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Re: Dexter jackson: mutant
« Reply #50 on: January 07, 2016, 04:21:48 PM »
That was way back in the beginning, I'm 99% certain he does cardio now. I also heard a number on his slin use. It was in the hundreds of units.

I think you are so far off in your estimations of what he takes and what those guys gotta take to be that huge!

100's of units of insulin, how fucking naive are you bro?

My brother is a diabetic and if he took 100 units of insulin a day spread out through all of his meals, he'd be in a coma and dead. 100 units of humalog a day would require you to eat at LEAST 800g of carbs a day to not go hypoglycemic. A large dose of humalog for a carbohydrate heavy meal (150g of carbs) for my brother is 15 units. And his pancreas produces NO INSULIN. If he took even 40 units of humalog at once and only ate 100g of carbs(which is still a decent amount of carbs), he'd be rushed to the hospital within 3 hours.

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Re: Dexter jackson: mutant
« Reply #51 on: January 07, 2016, 04:28:46 PM »
100's of units of insulin, how fucking naive are you bro?

My brother is a diabetic and if he took 100 units of insulin a day spread out through all of his meals, he'd be in a coma and dead. 100 units of humalog a day would require you to eat at LEAST 800g of carbs a day to not go hypoglycemic. A large dose of humalog for a carbohydrate heavy meal (150g of carbs) for my brother is 15 units. And his pancreas produces NO INSULIN. If he took even 40 units of humalog at once and only ate 100g of carbs(which is still a decent amount of carbs), he'd be rushed to the hospital within 3 hours.

Bahahaha you fuckin' IDIOT!!!
Keep posting and proving what a dumb ass you are. You are soooo eating out of my hand like a little ant on this one, you have no clue, NONE.

Now go back in the corner you came from....

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Re: Dexter jackson: mutant
« Reply #52 on: January 07, 2016, 05:08:14 PM »
That was way back in the beginning, I'm 99% certain he does cardio now. I also heard a number on his slin use. It was in the hundreds of units.

I think you are so far off in your estimations of what he takes and what those guys gotta take to be that huge!

How many hundreds of units?

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Re: Dexter jackson: mutant
« Reply #53 on: January 07, 2016, 06:11:56 PM »
How many hundreds of units?

was beyond anything ever heard. This is from one of MTL's top coaches, he does not repeat bullshit...
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Re: Dexter jackson: mutant
« Reply #54 on: January 07, 2016, 06:13:26 PM »
Markus will outlive Dexter.

x2

Markus is already actually 100 years old.  He will live to at least 150.

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Re: Dexter jackson: mutant
« Reply #55 on: January 07, 2016, 06:24:12 PM »
100's of units of insulin, how fucking naive are you bro?

My brother is a diabetic and if he took 100 units of insulin a day spread out through all of his meals, he'd be in a coma and dead. 100 units of humalog a day would require you to eat at LEAST 800g of carbs a day to not go hypoglycemic. A large dose of humalog for a carbohydrate heavy meal (150g of carbs) for my brother is 15 units. And his pancreas produces NO INSULIN. If he took even 40 units of humalog at once and only ate 100g of carbs(which is still a decent amount of carbs), he'd be rushed to the hospital within 3 hours.

Small doses of gh will Jack up blood sugar much less the 30 units pros use every day, on low doses you could inject 20iu of slin without eating and feel fine. Get some experience before talking.

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Re: Dexter jackson: mutant
« Reply #56 on: January 07, 2016, 06:32:36 PM »
100's of units of insulin, how fucking naive are you bro?

My brother is a diabetic and if he took 100 units of insulin a day spread out through all of his meals, he'd be in a coma and dead. 100 units of humalog a day would require you to eat at LEAST 800g of carbs a day to not go hypoglycemic. A large dose of humalog for a carbohydrate heavy meal (150g of carbs) for my brother is 15 units. And his pancreas produces NO INSULIN. If he took even 40 units of humalog at once and only ate 100g of carbs(which is still a decent amount of carbs), he'd be rushed to the hospital within 3 hours.









Sad to say it 100iu of insulin is doable
I know at least 2-3 uk amateur BBs who use
That & more.


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Re: Dexter jackson: mutant
« Reply #57 on: January 07, 2016, 06:37:56 PM »
was beyond anything ever heard. This is from one of MTL's top coaches, he does not repeat bullshit...

So many people on this board are so blinded by their trust for their sources that they completely refuse to believe that their sources are just as exploitable as they themselves are.

We read lies on this board every week from people who truly believe they have been told the truth.

And to be clear - I am not disputing your particular claim that you have passed on - I'm disputing that you can know that what the person has told you is not bullshit.  If he doesn't know it is bullshit (and it is remotely plausible), he cannot judge it bullshit.


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« Reply #58 on: January 07, 2016, 06:40:40 PM »
So many people on this board are so blinded by their trust for their sources that they completely refuse to believe that their sources are just as exploitable as they themselves are.

We read lies on this board every week from people who truly believe they have been told the truth.

And to be clear - I am not disputing your particular claim that you have passed on - I'm disputing that you can know that what the person has told you is not bullshit.  If he doesn't know it is bullshit (and it is remotely plausible), he cannot judge it bullshit.



I hear you, but let's just be logical fro a second here...
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Re: Dexter jackson: mutant
« Reply #59 on: January 07, 2016, 06:41:21 PM »
2008 looked crazy. I think he earned it for sure




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« Reply #60 on: January 07, 2016, 07:01:48 PM »
I hear you, but let's just be logical fro a second here...

If we are being logical then we have to throw our hands up in the air and say we just don't know :)

There has to be hyper responders to gear out there. 

There has to be people who have iron organs that can handle boatloads of toxic drugs.

He could be one or both of those.

The way he looks (never unhealthy), you have to say the dude could very well be blessed with both.

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Re: Dexter jackson: mutant
« Reply #61 on: January 07, 2016, 07:12:40 PM »
Small doses of gh will Jack up blood sugar much less the 30 units pros use every day, on low doses you could inject 20iu of slin without eating and feel fine. Get some experience before talking.

And I'm sure you've taken pharm grade humalog and pharm grade gh, and you're telling me to get some experience before talking lol. 20iu of humalog without eating will put you in a coma or near coma state with blood sugars below 50 even if your fasting blood sugar is above 200. 120-130 fasting blood sugar is considered pre diabetic btw.

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« Reply #62 on: January 07, 2016, 09:16:43 PM »
And I'm sure you've taken pharm grade humalog and pharm grade gh, and you're telling me to get some experience before talking lol. 20iu of humalog without eating will put you in a coma or near coma state with blood sugars below 50 even if your fasting blood sugar is above 200. 120-130 fasting blood sugar is considered pre diabetic btw.

You are wrong. Yesterday I had no appetite so I took 50iu of Lantus and 20iu of Humalog, drank a glass of chocolate Milk and went to sleep for a couple of hours. Woke up and could eat a nice meal lol. I'm not on gh either.High doses are easy to do if you want to, not that I recommend it. 40iu of Humalog isn't much harder to deal with than 20iu for example.

I've taken 40iu of Humalog several times with no problem. But I have played with it for 15 years so I know how I react (don't try this at home).

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Re: Dexter jackson: mutant
« Reply #63 on: January 07, 2016, 09:28:15 PM »
Bodybuilding is predominantly contingent on how one responds to drugs coupled with how long one can be on them without getting sick.  Add good genetics as far as muscle shape, insertions etc. and you have a tier one pro. 

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Re: Dexter jackson: mutant
« Reply #64 on: January 07, 2016, 09:56:01 PM »
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Re: Dexter jackson: mutant
« Reply #65 on: January 07, 2016, 10:37:25 PM »
100's of units of insulin, how fucking naive are you bro?

My brother is a diabetic and if he took 100 units of insulin a day spread out through all of his meals, he'd be in a coma and dead. 100 units of humalog a day would require you to eat at LEAST 800g of carbs a day to not go hypoglycemic. A large dose of humalog for a carbohydrate heavy meal (150g of carbs) for my brother is 15 units. And his pancreas produces NO INSULIN. If he took even 40 units of humalog at once and only ate 100g of carbs(which is still a decent amount of carbs), he'd be rushed to the hospital within 3 hours.
I've used upto 70iu a day

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Re: Dexter jackson: mutant
« Reply #66 on: January 07, 2016, 10:38:20 PM »
And I'm sure you've taken pharm grade humalog and pharm grade gh, and you're telling me to get some experience before talking lol. 20iu of humalog without eating will put you in a coma or near coma state with blood sugars below 50 even if your fasting blood sugar is above 200. 120-130 fasting blood sugar is considered pre diabetic btw.

They make non pharmgrade humalog? Lol not bothering with you

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Re: Dexter jackson: mutant
« Reply #67 on: January 08, 2016, 12:18:59 AM »
He started out competing as a bantamweight around 200 years ago.


U got him beat at 300 yrs

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Re: Dexter jackson: mutant
« Reply #68 on: January 08, 2016, 12:24:42 AM »
That was way back in the beginning, I'm 99% certain he does cardio now. I also heard a number on his slin use. It was in the hundreds of units.

I think you are so far off in your estimations of what he takes and what those guys gotta take to be that huge!

This is very true, I've seen him train when I'm back home in California a few times when he was prepping for the O. Yes he does cardio and trains hard as well. As with all the Charles glass clients they all do the same bullshit exercises and pumps with all dif angles. Same from pro to pro

And no Dexter is not taking 2000 mgs of total gear for his preps, way higher

I think if levrone wanted too if he didn't "retire" he could have gone on like Dexter , his physique even today is still fresh and ten times better than Jay or Ronnie

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Re: Dexter jackson: mutant
« Reply #69 on: January 08, 2016, 01:53:04 AM »
He went from a bantam to 230 on stage in his late 40s.. He has put on considerable size in the last couple years.. Again in his late 40s.. He is not using under 2 grams a week when fully loaded for a show

TWO GRAMS! Really? Guy's a maniac! Playing Russian Roulette! How does he function normally "fully loaded" on two grams?

And as oldtimer said, no slin and gh.

Shit you guys know your stuff!

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Re: Dexter jackson: mutant
« Reply #70 on: January 08, 2016, 02:02:11 AM »
Bahahaha you fuckin' IDIOT!!!
Keep posting and proving what a dumb ass you are. You are soooo eating out of my hand like a little ant on this one, you have no clue, NONE.

Now go back in the corner you came from....



Why do you bother with this moron? He's just making that shit up with his brother not knowing that there are actually people on this board that use more insulin than that and easily go over five grams a week at the amateur level.

I once experimented with insulin years ago and took 40 units of Humulin R then had a drink of 50 grams of carbs a half hour later and started training after another hour sipping a carb drink containing 100 grams of sugar (sucrose).

Zero problems.

To say he has no clue is an understatement. Still, not as bad as the guy who says Dex doesn't go under two grams "fully loaded".

As Van B said in another thread that it's just so hard to believe in 2016 that people still have no clue to want it takes to be at a pro level.

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Re: Dexter jackson: mutant
« Reply #71 on: January 08, 2016, 07:22:35 AM »
You are wrong. Yesterday I had no appetite so I took 50iu of Lantus and 20iu of Humalog, drank a glass of chocolate Milk and went to sleep for a couple of hours. Woke up and could eat a nice meal lol. I'm not on gh either.High doses are easy to do if you want to, not that I recommend it. 40iu of Humalog isn't much harder to deal with than 20iu for example.

I've taken 40iu of Humalog several times with no problem. But I have played with it for 15 years so I know how I react (don't try this at home).

What's your rationale for taking insulin without gh? Stimulate appetite?

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Re: Dexter jackson: mutant
« Reply #72 on: January 08, 2016, 08:06:07 AM »
What's your rationale for taking insulin without gh? Stimulate appetite?

Actually, you can take insulin by itself for bbing purposes because it shuttles nutrients into your muscles. It's when you start taking high dosages of gh that will require the use of insulin.

Remember, gh raises blood sugar and when you take high dosages for a prolong period of time it will continually raise fasting blood glucose levels. Insulin will lower your blood sugar.

Using insulin to cram nutrients into your muscles when you most need it creates a much greater anabolic environment.

http://cleanhealth.com.au/interview-former-ifbb-pro-milos-sarcev/

Men have about 5L of blood and women have about 4L distributed all over the body which is constantly circulating around. In a state of rest at maximum about 10 -12 % of that blood finds its way in to our skeletal muscles, as there is no real physiological demand at the time of a low physical activity period. However, when we become active, blood is sent to our working muscles… and that increased blood flow to exercising muscles (Hyperemia) can achieve an astonishing 60% increase in blood flow or more during weight training. This happens ONLY during the workout!

If I supply all the necessary anabolic nutrients in a pre-digested form (e.g; ATP, glucose, amino acids etc) into the blood stream right before training and then continue delivering more of the same nutrients during my training session whilst raising the most anabolic hormone in our body – insulin – I will create an immediate and maximal anabolic environment.

So instead of loosing nutrients (protein degradation or catabolism) we are creating a greater nutritional uptake by our muscle cells (protein synthesis or anabolism) and simultaneously preventing anti-catabolism… everything we need to great the maximal results we are after. So we need to remember that we only have this opportunity during training, not before or after as blood will not be in the muscle to this extent.

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Re: Dexter jackson: mutant
« Reply #73 on: January 08, 2016, 08:34:57 AM »
That was way back in the beginning, I'm 99% certain he does cardio now. I also heard a number on his slin use. It was in the hundreds of units.

I think you are so far off in your estimations of what he takes and what those guys gotta take to be that huge!

Are you sure you didn't meant thousands?  ::)

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Re: Dexter jackson: mutant
« Reply #74 on: January 08, 2016, 09:20:36 AM »
Actually, you can take insulin by itself for bbing purposes because it shuttles nutrients into your muscles. It's when you start taking high dosages of gh that will require the use of insulin.

Remember, gh raises blood sugar and when you take high dosages for a prolong period of time it will continually raise fasting blood glucose levels. Insulin will lower your blood sugar.

Using insulin to cram nutrients into your muscles when you most need it creates a much greater anabolic environment.

http://cleanhealth.com.au/interview-former-ifbb-pro-milos-sarcev/

Men have about 5L of blood and women have about 4L distributed all over the body which is constantly circulating around. In a state of rest at maximum about 10 -12 % of that blood finds its way in to our skeletal muscles, as there is no real physiological demand at the time of a low physical activity period. However, when we become active, blood is sent to our working muscles… and that increased blood flow to exercising muscles (Hyperemia) can achieve an astonishing 60% increase in blood flow or more during weight training. This happens ONLY during the workout!

If I supply all the necessary anabolic nutrients in a pre-digested form (e.g; ATP, glucose, amino acids etc) into the blood stream right before training and then continue delivering more of the same nutrients during my training session whilst raising the most anabolic hormone in our body – insulin – I will create an immediate and maximal anabolic environment.

So instead of loosing nutrients (protein degradation or catabolism) we are creating a greater nutritional uptake by our muscle cells (protein synthesis or anabolism) and simultaneously preventing anti-catabolism… everything we need to great the maximal results we are after. So we need to remember that we only have this opportunity during training, not before or after as blood will not be in the muscle to this extent.

From what I understand if you don't use GH with it you'll get quite fat also.