Oppressed white farmers occupy federal building in Oregon

[SF1900]

I always thought there was a ban on automatic weapons. Is this correct?

[andreisdaman]

Tamir Rice. bad situation all around. I personally feel the kid shouldn't have been shot but I could see how they mistook his " toy " for a real gun. I think the cops overreacted but the kid removed the orange plug out the barrel and was pointed it at people in the park , a lot of failure on all ends. The cops shouldn't have just rolled up on him like that either

I think this picture says a lot

You make a good point that I think has been overlooked......How the cops rolled up on Tamir Rice is to me an indication that they KNEW he was just a kid...they rolled up very close to him showing absolutely no fear.....if he were an adult I sincerely doubt they would have come up so close to him

[mr.turbo]

You think your dismissive post proves that these peasants with basic firearms didn't hold off the American war machine for years?  Keep trying kid.

look as much as I admire your work on other matters. you're off base here.  

please remain open to new sources of information with regard to this subject!  

[NarcissisticDeity]

I always thought there was a ban on automatic weapons. Is this correct?

No , hell you could mail order them back in the day. They still aren't " banned " you can get them but they are so cost prohibitive that most can't afford them. a NFA full auto M16 will cost you about $20K a semi-automatic AR15 can be had for about $600

[SF1900]

You think your dismissive post proves that these peasants with basic firearms didn't hold off the American war machine for years?  Keep trying kid.

Times have changed.

Average American

[andreisdaman]

Times have changed.

Average American

Agreed...this guy doesn't have a drop of Testosterone in him

[NarcissisticDeity]

Times have changed.

Average American

Fucking Millennials 

[SF1900]

No , hell you could mail order them back in the day. They still aren't " banned " you can get them but they are so cost prohibitive that most can't afford them. a NFA full auto M16 will cost you about $20K a semi-automatic AR15 can be had for about $600

From google:

"Machine guns are not illegal, but it is illegal to make and register new ones on a form 1 (as you would do for an SBR) There is no way around the May 19th, 1986 date. If the machine gun in question was made after that date, you may not own it (unless you are a dealer)May 21, 2014."

Can you explain what this means, especially the part where it says, "you may not own it (unless you are a dealer)." But isnt the point of being a dealer is to sell?

[NarcissisticDeity]

$25K 

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=535202158

[SF1900]

Fucking Millennials 

Eventually, when the old school people die off, we will be left with this. Good luck getting him to defend against a tyrannical government.

[NarcissisticDeity]

From google:

"Machine guns are not illegal, but it is illegal to make and register new ones on a form 1 (as you would do for an SBR) There is no way around the May 19th, 1986 date. If the machine gun in question was made after that date, you may not own it (unless you are a dealer)May 21, 2014."

Can you explain what this means, especially the part where it says, "you may not own it (unless you are a dealer)." But isnt the point of being a dealer is to sell?

You can make brand new full auto guns if you're a dealer/manufacturer but transferring them is a no-no. 

[LurkerNoMore]

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[SF1900]

You can make brand new full auto guns if you're a dealer/manufacturer but transferring them is a no-no. 

Gotcha. Thanks.

I was always under the assumption that automatic weapons were banned.

Machine gun for $1450.00

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=535578188#PIC

[timfogarty]

You are off track, the government wasn't running coal mines.

in company towns, the companies were the government.  and the federal government backed them up with the national guard

Your real fear is of people not guns, and you are under the illusion if people do not have access to guns, suddenly they are going to act like upstanding citizens

and many gun owners fears is not the government, but minorities and other "them"

[Kazan]

in company towns, the companies were the government.  and the federal government backed them up with the national guard

and many gun owners fears is not the government, but minorities and other "them"

Ever heard of Posse Comitatus Act?

And it doesn't matter the 2nd amendment is still in the constitution, and as long as it is, people have the right to bear arms.

[TuHolmes]

You can make brand new full auto guns if you're a dealer/manufacturer but transferring them is a no-no. 

Correct.

That's one of the things about the AR-15.

You can make it full auto without too much trouble.

[NarcissisticDeity]

and many gun owners fears is not the government, but minorities and other "them"

Arbiter of truth...tell me more  stop projecting what you think " many gun owners fear " I have no fear of a legal person owning a gun and " minorities " can get them illegally or legally , your argument holds no water.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Correct.

That's one of the things about the AR-15.

You can make it full auto without too much trouble.

Or close to with a bump-fire or binary trigger

[TuHolmes]

Or close to with a bump-fire or binary trigger

True.

Even without it, we're talking about way more rounds per minute than I will need.

It's a great weapon.

[mr.turbo]

You think your dismissive post proves that these peasants with basic firearms didn't hold off the American war machine for years?  Keep trying kid.

The countries were all destroyed militarily, millions of people died. Is this in dispute? The political "victories" (NOT MILITARY) are Vietnam turned communist, while Iraq and Afghanistan are now ruled by religious fanatics. So let me know how the guns fit into this fairytale scenario...

[NarcissisticDeity]

The countries were all destroyed militarily, millions of people died. Is this in dispute? The political "victories" (NOT MILITARY) are Vietnam turned communist, while Iraq and Afghanistan are now ruled by religious fanatics. So let me know how the guns fit into this fairytale scenario...

Irrelevant , people who claim U.S citizens wouldn't stand a chance against the military are ignorant. 

[El Diablo Blanco]

Irrelevant , people who claim U.S citizens wouldn't stand a chance against the military are ignorant. 

You've heard of drones, tanks and Jet fighters correct?  The US military could glass a whole neighborhood with one drone strike.  You wouldn't see an actual soldier until all of the airstrikes took out all key buildings and infrastructure.  This is not Call of Duty where you walk around shooting people.

[mr.turbo]

Irrelevant , people who claim U.S citizens wouldn't stand a chance against the military are ignorant. 

why do you think this!?

[TuHolmes]

You've heard of drones, tanks and Jet fighters correct?  The US military could glass a whole neighborhood with one drone strike.  You wouldn't see an actual soldier until all of the airstrikes took out all key buildings and infrastructure.  This is not Call of Duty where you walk around shooting people.

Destroying a neighborhood like that would only cause all 300 million people in the US to take action.

While they do have advanced weaponry, in the end, they would lose.

People of the land will never quit, that's the reason why the Soviets couldn't win in Afghanistan and the US can't continue to stay in Iraq.

[SF1900]

You've heard of drones, tanks and Jet fighters correct?  The US military could glass a whole neighborhood with one drone strike.  You wouldn't see an actual soldier until all of the airstrikes took out all key buildings and infrastructure.  This is not Call of Duty where you walk around shooting people.

The question is: Would the military take up arms against the citizen? Or would the military join "our" side? Same thing with cops.