Oppressed white farmers occupy federal building in Oregon

[Pray_4_War]

because it is perverse

Sweet Jeezus dude.  I hope you at least make sense to yourself.  lol.

[The Scott]

I did not allocate blame

Yes, yes you did.  Your words, not mine.

Thank you.

[B_B_C]

Sweet Jeezus dude.  I hope you at least make sense to yourself.  lol.

why are you so defensive about what I said ?

[B_B_C]

Yes, yes you did.  Your words, not mine.

Thank you.

these were my words :

a group of adults clearly carrying real guns with presumably live ammunition take hold of government property (reportedly in support of a group of recently convicted arsonists) allow themselves to be interviewed  by TV and other media while resisting removal by government forces (who seemingly facilitate such interviews even when claiming the offending occupants are terrorists.
So far nobody has been injured let alone killed
There is a perversity in a society that practices such forbearance yet was not able to afford any degree of patience to a 12 year old child playing with a toy gun by himself in a playground

[The Scott]

these were my words :

There is a perversity in a society that practices such forbearance yet was not able to afford any degree of patience to a 12 year old child playing with a toy gun by himself in a playground

Contained within the above pull quote  is a definite inference of that which you deny.  It is not veiled in the least.  If  you say you did not mean it, then fine.  You did not mean it. 

But you still said it and I remarked upon it.

[Pray_4_War]

why are you so defensive about what I said ?

I love that tactic.  Although it usually is "why are you so angry".

Look broseph I don't know what you are construing as being defensive.  I just didn't care for your juxtaposition.  Maybe you'd feel better if I added some smiley faces to my posts.

 

[240 is Back]

Having guns with presumably live ammo is a moot point. This is the United states and that is completely legal and one of our constitutional rights.

carrying a gun wihle committing a felony is a big deal.  another decade in FL, i believe.

[B_B_C]

Contained within the above pull quote  is a definite inference of that which you deny.  It is not veiled in the least.  If  you say you did not mean it, then fine.  You did not mean it. 

But you still said it and I remarked upon it.

Perhaps we do not understand each other. I mean perverse as in incongruous, odd,  inconsistent

[Pray_4_War]

I'm not angry nor do I think you are and yes I can see you don't like the juxtaposition. Perhaps as an outsider I have no right to make such observations? 

You have every right to make any observation that you want.  I wasn't offended, I just disagreed with your inference. 

[timfogarty]

quoting a tweet:

Today I learned:
plural of armed black people is thugs
plural of armed brown people is terrorists
plural of armed white people is militia

[Pray_4_War]

quoting a tweet:

Today I learned:
plural of armed black people is thugs
plural of armed brown people is terrorists
plural of armed white people is militia

That is funny, but it's hard to find fault with those definitions.  They are pretty accurate.

[TuHolmes]

quoting a tweet:

Today I learned:
plural of armed black people is thugs
plural of armed brown people is terrorists
plural of armed white people is militia

I get the premise, but why doesn't the "Liberal" media use a different term since they supposedly love Muslims so much and are trying to bring about the downfall of the white race...

I'm sure you get what I'm saying.

[240 is Back]

I get the premise, but why doesn't the "Liberal" media use a different term since they supposedly love Muslims so much and are trying to bring about the downfall of the white race...

I'm sure you get what I'm saying.

ABC news taking major heat today for calling these folks peaceful protesters.

[mr.turbo]

quoting a tweet:

Today I learned:
plural of armed black people is thugs
plural of armed brown people is terrorists
plural of armed white people is militia

now trending on twitter

#vanillaISIS
#Yallqaeda

[TuHolmes]

now trending on twitter

#vanillaISIS
#Yallqaeda

Haha... Ok, those are good.

[B_B_C]

You have every right to make any observation that you want.  I wasn't offended, I just disagreed with your inference. 

I wasn't making any or intending to make any inference or juxtaposition (that is a very big word for this sight) by virtue of race, colour, ethnicity or even sexual orientation. The events  are separated by distance and time but perhaps more significantly united by predictive reactions illustrating an inability or reluctance to think beyond the status quo

[Pray_4_War]

I wasn't making any or intending to make any inference or juxtaposition (that is a very big word for this sight) by virtue of race, colour, ethnicity or even sexual orientation. The events  are separated by distance and time but perhaps more significantly united by predictive reactions illustrating an inability or reluctance to think beyond the status quo

I think you were, and are.  Hence, you circle back again to how the events are united in this very post.

I'm confused as to why you are hesitant to take ownership of the point you most certainly were trying to make.  The point contained in the post that originally sparked my reply to you.  It's not as though there was anything wrong with what you said, I simply disagreed.  I don't condemn you for your opinion.  Yet I find you trying to mince words and blur the lines of our subtle disagreement to the point that it can no longer be simply understood.  This is not necessary.  It's become an exercise in rhetoric.  A repetitive waste of time.

[mr.turbo]

I wasn't making any or intending to make any inference or juxtaposition (that is a very big word for this sight) by virtue of race, colour, ethnicity or even sexual orientation. The events  are separated by distance and time but perhaps more significantly united by predictive reactions illustrating an inability or reluctance to think beyond the status quo

oh brother, don't bother with the wackjobs

what you say makes perfect sense if you can accept that racism actually exists "in society". The double standard is obvious because the same idiots will turn around and make all kinds of generalizations about every other ethnic group.

Does it have anything to do with this situation? the DOJ is on record stating law enforcement and media react differently to right wing terrorists. Going so far as to allocate special resources to remedy the problem.

So ya it's official and it's also a simple thing to comprehend for civilized people.

[SquidVicious]

This is so much more than taking over a building. This is a challenge to the current administration to see if they have the stones to forcibly take on gun-owners and if so, how much bloodshed and death they're willing to accept. Because if they call in the national guard or SWAT to try to take back that building by force, there will be hundreds of casualties. I believe the military and police would be reluctant to step in as neither supports the current commander in chief. This is a big fuck you to Obama and basically calling him a giant pussy, which he is. I suspect he'll overreact and show everyone what a mandatory confiscation of guns will look like: A bloodbath that results in the US government backing down.

[TuHolmes]

Is it over reaction to take back a government building?

I'm not for any gun control, but what these are doing is going to end poorly for them and they will have no one to blame but themselves.

If they all got shot up, it would suck, but I wouldn't be able to say they were "wronged".

Would you?

[timfogarty]

I suspect he'll overreact and show everyone what a mandatory confiscation of guns will look like: A bloodbath that results in the US government backing down.

based on how he reacted regarding the Bundy Ranch standoff, he'll not give him the attention that they want, they'll sit for a week or two, get bored and go home.  then a week or two later, indictments will be served and they'll be charged with illegal possession of firearms in a federal building.

[SOMEPARTS]

Anybody remember this?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Wisconsin_protests

The people "owned" those buildings at that protest. I thought it might get ugly there but it didn't.

So the issue here is that they have guns? I find it interesting that seems to be the only issue at a time when that is the only thing Ol Bammer is worried about coming back from vacation. We have made our politicians kings by not paying attention. Not only do I not trust the news to report events anymore, I don't even trust the events, haha.

And....these folks better remember Waco.

[240 is Back]

The federal govt let these folks- bundys son- get away with pointing guns at federal agents in 2014.   So they grew bold, and now they're seizing property and threatening murder.  

Maybe the govt was too soft on them last time?  I don't care your reason- if you purposely point a gun at a fed, you should face some charges. 

[240 is Back]

Their demands?  Release he fed lands for mining, cattle and other purposes. 

It's bout profit.  Cash.  Giving govt handouts to their private companies. 

They didn't get arrested for pointing guns at fbi in 2014, so they got braver. 

[MANGOOS]

So how many shops were robbed, destroyed?
How many people were injured or killed?