Obama to announce new executive action on guns

[tonymctones]

The Devil will be in the details here.  so far, from what i read that you posted, most of this is unnecessary and not impacting the real problems.  Even CNN seemed to say  this morning that this is political BS about OB's legacy.

Is it time to panic yet oz? Can we get upset now?

[headhuntersix]

SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED......in other news my Jan ammo order came in. Order now before 223 becomes impossible to get for a few months

[tonymctones]

Bought a Kriss vector a while back, glad I got in before the rush

[avxo]

Of course....might hate watching shitbag libs spout all kinds of bullshit but its protected so have at it.....

I'm glad to hear that. Kudos.

[Kazan]

The logic of the POTUS

[andreisdaman]

You didn't prove anything.  I have never claimed the sheer number of executive orders means anything.  It's the substance of those orders that matter.

oh brother ..changing the content of discussion to suit your argument...you have constantly pontificated that Obama is an emperor and uses his exec order powers to rule over the U.S. by decree....then I start a thread with stats that PROVE that this is simply not so and that MANY OTHER presidents have done the same thing in numbers that FAR EXCEED what Obama has done.....GEORGE BUSH HIMSELF did the same and circumvented congress many times YET...no word from the peanut gallery (of which you are a part) about that....

NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN, instead of admitting you were wrong in designating Obama as an emperor (as I proved your hypothesis wrong) Now we switch the argument to the CONTENT of those exec orders....

you never cease to amaze, oh great pontificator

[Dos Equis]

oh brother ..changing the content of discussion to suit your argument...you have constantly pontificated that Obama is an emperor and uses his exec order powers to rule over the U.S. by decree....then I start a thread with stats that PROVE that this is simply not so and that MANY OTHER presidents have done the same thing in numbers that FAR EXCEED what Obama has done.....GEORGE BUSH HIMSELF did the same and circumvented congress many times YET...no word from the peanut gallery (of which you are a part) about that....

NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN, instead of admitting you were wrong in designating Obama as an emperor (as I proved your hypothesis wrong) Now we switch the argument to the CONTENT of those exec orders....

you never cease to amaze, oh great pontificator

I haven't changed anything.  I haven't admitted anything.  Obama does think he is an emperor and, as today shows, is still trying to act like an emperor.  He doesn't respect the separation of powers.  That's why he has been repeatedly checked by the courts.

Trying to do some kind of numerical tally of executive orders is simplistic and precisely the kind of tactic I expect from an Obamabot.   

[andreisdaman]

I haven't changed anything.  I haven't admitted anything.  Obama does think he is an emperor and, as today shows, is still trying to act like an emperor.  He doesn't respect the separation of powers.  That's why he has been repeatedly checked by the courts.

Trying to do some kind of numerical tally of executive orders is simplistic and precisely the kind of tactic I expect from an Obamabot.   

again simply amazing......and you're supposed to be a mod at that...very disappointing

[Dos Equis]

again simply amazing......and you're supposed to be a mod at that...very disappointing

 

[andreisdaman]

 

[avxo]

No matter which side of the debate you fall on this Onion article explaining how background checks work is great:

• Step 1: Second Amendment rights violated.
• Step 2: Applicant uses Form 4473 to lie about previous drug use.
• Step 3: Records of applicant’s felony history submitted for review if state of South Carolina feels like it.
• Step 4: Close friends and family are interviewed by federal agents in order to understand the buyer’s true sense of identity—their hopes, their dreams, their fears, and their general perception of their core essence or “self”—a deeper insight that no set of paper forms could ever achieve.
• Step 5: Applicant fills out lengthy form detailing their mental health history and future.
• Step 6: Proprietor of Carson’s Pawn & Guns entrusted with entering buyer’s info into federal Criminal Background Check System.
• Step 7: FBI shamans check the buyer for any spiritual health issues during a two-day ayahuasca ceremony.
• Step 8: Anyone seeking to buy a military grade automatic weapon or assault rifle is required to wait until the firearm dealer unlocks the case and hands it to them.
• Step 9: Any applicant who is denied from purchasing a weapon at a Federal Firearms Licensee attends a regional gun show.
• Step 10: Customer politely thanked for choosing to purchase firearm through legal means.

[JOHN MATRIX]

The logic of the POTUS

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[OzmO]

Is it time to panic yet oz? Can we get upset now?

No chicken little, read the fine print.

No one is taking your guns.

You can still buy guns.

 

[tonymctones]

No chicken little, read the fine print.

No one is taking your guns.

You can still buy guns.

 

Hmm so before it was we can't get upset bc he hasn't done anything yet and now although he has done something we can't get upset bc he isn't taking away guns even though he has created a plan in the past in which it would....when oz when?

[OzmO]

Hmm so before it was we can't get upset bc he hasn't done anything yet and now although he has done something we can't get upset bc he isn't taking away guns even though he has created a plan in the past in which it would....when oz when?

Are you still able to buy a gun Tony?   Has anyone come to take your guns?

[headhuntersix]

Bought a Kriss vector a while back, glad I got in before the rush

No shit....the 9mm one?  How do u like it

[headhuntersix]

Are you still able to buy a gun Tony?   Has anyone come to take your guns?

baby steps O.....baby steps.  Ammo taxes are next.

[tonymctones]

No shit....the 9mm one?  How do u like it

No I got the .45, I actually haven't shot it yet. I got the pistol and I'm in the process of getting a tax stamp to turn it into an sbr. It's a big unwieldy pistol but should make a real nice sbr, I'll let you know when I shoot it

[headhuntersix]

That thing will do some damage. Its a weird gun but friggen cool. Did u get an SBR cool guy stock? I was screwing around with one at the Texas gun festival (gotta love texas) it makes the that weapon very functional.....plus a red dot and suppressor. I'll stop spending your money

[tonymctones]

That thing will do some damage. Its a weird gun but friggen cool. Did u get an SBR cool guy stock? I was screwing around with one at the Texas gun festival (gotta love texas) it makes the that weapon very functional.....plus a red dot and suppressor. I'll stop spending your money

Haha I got the original stock from Kriss I know they make an adapter that will allow you to put an ar style tube stock on it but I kinda like the look of the original one.

You're telling me, I have a glock 21 so I can interchange mags but now I need a suppressor for sure and another red dot....lots of money but sure damn fun

[OzmO]

baby steps O.....baby steps.  Ammo taxes are next.

Baby steps to what?  The 2nd amendment is too much ingrained into our identity as a nation.  You will see regulation come a go, but the day when a law abiding citizen can't buy or own a gun becuase the 2nd amendment is repealled isn't coming anytime soon

[Dos Equis]

Are you still able to buy a gun Tony?   Has anyone come to take your guns?

That depends.  Is he trying to buy a gun from a private seller who is now considered a "gun dealer"? 

[Kazan]

'84

[TuHolmes]

The logic of the POTUS

No matter what you think, this is very meaningful.

[OzmO]

That depends.  Is he trying to buy a gun from a private seller who is now considered a "gun dealer"? 

I haven't read the details of the new laws or executive orders, or reinforcement of whatever laws they are called yet.

But can a person buy a gun from a private seller now?