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First time cycle advice
« on: December 30, 2015, 01:52:59 PM »
Anyone ran a short low dose test only cycle? If so:
 what side effects did you notice?
What dosages an type of test did you use?
What blockers did you use / PCT
Did your test levels come back to normal after cycle?

Was just curious on what a low dose test only cycle is like on the body.

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Re: First time cycle advice
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2015, 07:23:16 PM »
300mg vs 600mg of testosterone
The following is part of a thread by heavyiron over at MD, the full abstact can be found here..Testosterone dose-response relationships in healthy young men -- Bhasin et al. 281 (6): E1172 -- AJP - Endocrinology and Metabolism

The following text outlines the benefits and risks of Testosterone administration based on a clinical human trial of 61 healthy men in 2001. The purpose of the trial was to determine the dose dependency of testosterone’s effects on fat-free mass and muscle performance. In this trial 61 men, 18-35years old were randomized into 5 groups receiving weekly injections of 25, 50, 125, 300, 600 mg of Testosterone Enanthate for 20 weeks. They had previous weight-lifting experience and normal T levels. Their nutritional intake was standardized and they did not undertake any strength training during the trial. The only two groups that reported significant muscle building benefits were the 300 and 600 mg groups so any dose lower than 300mg will not be considered in this essay. 12 men participated in the 300 mg group and 13 men in the 600 mg group.
600mg of Testosterone a week for 20 weeks resulted in the following benefits. Increased fat free mass, muscle strength, muscle power, muscle volume, hemoglobin and IGF-1.
The same 600 mg administration resulted in 2 side effects. HDL cholesterol was negatively correlated and 2 men developed acne.
The normal range for total T in men is 241-827 ng/dl according to Labcorp and 260-1000 ng/dl according to Quest Laboratories. The normal range for IGF-1 is 81-225 according to Labcorp. Total T and IGF-1 levels were taken after 16 weeks and resulted in the following;



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Re: First time cycle advice
« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2015, 07:41:21 AM »
I ran test E for about 8 wks once and i also ran test cyp for about the same 600 mgs a wk, first time i used no Ais and i got big strong but bloated was not the look i was going for, when i used the test e i threw some nolvadex in the mix and had a more pleasing look. but i must say 8 wks was not nearly enough it was like when i finally started to get a nice look i was out of test.

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Re: First time cycle advice
« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2016, 09:23:26 AM »
I ran test E for about 8 wks once and i also ran test cyp for about the same 600 mgs a wk, first time i used no Ais and i got big strong but bloated was not the look i was going for, when i used the test e i threw some nolvadex in the mix and had a more pleasing look. but i must say 8 wks was not nearly enough it was like when i finally started to get a nice look i was out of test.

Hmmmm! Thanks for the reply though I'll keep that in mind!

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