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Obama to announce new executive action on guns
« on: December 31, 2015, 03:37:46 PM »
The Emperor in Chief about to take action again because he is incapable of working with Congress.   

Obama to announce new executive action on guns
By Jim Acosta and Kevin Liptak, CNN
Thu December 31, 2015

(CNN)President Barack Obama is expected to announce in the coming days a new executive action with the goal of expanding background checks on gun sales, people familiar with White House planning said.

Described as "imminent," the set of executive actions would fulfill a promise by the President to take further unilateral steps the White House says could help curb gun deaths.

Plans for the action are not yet complete, and those familiar with the process warn that unforeseen circumstances could delay an announcement. But gun control advocates are expecting the new actions to be revealed next week, ahead of Obama's annual State of the Union address, set for January 12.

The White House wouldn't comment directly on the exact timing or content of Obama's executive orders. White House spokesman Eric Schultz said that the President expected a set of recommendations on unilateral action to arrive at the beginning of the year.

He said Obama was "expressing urgency" for a list of steps he can take on his own after high-profile incidents of gun violence at the end of this year.

"It is complicated. That's why it's taken some time for our policy folks, our lawyers, and our expects to work through this and see what's possible," Schultz said.

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A spokeswoman for the National Rifle Association said the group had no comment The group previously told CNN that Obama's "gun control agenda was rejected by Congress. Now, he is doing what he always does when he doesn't get his way, defying the will of the people and using executive action."

The group said at the time that Obama had his "wish list of gun control," in California but "it didn't prevent the San Bernardino attack."

"The fact is, the President's gun control agenda will only make it harder for law-abiding citizens to exercise their right to self-defense," NRA spokeswoman Jennifer Baker.

Gun control advocates and White House officials say the focus remains on the so-called "gun show loophole," which allows certain sellers of guns -- at gun shows and elsewhere -- to avoid conducting background checks before making sales.

Months after the Newtown, Connecticut elementary school massacre that claimed 26 victims, the then-Democratic majority Senate rejected a similar proposal.

Three years after Newtown, Obama lambasts inaction on guns

Congress would still need to act in order to make background checks fully universal. But advocates and administration lawyers have struck upon a provision in the law that could allow for Obama to expand the background check requirement to additional sellers.

Federal law currently requires all individuals "engaged in the business" of selling guns to obtain a license and conduct background checks on buyers. But others who only make occasional sales or are selling firearms from a personal collection are exempted from the background check requirement.

Gun control advocates say Obama could take action himself by issuing a regulation that provides expanded guidance on who falls under the "in the business" standard.

Obama calls for gun reforms in wake of San Bernardino shooting

One group, the Michael Bloomberg-helmed Everytown for Gun Safety, has provided recommendations to the White House that include creating a test for assessing who must become licensed to continue selling guns. Factors would include volume and speed of sales, and whether or not the seller relies on advertising to sell guns.

The group also recommended Obama define a gun in a "personal collection" as having been in the seller's possession for at least a year.

Before leaving for his winter vacation in Hawaii, Obama met with Bloomberg at the White House to discuss gun control.

Aside from the background check provision, people familiar with Obama's plans say his new gun control announcement will include new funding for government agencies to better enforce existing gun laws.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/31/politics/obama-to-announce-new-executive-action-on-guns/

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Re: Obama to announce new executive action on guns
« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2015, 03:42:26 PM »
American views on guns are antisocial and undemocratic.

This cannot be disputed.

They are a relic from a colonial era long gone.

I find comfort in the fact that most gun deaths are suicides.

Those Americans are predominantly Christian and republican.

This is a profound source of social change in America.

Best of all a ban on assault weapons will have no effect on these suicides.

America. Fuck yeah.

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Re: Obama to announce new executive action on guns
« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2015, 03:46:14 PM »
American views on guns are antisocial and undemocratic.

This cannot be disputed.

They are a relic from a colonial era long gone.

I find comfort in the fact that most gun deaths are suicides.

Those Americans are predominantly Christian and republican.


This is a profound source of social change in America.

Best of all a ban on assault weapons will have no effect on these suicides.

America. Fuck yeah.

Did you read this somewhere? 

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Re: Obama to announce new executive action on guns
« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2015, 03:48:34 PM »
Sorry but the POTUS cannot make decrees from the oval office that are unconstitutional
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Re: Obama to announce new executive action on guns
« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2015, 03:49:06 PM »

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Re: Obama to announce new executive action on guns
« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2015, 03:56:42 PM »

https://www.ucdmc.ucdavis.edu/publish/news/newsroom/9562


Whitemerica is killing itself off.

I perused the link.  Which part says most of the gun deaths are Christian Republicans who commit suicide?

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Re: Obama to announce new executive action on guns
« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2015, 04:45:11 PM »
I perused the link.  Which part says most of the gun deaths are Christian Republicans who commit suicide?


Deductive reasoning regarding the increase in white males who are predominantly republican and Christian...


Do I need to show my math here or can I simply present intelligent rhetoric?



Now should you happen to be a republican Christian with a gun who has started hating life... Please pm me. You're worth saving. I mean real saving. Not fake Jesus-Santa-Unicorn-Wonderland saving.

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Re: Obama to announce new executive action on guns
« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2015, 04:54:26 PM »

Deductive reasoning regarding the increase in white males who are predominantly republican and Christian...


Do I need to show my math here or can I simply present intelligent rhetoric?



Now should you happen to be a republican Christian with a gun who has started hating life... Please pm me. You're worth saving. I mean real saving. Not fake Jesus-Santa-Unicorn-Wonderland saving.

I'd like to see your math, from the ink you provided, in support of your claim that most suicides in the United States are Republican Christians. 

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Re: Obama to announce new executive action on guns
« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2015, 05:41:24 PM »
I'd like to see your math, from the ink you provided, in support of your claim that most suicides in the United States are Republican Christians. 


I'd like to see honest math for all the republican horsehsit that's supported on this board.

When I do you can count on me to match it.

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Re: Obama to announce new executive action on guns
« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2015, 05:57:25 PM »

I'd like to see honest math for all the republican horsehsit that's supported on this board.

When I do you can count on me to match it.

I see.  It's pretty apparent you just made that statistic up.  It's fine to have whatever opinion you want.  Just don't try and act like it's supported by anything other than your "deductive reasoning."  It's certainly not supported by the link you provided.   

Happy New Year.  I hope you see better days in Canada and can deal with your America envy a little better.   :)

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Re: Obama to announce new executive action on guns
« Reply #10 on: December 31, 2015, 05:59:55 PM »
I see.  It's pretty apparent you just made that statistic up.  It's fine to have whatever opinion you want.  Just don't try and act like it's supported by anything other than your "deductive reasoning."  It's certainly not supported by the link you provided.   

Happy New Year.  I hope you see better days in Canada and can deal with your America envy a little better.   :)

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Re: Obama to announce new executive action on guns
« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2016, 12:44:45 AM »
articled is 2500 words, and they can't describe anything about what will actually be covered.

just how mad everyone is.  super.

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Obama to impose new gun control curbs next week
« Reply #12 on: January 01, 2016, 08:01:30 AM »
HONOLULU — President Obama will meet with Attorney General Loretta E. Lynch on Monday to finalize a set of executive actions on guns that he will unveil next week, according to several individuals briefed on the matter.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/01/01/obama-to-impose-new-gun-control-curbs-next-week/

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Re: Obama to announce new executive action on guns
« Reply #14 on: January 01, 2016, 09:28:42 AM »
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Re: Obama to announce new executive action on guns
« Reply #15 on: January 01, 2016, 01:54:01 PM »
American views on guns are antisocial and undemocratic.

This cannot be disputed.

They are a relic from a colonial era long gone.

I find comfort in the fact that most gun deaths are suicides.

Those Americans are predominantly Christian and republican.

This is a profound source of social change in America.

Best of all a ban on assault weapons will have no effect on these suicides.

America. Fuck yeah.


From the bottom of my coal black heart you can go fuck yourself.

the 2nd Amendment protects us from folks like Obama and the libs...and godbless the fucking NRA...not one inch on anything. But if you would like...come try and take my guns....after we're done I'll feed you to the dogs.
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Re: Obama to announce new executive action on guns
« Reply #16 on: January 01, 2016, 03:11:40 PM »

From the bottom of my coal black heart you can go fuck yourself.

the 2nd Amendment protects us from folks like Obama and the libs...and godbless the fucking NRA...not one inch on anything. But if you would like...come try and take my guns....after we're done I'll feed you to the dogs.

Your romantic advances aside...

The 2nd amendment is an outdated vestige of a colonial society. Your creative reading of it is incongruent with your literal interpretation of the English language translation of the 43rd re-write of the New Testament.

I want you to keep your guns so that you will keep killing yourselves and each other.

I agree that more guns means a better America. For everyone else you see...

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Re: Obama to announce new executive action on guns
« Reply #17 on: January 01, 2016, 03:59:16 PM »
what changes will be made?   articles are all so vague.

in anything else, that kind of vagueness would be unacceptable.

but everyone loses their heads now.  Last time this happened, it ended up being closing a loophole about letting felons buy full-auto or something.

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Re: Obama to announce new executive action on guns
« Reply #18 on: January 04, 2016, 11:15:49 AM »
Obama meeting with AG on gun control actions, faces GOP backlash
Published January 04, 2016
FoxNews.com

President Obama is sitting down Monday with top law enforcement officials to review and finalize new executive actions aimed at tightening the country’s gun laws – a push that Republicans on Capitol Hill and the campaign trail are calling a “dangerous” overreach.

The president lit a fire under the gun control debate last week when he and his aides announced White House plans to kick off the new year with executive action on gun rules. Obama plans to meet Monday afternoon with Attorney General Loretta Lynch, FBI Director James Comey and other top officials to work out those plans.

At the top of the list is an effort to expand background checks on gun sales by forcing more sellers to register as federally licensed gun dealers. The changes would be aimed at some unregistered sellers who skirt the background check laws by selling at gun shows, online or informal settings. Other moves being considered include improving reporting of lost and stolen weapons and beefing up inspections of licensed dealers, according to a person familiar with the plans.

The package includes measures this White House has long considered but not completed, mindful of the legal fight sure to follow as well as the potential for political backlash for some fellow Democrats.

Ahead of the meeting, Republicans made clear they would fight the administration and accused the president of overstepping.

"While we don’t yet know the details of the plan, the president is at minimum subverting the legislative branch, and potentially overturning its will,” House Speaker Paul Ryan, R-Wis., said in a statement. “This is a dangerous level of executive overreach, and the country will not stand for it.”

Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump vowed to reverse any such actions if he’s elected.

"We're not changing the Second Amendment," Trump said Saturday at a campaign rally in Biloxi, Miss. "I will veto that. I will un-sign that so fast."

But supporters of stronger action on gun control applauded the president’s new push.

"We definitely think there are things he can do," said Dan Gross, president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, which advocates for expanding background checks. Gross says his recent conversations with White House aides have left him hopeful.

"It's very clear that the White House is feeling emboldened," he said.

Obama announced the meeting with Lynch in his weekly address from his Hawaii holiday vacation. On Thursday, he'll take his argument to prime time, participating in a town hall discussion of gun violence on CNN. He's slated to make his case for changes in his State of the Union address on Jan. 12.

The high-profile rollout reflects a White House continuing to look for ways to wrap up unfinished business, despite an uncooperative Congress.

After all but ignoring the issue in his first term, Obama changed course after the mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary in December 2012. Nevertheless, the president failed to push a package of gun measures through Congress, including one expanding background checks.

At the same time, Obama took nearly two dozen executive actions to tighten gun laws, but left a major expansion of background checks out of the mix.

But after the shooting at a community college in Roseburg, Oregon in October, Obama ordered his staff to redouble the effort to look for ways to work around Congress.

Under current law, federally licensed firearms dealers are required to seek background checks on potential firearm purchasers. But advocacy groups say many sellers are currently exempt from having to register, increasing the chance of sales to customers prohibited by law from purchasing a gun.

The administration is expected to reclassify some of those dealers using a mix of criteria, such as the number and frequency of guns sold, whether sellers profit off sales, whether they advertise, rent space or tables at gun shows and pay taxes.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/01/04/obama-meeting-with-ag-on-gun-control-actions-faces-gop-backlash.html?intcmp=hpbt2

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Re: Obama to announce new executive action on guns
« Reply #19 on: January 04, 2016, 01:19:56 PM »
LOL what is the exact changes we are going to see?  It's been WEEK OF THIS BITCHING, and now I'm hearing "better background checks"

Are you freaking kidding me?  I expected assault weapon bans, ammo spiking 5000% in price... instead it it "fewer felon a-holes can buy guns from a trunk at walmart parking lots"?

Pathetic fearmongering.

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Re: Obama to announce new executive action on guns
« Reply #20 on: January 04, 2016, 01:30:12 PM »
Your romantic advances aside...

The 2nd amendment is an outdated vestige of a colonial society. Your creative reading of it is incongruent with your literal interpretation of the English language translation of the 43rd re-write of the New Testament.

I want you to keep your guns so that you will keep killing yourselves and each other.

I agree that more guns means a better America. For everyone else you see...


I mean it...go fuck yourself...better yet come get mine. You pussies always just stop short of that don't u
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Re: Obama to announce new executive action on guns
« Reply #21 on: January 04, 2016, 01:32:05 PM »
LOL what is the exact changes we are going to see?  It's been WEEK OF THIS BITCHING, and now I'm hearing "better background checks"

Are you freaking kidding me?  I expected assault weapon bans, ammo spiking 5000% in price... instead it it "fewer felon a-holes can buy guns from a trunk at walmart parking lots"?

Pathetic fearmongering.

How does it start 240? Just like this...you're an idiot if u can't see that
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Re: Obama to announce new executive action on guns
« Reply #22 on: January 04, 2016, 03:11:05 PM »
How does it start 240? Just like this...you're an idiot if u can't see that

for 7 years i've been hearing how obama is taking our guns.

he's a lame duck with executive power and his big move is... better background checks. 

that's it?  7 years of yelling about obama taking our guns, and he's going to bring us faster background checks that mean crazy people with warrants in TX can't drive to NM to buy a rifle? 

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Re: Obama to announce new executive action on guns
« Reply #23 on: January 04, 2016, 03:11:22 PM »

I mean it...go fuck yourself...better yet come get mine. You pussies always just stop short of that don't u


Meltdown

Grow up lol...

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Re: Obama to announce new executive action on guns
« Reply #24 on: January 04, 2016, 03:50:26 PM »
fuck off...stop commenting about shit that doesn't matter to you...your Canadian right...again fuck off
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