Trump is gonna win: massive crowd in Mass

[240 is Back]

Liberal northeast loves this dude.  Repubs, this is your fault.  You had 6 months to shout him down as a liberal, a plant, an immature ass that mocks handicapped and doesn't like POWs because they got caught.

You just sat quiet while he rose in the polls, you just played it safe in case he won.  Well, he's going to.  Don't blame msnbc for it... blame yourselves.   Look at this insane crowds.  it's obama II.  I'm a huge cruz fan, but this seems inevitable now.  He still has billions to spend.  it's 29 degrees and trump started late, and this is packed.



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[JOHN MATRIX]

said there were people waiting outside in the snow in an hour long line to get in too

[LurkerNoMore]

I sort of really want him to win.   The entertainment value alone would be priceless. 

[James]

Liberal northeast loves this dude.  Repubs, this is your fault.  You had 6 months to shout him down as a liberal, a plant, an immature ass that mocks handicapped and doesn't like POWs because they got caught.

You just sat quiet while he rose in the polls, you just played it safe in case he won.  Well, he's going to.  Don't blame msnbc for it... blame yourselves.   Look at this insane crowds.  it's obama II.  I'm a huge cruz fan, but this seems inevitable now.  He still has billions to spend.  it's 29 degrees and trump started late, and this is packed.



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I am voting Cruz but if Trump gets it (and it looks like he will) I am good with it, as it will at the very least stop the GOP Washington Establishment and the Liberals that have teamed up to spend this County into bankruptcy and are do nothing to stop the the 3rd world invasion that is destroying us, in fact they are doing just the opposite by pushing for Amnesty.

[headhuntersix]

Well this board won't know what to do.....some of us will attack him on the right for shit...the lefties will attack him for other shit and eventually we'll find common ground to attack the guy. It will be discovery learning everyday with this idiot.

[240 is Back]

Well this board won't know what to do.....some of us will attack him on the right for shit...the lefties will attack him for other shit and eventually we'll find common ground to attack the guy. It will be discovery learning everyday with this idiot.

LOL   it's one of those things... people don't care much for his plans... they just want to watch the shit show.

[headhuntersix]

We can't afford the shit show and here's the issue I have with this...the nationalist in me will applaude a wall like the one in Escape from New York. I'll enjoy watching these people get rounded up and sent back to their 3rd world shitholes. I'll enjoy watching Trump telling Putin to go fuck himself and then deploying the 1AD to Ukraine. The rational Constitutionalist knows full fucking well what goes around comes around and we cannot in any way shape or form allow another President to blow off the Constitution regardless of whether I agree with the issues he's blowing off. I may be wrong but most of us crackpot rightwing loons here would agree and will look on in horror if Trump does some of this shit. That is the difference between us and you leftwingers. I want a good American president...not a UN stooge lefty that hates the country he leads. If gooddam Jim Webb became president I would not mind. 

[240 is Back]

We can't afford the shit show and here's the issue I have with this...the nationalist in me will applaude a wall like the one in Escape from New York. I'll enjoy watching these people get rounded up and sent back to their 3rd world shitholes. I'll enjoy watching Trump telling Putin to go fuck himself and then deploying the 1AD to Ukraine. The rational Constitutionalist knows full fucking well what goes around comes around and we cannot in any way shape or form allow another President to blow off the Constitution regardless of whether I agree with the issues he's blowing off. I may be wrong but most of us crackpot rightwing loons here would agree and will look on in horror if Trump does some of this shit. That is the difference between us and you leftwingers. I want a good American president...not a UN stooge lefty that hates the country he leads. If gooddam Jim Webb became president I would not mind. 

Do you truly believe trump will deport 7 or 8% of our population?   

Do you truly believe he'll send 12 or 15 million people - at gunpoint - to tent cities right over the border?  No plumbing, sanitation, electricity...no law... just send 3 year olds and their mommies into the desert to die? 

Gun battles as families refuse to leave.  Tweets of gang rapes in the no-law mexican desert.  Entire cities pressed up against the trump wall.

Do you truly believe there's ANY chance Trump deports?  particularly because, in July 2015, he said those without criminial charges should be allowed to stay?

[polychronopolous]

We can't afford the shit show and here's the issue I have with this...the nationalist in me will applaude a wall like the one in Escape from New York. I'll enjoy watching these people get rounded up and sent back to their 3rd world shitholes. I'll enjoy watching Trump telling Putin to go fuck himself and then deploying the 1AD to Ukraine. The rational Constitutionalist knows full fucking well what goes around comes around and we cannot in any way shape or form allow another President to blow off the Constitution regardless of whether I agree with the issues he's blowing off. I may be wrong but most of us crackpot rightwing loons here would agree and will look on in horror if Trump does some of this shit. That is the difference between us and you leftwingers. I want a good American president...not a UN stooge lefty that hates the country he leads. If gooddam Jim Webb became president I would not mind. 

X2

I could listen to that man tell war stories all day long.

[OzmO]

We can't afford the shit show and here's the issue I have with this...the nationalist in me will applaude a wall like the one in Escape from New York. I'll enjoy watching these people get rounded up and sent back to their 3rd world shitholes. I'll enjoy watching Trump telling Putin to go fuck himself and then deploying the 1AD to Ukraine. The rational Constitutionalist knows full fucking well what goes around comes around and we cannot in any way shape or form allow another President to blow off the Constitution regardless of whether I agree with the issues he's blowing off. I may be wrong but most of us crackpot rightwing loons here would agree and will look on in horror if Trump does some of this shit. That is the difference between us and you leftwingers. I want a good American president...not a UN stooge lefty that hates the country he leads. If gooddam Jim Webb became president I would not mind. 

I don't think i would enjoy seeing someone deploy the 1AD to Ukraine.  That would likely lead to a nuclear war.

[Dos Equis]

We can't afford the shit show and here's the issue I have with this...the nationalist in me will applaude a wall like the one in Escape from New York. I'll enjoy watching these people get rounded up and sent back to their 3rd world shitholes. I'll enjoy watching Trump telling Putin to go fuck himself and then deploying the 1AD to Ukraine. The rational Constitutionalist knows full fucking well what goes around comes around and we cannot in any way shape or form allow another President to blow off the Constitution regardless of whether I agree with the issues he's blowing off. I may be wrong but most of us crackpot rightwing loons here would agree and will look on in horror if Trump does some of this shit. That is the difference between us and you leftwingers. I want a good American president...not a UN stooge lefty that hates the country he leads. If gooddam Jim Webb became president I would not mind. 

He is the only Democrat in the race I would have voted for. 

Regarding the crowd sizes:  lol 

[absfabs]

lets see

community agitator who got into senate becasue of 7 of 9 suing her rich hubby who was obamas opponent, runs up 21T debt from 8T, fucks vets, unionized fedex, hands billions n billions to unemplyable pesudoscience green academic who fail companies like solyandra and saddle business with huge huge price environmental studies, suppress free lections by using IRS against tea party while at same time denying righ tof people to demand ID from acord organized union idiots bussed around voting multiple time stolen 2012 election

or a billionaire successful businessman who created jobs and love USA

[240 is Back]

or a billionaire successful businessman who created jobs and love USA

4 bankruptcies.   LOST more money by spending 40 years in the business world, than he'd have by not touching it for 4 decades.

yeah, he's successful at TV.  Everything else, well, not so much.

[whork]

Does anyone here not like Jim Webb?

He should be the frontrunner.

[JOHN MATRIX]

4 bankruptcies.   LOST more money by spending 40 years in the business world, than he'd have by not touching it for 4 decades.

yeah, he's successful at TV.  Everything else, well, not so much.

hes so bankrupt and inept hes worth multiple billions of dollars and has his name on iconic skyscrapers around the nation

wish I was that bankrupt 

[240 is Back]

hes so bankrupt and inept hes worth multiple billions of dollars and has his name on iconic skyscrapers around the nation

wish I was that bankrupt 

he massively underperformed against the rest of the market.

[Leatherneck]

Does anyone here not like Jim Webb?

He should be the frontrunner.

He should be but he's too close to the center for either party during this election cycle.

[240 is Back]

This week I sat down with a huge obamabot and a palin supporter.  Both had reasons they liked trump.  Both were completey clueless about his positions- they both had vague impressions of toughness and leadership.  Vague keywords.

He wins this nomination easily.  After 2 minutes talking his positions, hey wanted to change topic, and they still liked trump.  People don't care about issues in 2016, they Care about celebrity. Trump is a tv star.  Enjoy that, conservatives. 

[JOHN MATRIX]

he massively underperformed against the rest of the market.

his family had money but they weren't billionaires. TRUMP turned Clinton/Romney-esque millions into multiple Billions...not sure id call that 'underperforming'.

by your standard, the only way he performs 'up to par' is by reaching Gates/Buffet/Bloomberg level wealth??

[Dos Equis]

4 bankruptcies.   LOST more money by spending 40 years in the business world, than he'd have by not touching it for 4 decades.

yeah, he's successful at TV.  Everything else, well, not so much.

This is one of the dumbest things I've ever read on the board. 

[240 is Back]

forbes has trump at 2.90 billion worth.  I know, he keeps claiming 8, then 10, then more than ten... lol

If he had put that $20 mil inheritance in the SP500 mutual and NEVER TOUCHED IT, he would be worth 8 billion today. 

So at BEST, trump spent a lifetime in the business world and managed to get its value to 2.9 billion.  While declaring business bankruptcy 4x along the way.

[JOHN MATRIX]

If he had put that $20 mil inheritance in the SP500 mutual and NEVER TOUCHED IT, he would be worth 8 billion today. 

that's total crap lol..if it were that simple there would be multiple thousands of billionaires today

[Dos Equis]

forbes has trump at 2.90 billion worth.  I know, he keeps claiming 8, then 10, then more than ten... lol

If he had put that $20 mil inheritance in the SP500 mutual and NEVER TOUCHED IT, he would be worth 8 billion today. 

So at BEST, trump spent a lifetime in the business world and managed to get its value to 2.9 billion.  While declaring business bankruptcy 4x along the way.

Holy smokes.   

[240 is Back]

that's total crap lol..if it were that simple there would be multiple thousands of billionaires today

$40 million in 1974 would be 3 billion today - what trump is actually worth.
$200 million would be much much more today.

At BEST, Trump inherited the minimum 40 million and being worth 2.9 billion today, just about broke even.
IF he inherited more, then he underachieved.

EITHER WAY, he claims to be amazing at making deals - but he also claimed last night "i have a lot better IQ than anyone running".   Um, you mean "higher"?    I dunno about 4 bankruptcies either...   When I think BUSINESS, I think mark Cuban or some of those worth billions who built it.  Trump inherited and rode interest then had a tv show that did really well.  he's a tv star that struggled in business, let's be honest.


Donald Trump's inheritance was somewhere between 40 and 200 million in 1974.[2][3] Here's one of those estimates:

Trump took over a $200 million real-estate-development business from his father, Fred Trump, in 1974. Dáte estimates that Trump's share of the empire — he has three siblings — was $40 million.[6]

Since 1974, the S&P 500 is up about 74-fold. So his current claimed net worth of 8.7 billion would equate to about 120 million in 1974, which is right in the middle of estimates of what he inherited.

His performance was very close to that of the market from 1982 to present, and possibly from 1974 to present.
If he spent a small percentage of his net worth each year, it's possible her outperformed the market over time. If his inheritance was at the low end of those estimates, he outperformed more.  It's also possible he received some money from his father prior to that inheritance. If that's true or if his inheritance was at the high end of those estimates, then he underperformed the market.

Another way to look at the data is to assume he inherited $40 million in 1974, at the low end of estimates. If he had invested that $40 million in an S&P 500 index, fund, he'd be worth about 3 billion today — which is in line with third party estimates of 3 and 4 billion today for his net worth.

Regardless, the inescapable conclusion is that a very large percentage of his net worth is the result of inheritance and normal compounding.

[whork]

forbes has trump at 2.90 billion worth.  I know, he keeps claiming 8, then 10, then more than ten... lol

If he had put that $20 mil inheritance in the SP500 mutual and NEVER TOUCHED IT, he would be worth 8 billion today. 

So at BEST, trump spent a lifetime in the business world and managed to get its value to 2.9 billion.  While declaring business bankruptcy 4x along the way.

Interesting.