Sorry, Shizz, but these are the kinda posts that illustrate your absolute ignorance of weight training. To the extent that you truly disrespect long, good standing, lifelong lifters on this board.
Lifting/training/bodybuilding has NEVER been about where you ultimately end up musclewise x years later. But your posts make it painfully clear you couldn't possibly understand this. Lifting HAS ALWAYS been about doing/feeling better that day, that week, that month.
These guys - aj, chaos, and everyone else you disrespect with your misguided critiques - they don't train for how they will measure up thirty years from day one; no one does. The fact that you suggest this simply belies your utter obliviousness to what training is really about. These guys LOOK and FEEL better every single time they enter the gym and progress even the slightest bit, which is obviously beyond you by your own admission. Lotsa balls cutting 'em down for such pettiness, pal.
Do you have any idea how amazing these guys felt/feel after every attained micro/macro - strength, size, conditioning, whathaveyou? How could you, right? The magic of bodybuilding is that you're succeeding in some way EVERY SINGLE TIME you train. And we/they feel said accomplishments daily; we see it on the scale, in the mirror, at the end of a set, etc. - How on earth do you think we maintain the passion?
Bodybuilding has always been a workout by workout endeavor, and each session offers results encouraging enough that we continue to pursue. Again, you make it blatantly obvious that you've never put in the time or effort to hardly grasp what we share here in that regard. aj, chaos, and so many other have looked and felt like a million bucks day-in-and-day-out for YEARS (what you fail to comprehend) specifically as a result of the training that you so casually dismiss as pointless.
Friend, you haven't the slightest clue: IT'S ABOUT THE LIFTING. THE PROGRESS, HOWEVER SLIGHT. THE PASSION TO FOLLOW UP THE NEXT DAY. They've felt better every single day of their training years than you've ever felt in your whole life - precisely because of the weights. Please, sir, don't criticize what you can't possibly understand.
Just to clarify, not at all intending to bash Shizzo just for the sake of it (not my style, Shaun, we're usually fine), but this shit is SO out of line on a bodybuilding site, especially when you admittedly refuse to partake. Won't say you owe them an apology, but it'd certainly be big of you.
Passionate meltdown.
First, glad to have you back, and hope that you are feeling better.
Second, an apology? It aint that serious my friend. I dont have any issues with Chaos, AJ, or anyone else here. They give me shit, I give them shit, and then we are all supposed to laugh about it.
Third, this thread wasnt to support people being fatasses, or settling for anything. I was simply trying to state that having some extra bodyfat (gave pic as examples) isnt the health concern some of you may think it is. I also pointed out that may be less healthy to diet to extreme bodyfat levels, and overtrain.
Lastly, I absolutely respect people who embrace fitness as a lifestyle, as long as they don't overdue things to the detriment of their health. By the way, I started training and eating healthier this week, so I am not just blowing hot air. I plan tp walk the walk, one workout at a time (touche)
Again, glad to have you back.