Author Topic: Who is right and who is wrong? (Read 2201 times)

SF1900 · « **on:** December 28, 2015, 06:11:39 PM »

Joe and Anne (Husband and wife) invited myself, my other friend (Bob), and Rick and Diana (Husband and Wife) over for New Years. Myself and Bob always go to Joe and Anne's for New Years. This year, Rick and Diana are coming. I just found out that Rick and Diana are bringing their 2 1/2 year old son (Chris) to New Years. Joe and Anne have an 18 month old (Samantha). Samantha will most likely be in bed by 9:00 or so, but Chris will most likely be up the whole freaking night. Anne warned Diana that its more of an adult-themed party, and there will be cursing, drinking, and probably watching movies that are not too kid friendly. Diana replied, "That is fine, as long as the movies don't have strong violence or strong language and there is not a lot of cursing."

Now, the thing is, I 100% do not agree with this. When I go to my friends house, Im pretty much stuck watching cartoons. I am fine with that, but New Years Eve is not a kid friendly "holiday." Why should we all censor ourselves the ONE night of the year, where kids should not be present? Joe asked Rick if they can find a babysitter. He told Rick that our plan was NOT to censor ourselves during the night if we choose not to.

The question becomes: who is right and who is wrong?

_aj_ · « **Reply #1 on:** December 28, 2015, 06:14:14 PM »

How long have you been dating Bob?

Nether Animal · « **Reply #2 on:** December 28, 2015, 06:14:37 PM »

Quote from: _aj_ on December 28, 2015, 06:14:14 PM

How long have you been dating Bob?

SF1900 · « **Reply #3 on:** December 28, 2015, 06:15:30 PM »

Quote from: Nether Animal on December 28, 2015, 06:14:37 PM

Nether Animal, your opinion means a lot. Please, give me guidance.

guyincognito · « **Reply #4 on:** December 28, 2015, 06:15:39 PM »

That is just selfish. They knew it was a New Years party for adults but they still force their kid and their rules on you. If it was me I'd say that I couldn't come if I couldn't get a babysitter for the kid instead of ruining the fun for everyone. People thinks just because they have kids everyone should kowtow to their needs. I agree with you on this.

SF1900 · « **Reply #5 on:** December 28, 2015, 06:16:53 PM »

Quote from: guyincognito on December 28, 2015, 06:15:39 PM

That is just selfish. They knew it was a New Years party for adults but they still force their kid and their rules on you. If it was me I'd say that I couldn't come if I couldn't get a babysitter for the kid instead of ruining the fun for everyone. People thinks just because they have kids everyone should kowtow to their needs. I agree with you on this.

Thank you guyincognito. I suspect that I am also right. I just don't understand why she has to bring her kid along. Its just ONE night out of the year! ONE night.

guyincognito · « **Reply #6 on:** December 28, 2015, 06:20:07 PM »

Quote from: SF1900 on December 28, 2015, 06:16:53 PM

Thank you guyincognito. I suspect that I am also right. I just don't understand why she has to bring her kid along. Its just ONE night out of the year! ONE night.

Exactly. One night. What, she couldn't get a sitter? If not, she should just excuse herself from the party and celebrate with her family and try to go next year. Would be the decent thing to do, in my opinion.

SF1900 · « **Reply #7 on:** December 28, 2015, 06:21:08 PM »

Quote from: guyincognito on December 28, 2015, 06:20:07 PM

Exactly. One night. What, she couldn't get a sitter? If not, she just excuse herself and celebrate with her family and try to go next year. Would be the decent thing to do, in my opinion.

Update:

Diana texted Anne and told her that she will not be coming, but Rick, her husband would come, and she would sit home with Chris.

WTF!! Just find a babysitter!! Why make things so complicated?

Nether Animal · « **Reply #8 on:** December 28, 2015, 06:22:14 PM »

Quote from: SF1900 on December 28, 2015, 06:15:30 PM

Nether Animal, your opinion means a lot. Please, give me guidance.

You are right.

SF1900 · « **Reply #9 on:** December 28, 2015, 06:23:19 PM »

Quote from: Nether Animal on December 28, 2015, 06:22:14 PM

You are right.

Thank you, NA. Your guidance is well received.

guyincognito · « **Reply #10 on:** December 28, 2015, 06:23:49 PM »

Quote from: SF1900 on December 28, 2015, 06:21:08 PM

Update:

Diana texted Anne and told her that she will not be coming, but Rick, her husband would come, and she would sit home with Chris.

WTF!! Just find a babysitter!! Why make things so complicated?

I hate this new style of parenting where everything revolves around the kids 24/7 365 and you give up everything fun.

_aj_ · « **Reply #11 on:** December 28, 2015, 06:25:26 PM »

Quote from: SF1900 on December 28, 2015, 06:21:08 PM

Update:

Diana texted Anne and told her that she will not be coming, but Rick, her husband would come, and she would sit home with Chris.

WTF!! Just find a babysitter!! Why make things so complicated?

It's turning into a regular sausage-fest! You and Bob should have fun with many new delights.

Hulkotron · « **Reply #12 on:** December 28, 2015, 06:27:54 PM »

Quote from: _aj_ on December 28, 2015, 06:14:14 PM

How long have you been dating Bob?

Beat me to it

SF1900 · « **Reply #13 on:** December 28, 2015, 06:28:12 PM »

Quote from: guyincognito on December 28, 2015, 06:23:49 PM

I hate this new style of parenting where everything revolves around the kids 24/7 365 and you give up everything fun.

The thing is, growing up I watched horror movies and heard people curse all the time. It had little to no effect on me. Even if she did bring her son, him hearing some curse words will have absolutely no effect on him whatsoever. She acts like hes going to be traumatized for life.

WalterWhite · « **Reply #14 on:** December 28, 2015, 06:29:03 PM »

Quote from: _aj_ on December 28, 2015, 06:14:14 PM

How long have you been dating Bob?

SF1900 · « **Reply #15 on:** December 28, 2015, 06:29:16 PM »

Quote from: Hulkotron on December 28, 2015, 06:27:54 PM

Beat me to it

Bob is dating someone, shes just not coming that night.

Hulkotron, what would you do in this scenario? Youre one of the bigger guys on here and will have sound advice.

Hulkotron · « **Reply #16 on:** December 28, 2015, 06:31:50 PM »

Quote from: SF1900 on December 28, 2015, 06:29:16 PM

Bob is dating someone, shes just not coming that night.

Hulkotron, what would you do in this scenario? Youre one of the bigger guys on here and will have sound advice.

guyincognito · « **Reply #17 on:** December 28, 2015, 06:32:04 PM »

Quote from: SF1900 on December 28, 2015, 06:28:12 PM

The thing is, growing up I watched horror movies and heard people curse all the time. It had little to no effect on me. Even if she did bring her son, him hearing some curse words will have absolutely no effect on him whatsoever. She acts like hes going to be traumatized for life.

You are right, she is just being hysterical. It was like that when I grew up too, on another continent from you. She needs to get over this notion that her special little snowflake is too delicate to be around conversing normal adults.

TuHolmes · « **Reply #18 on:** December 28, 2015, 06:41:04 PM »

Kids don't know what New Years is all about anyway.

They decided to have kids, they should stay home with them and just be family friendly or get a sitter.

That's just what you do when you are a parent.

WOOO · « **Reply #19 on:** December 28, 2015, 06:42:45 PM »

Quote from: SF1900 on December 28, 2015, 06:11:39 PM

Joe and Anne (Husband and wife) invited myself, my other friend (Bob), and Rick and Diana (Husband and Wife) over for New Years. Myself and Bob always go to Joe and Anne's for New Years. This year, Rick and Diana are coming. I just found out that Rick and Diana are bringing their 2 1/2 year old son (Chris) to New Years. Joe and Anne have an 18 month old (Samantha). Samantha will most likely be in bed by 9:00 or so, but Chris will most likely be up the whole freaking night. Anne warned Diana that its more of an adult-themed party, and there will be cursing, drinking, and probably watching movies that are not too kid friendly. Diana replied, "That is fine, as long as the movies don't have strong violence or strong language and there is not a lot of cursing."

Now, the thing is, I 100% do not agree with this. When I go to my friends house, Im pretty much stuck watching cartoons. I am fine with that, but New Years Eve is not a kid friendly "holiday." Why should we all censor ourselves the ONE night of the year, where kids should not be present? Joe asked Rick if they can find a babysitter. He told Rick that our plan was NOT to censor ourselves during the night if we choose not to.

The question becomes: who is right and who is wrong?

Im right. HTH.

HarleyBreite · « **Reply #20 on:** December 28, 2015, 06:45:26 PM »

Dear SF1900,
Without boring everyone with a long diatribe of how my American cohorts have completely distorted the lines of parenting,
you are completely correct in expecting an adult night and not the selfishness of someone imposing their child and their own rules
upon others at what is, undoubtedly, an adult affair.
Harley

SF1900 · « **Reply #21 on:** December 28, 2015, 06:45:44 PM »

Quote from: TuHolmes on December 28, 2015, 06:41:04 PM

Kids don't know what New Years is all about anyway.

They decided to have kids, they should stay home with them and just be family friendly or get a sitter.

That's just what you do when you are a parent.

I agree that they should get a sitter. They can leave their child for ONE night.

SF1900 · « **Reply #22 on:** December 28, 2015, 06:46:57 PM »

Quote from: WOOO on December 28, 2015, 06:42:45 PM

Im right. HTH.

Woo, you are always right.

SF1900 · « **Reply #23 on:** December 28, 2015, 06:47:46 PM »

Quote from: HarleyBreite on December 28, 2015, 06:45:26 PM

Dear SF1900,
Without boring everyone with a long diatribe of how my American cohorts have completely distorted the lines of parenting,
you are completely correct in expecting an adult night and not the selfishness of someone imposing their child and their own rules
upon others at what is, undoubtedly, an adult affair.
Harley

Harley, this is all I needed to hear. Your word is definitely "gold." Thank you.

Never1AShow · « **Reply #24 on:** December 28, 2015, 07:02:49 PM »

Quote from: SF1900 on December 28, 2015, 06:16:53 PM

Thank you guyincognito. I suspect that I am also right. I just don't understand why she has to bring her kid along. Its just ONE night out of the year! ONE night.

You don't need blame, who's right or wrong, you need a solution. Here it is. There is a certain sound frequency that adults cannot hear but kids can, especially babies. It drives them crazy and makes them cry constantly. I think it is available as a ringtone. So you can get it for your phone and drive the coup,e with the kid out, or if you are more kind, you can tell them that you have noticed that there is something about the house/apartment that for some reason seems to drive babies to cry. Have them come over and test it out first and let them see for themselves that the kid will be crying. Then they'll either get a babysitter or not come.