notice it? Your lower pec looks very soft, kinda hangs there.
I rarely comment on gyno, am saying this to inform/help you.

I know I have fat in that area, but it's never bothered me really. I think it's there because my overall body fat % was still higher than 12% in those pics. If it stays there once I'm done cutting (around 17 lbs less than these pics), then I'll be more concerned.

[_aj_]

I haven't looked at the pics or the rest of the thread, but I am comfortable in calling it super gyno.

Suicide is the only option.

[tommywishbone]

It's not gyno.  Dude's just mushy. Stop dieting. Eat like a bodybuilder and you'll be fine. Solid base.

[Nether Animal]

It's not gyno.  Dude's just mushy. Stop dieting. Eat like a bodybuilder and you'll be fine. Solid base.

True, its a good start. Like I said he has decent tris, nice development in some areas. Just structural problems but what can you do?

[iwannabejacked]

True, its a good start. Like I said he has decent tris, nice development in some areas. Just structural problems but what can you do?

Except it's not my starting point lol. I've been training for almost 3 years now, of which almost two were bulking and "eating like a bodybuilder, while training around 4 times a week. I think I can gain maybe 5 lbs more of muscle, but I'd rather gain those while starting lean than getting fatter than I already am (11 lbs more than the pics). I'd rather be small and lean than big and super fat. It's not like another natural bulk will make me a beast either.

[Howard]

Well you are single and retired now. Pitching in would be the decent thing to do

If he wore a kai mask I'd consider...

[Nether Animal]

Except it's not my starting point lol. I've been training for almost 3 years now, of which almost two were bulking and "eating like a bodybuilder, while training around 4 times a week. I think I can gain maybe 5 lbs more of muscle, but I'd rather gain those while starting lean than getting fatter than I already am (11 lbs more than the pics). I'd rather be small and lean than big and super fat. It's not like another natural bulk will make me a beast either.

You are pretty damn lean by layman standards right now. Aren't you natural? Going leaner will cost you muscle you can't afford to lose. your look now is decent IMO... lean bulk then. it isn't hard. You are nowhere near your natural limit for size.

Just my opinions..

[iwannabejacked]

You are pretty damn lean by layman standards right now. Aren't you natural? Going leaner will cost you muscle you can't afford to lose. your look now is decent IMO... lean bulk then. it isn't hard. You are nowhere near your natural limit for size.

Just my opinions..

I'm fatter now than in those pics. I've already had 18 inch arms and 26+ inch legs at 213 lbs. Dieted that down and I really didn't have much. If I lean bulk from 172-173 to 185-190 I would end up quite fat. I'd rather cut to 145 and then bulk up to 170 and maybe gain 5 solid lbs in the process.

[Nether Animal]

I'm fatter now than in those pics. I've already had 18 inch arms and 26+ inch legs at 213 lbs. Dieted that down and I really didn't have much. If I lean bulk from 172-173 to 185-190 I would end up quite fat. I'd rather cut to 145 and then bulk up to 170 and maybe gain 5 solid lbs in the process.

That's not a successful lean bulk then...

Seems frustrating, I don't care about being "bb level shredded" as a natural, seems difficult to maintain let alone progress. 11-12% is one thing but geez.

[galain]

This is already a pretty low bodyfat for the general population. People would think you look really ripped at the local swimming pool. I'd guess somewhere around 10-12%.

[HTexan]

This is already a pretty low bodyfat for the general population. People would think you look really ripped at the local swimming pool. I'd guess somewhere around 10-12%.

Yep, about 12%.
Your tits aren't sore?

[Tennisballz]

You look to be about 10% in the pics.  I would say that you can probably gain another 10 lbs of muscle before you would be getting close to your natural genetic limit.  I would advise against dieting to be shredded.  It is a waste of time and you will probably lose muscle if you aren't juicing.  I would just keep doing a very slow clean bulk and let your body mature a little.

[tommywishbone]

You are pretty damn lean by layman standards right now. Aren't you natural? Going leaner will cost you muscle you can't afford to lose. your look now is decent IMO... lean bulk then. it isn't hard. You are nowhere near your natural limit for size.

Just my opinions..

Agreed. That's easily a three year, natural physique. Back off the cardio, hit abs 2/3 times per week max. Stay drug free UNLESS you are prepping for a show.  

[Thong Maniac]

Wow some real shit heads here...

No gyno
10 percent
Looks awesome for 20 and great for any age
Stay natty. Most need gear for that look

[Method101]

Lol. My problem is not abs, cause they had some veins there. I've already done the bulking baloney. Won't do it again unless I start ripped. Hardening up with training hasn't happened unless I cut. That shit only happens with juice.
I'd say 15 % in those pics.

10%

Do you realise going lower as a natural is just going to kill your sex drive and you will lose gains, just start bulking again.

[local hero]

Every look at me thread should be banned unless there is extensive close up nipple shots, mods need to crack down on this pronto


Also, anyone 5'11 well under 200lbs asking about getting ripped needs to post on an anorexia forum

[evandatp]

Congrats Mary,

You have gender-reassigning levels of bitch-tittedness.

Don't care if this helps.

[SuperTed]

Wow some real shit heads here...

No gyno
10 percent
Looks awesome for 20 and great for any age
Stay natty. Most need gear for that look

Agree on the gyno but do you seriously think most people would need gear to look like this kid? He just looks like an average ecto who does some resistance training.

[Batfreak]

keep training and eat.

solid swimmer look.

[20inch calves]

I would say 8-9% you are young. Put on solid mass slowly. You have a good base

[HTexan]

Wow some real shit heads here...

No gyno
10 percent
Looks awesome for 20 and great for any age
Stay natty. Most need gear for that look

Eat your boyfriend's ass, bitch.

[ritch]

Wow some real shit heads here...

No gyno
10 percent
Looks awesome for 20 and great for any age
Stay natty. Most need gear for that look

You don't see the gyno bump?
I'm not busting balls man, trying to help.
Take another look at the pic.

[iwannabejacked]

1. My goal is to be leaner than these pics year round and maybe do one more bulk fairly reasonably to avoid cutting more than 20 lbs to get ripped again. I don't think bulking and cutting indefinitely is reasonable unless you juice and keep upping the doses. By continuously bulking and cutting I'll hardly ever get in ripped shape and maintain it for more than a few weeks.
2. My nipples aren't sore. I don't feel any sort of discomfort there.
3. I think most people underestimate the amount of weight they need to lose to get ripped or shredded and assume they lost a lot of muscle. I'd like to get to Cephissus' or Wavelength's level of rippedness  I think I have a similar amount of muscle as them and a small frame as well. I'm trying to slowly reduce calories and cut off sweets and junk food, which I tend to overeat sometimes. I can maintain 170-175 extremely comfortably though. I want to get ripped, but not suffering too much. I wanna do it slowly and IMO it doesn't make sense to work so hard for cuts just to throw them away by trying to get big, which I am not meant to be.
4. I don't do much cardio atm.
5. I think there are plenty of natties out there bigger than me and with a better frame, but I doubt the differences are huge. Maybe 180-185 lbs in this condition for a genetic freak of my height and that's being optimistic.
6. I lost sex drive when I was dieting in these pics, but I also went unnecessarily strict by the end of it. From 213 to 185 it was a breeze and I didn't suffer at all. Then I cut 25 lbs more, the difference was drastic (which is why I doubt I lost muscle), but I felt like shit. I think I could feel a lot better and get much leaner than these pics if I do it in a smarter way.
7. I don't care that juiced bodybuilders think anything under 200 lbs for my height is anorexia lol. They have a problem themselves. At 200 lbs I'm fat. Hell, even if I juiced I wouldn't shoot for more than 180 lbs shredded to the bone and dry, which is actually pretty big for my frame and height.
8. Most natties can get to my level naturally and easily surpass me. 

[iwannabejacked]

Current condition: http://imgur.com/a/TG6Tx      No homo...

200-205: http://imgur.com/a/UtlgL