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an increase to 15hr min wage would mean
« on: January 15, 2016, 07:48:59 AM »
less hiring
cost of goods food ect increase
more tax collected by gov per person
less w orkers


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Re: an increase to 15hr min wage would mean
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2016, 07:58:42 AM »
Listen...those fuckers at McDonalds cant get my order right making $10/hr! At $15, they would really fuck it up

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Re: an increase to 15hr min wage would mean
« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2016, 08:35:13 AM »
Listen...those fuckers at McDonalds cant get my order right making $10/hr! At $15, they would really fuck it up
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Re: an increase to 15hr min wage would mean
« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2016, 08:41:58 AM »
Listen...those fuckers at McDonalds cant get my order right making $10/hr! At $15, they would really fuck it up

Nope. At $15 hour they would feel more respected finally and take more pride in their work. Then your orders will be right. Its a win win situation for everyone.

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Re: an increase to 15hr min wage would mean
« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2016, 08:43:47 AM »
Nope. At $15 hour they would feel more respected finally and take more pride in their work. Then your orders will be right. Its a win win situation for everyone.
possibly do there jobs better nothing more its a bad idea n da burgers wud cost moe
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Re: an increase to 15hr min wage would mean
« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2016, 08:51:00 AM »
possibly do there jobs better nothing more its a bad idea n da burgers wud cost moe

It's the same as buying American made items knowing that more pride is taken in delivering you a quality product. I think most people would be willing to do that.

It's hard to take pride in any job when you're basically working like a slave with nothing to show for.

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Re: an increase to 15hr min wage would mean
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2016, 09:04:03 AM »
less hiring
cost of goods food ect increase
more tax collected by gov per person
less w orkers


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less hiring by way of less turnover
no cost of good increase(see walmart), fast food companies end up saving money the high turnover rate of the fast food industry cost them quite a bit
more taxes is bad?
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Re: an increase to 15hr min wage would mean
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2016, 09:37:23 AM »
less hiring by way of less turnover
no cost of good increase(see walmart), fast food companies end up saving money the high turnover rate of the fast food industry cost them quite a bit
more taxes is bad?
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if u have2 pay employee more then u have to increase price of goods to not lose money from paying higher wages

yes more taxes are bad basically lining pockets4 government.

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Re: an increase to 15hr min wage would mean
« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2016, 10:55:41 AM »
if u have2 pay employee more then u have to increase price of goods to not lose money from paying higher wages

yes more taxes are bad basically lining pockets4 government.

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if u pay employee more, they don't leave as often. it takes about 20-30% of a worker's salary to replace them. walmart did this last year, and they unilaterally raise prices everywhere did they?

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Re: an increase to 15hr min wage would mean
« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2016, 11:10:44 AM »
if u pay employee more, they don't leave as often. it takes about 20-30% of a worker's salary to replace them. walmart did this last year, and they unilaterally raise prices everywhere did they?

and look, i can make up a title too

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if walmart is paying there workers more , this increase in pay is loss of revenue,the workers are doing the same work they arent magically more efficient
 
it costs nothing more than 1 day of pay to train a low level worker
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Re: an increase to 15hr min wage would mean
« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2016, 11:14:07 AM »
if u pay employee more, they don't leave as often. it takes about 20-30% of a worker's salary to replace them. walmart did this last year, and they unilaterally raise prices everywhere did they?

and look, i can make up a title too

His Excellency, President for Life, Field Marshal Al Hadji Doctor Idi Amin Dada, VC, DSO, MC, Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas and Conqueror of the British Empire in Africa in General and Uganda in Particular
isnt proveable people quit or get fired for all sorts of things

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Re: an increase to 15hr min wage would mean
« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2016, 12:47:02 PM »
bah bah bah.. all it means is less people at the gym, and more people working
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Re: an increase to 15hr min wage would mean
« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2016, 01:26:11 PM »
there was a time in the USA when working 40 hours a week paid enough for you to support you and your family.  No longer. 

Lower wages means fewer consumers to buy your product.

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Re: an increase to 15hr min wage would mean
« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2016, 01:48:54 PM »
there was a time in the USA when working 40 hours a week paid enough for you to support you and your family.  No longer. 

Lower wages means fewer consumers to buy your product.
read above how higher wages are a no win
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Re: an increase to 15hr min wage would mean
« Reply #14 on: January 15, 2016, 02:17:15 PM »
there was a time in the USA when working 40 hours a week paid enough for you to support you and your family.  No longer. 

Lower wages means fewer consumers to buy your product.

There was a time in the USA when the total tax bill on a family of 4 was 10%, not 40%.

The problem lies in Washington.

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Re: an increase to 15hr min wage would mean
« Reply #15 on: January 15, 2016, 05:57:43 PM »
That is insanity.

Some clubs pay $15/hr to their doormen, lol!

$15 to do unskilled work is pure horseshit and fuck no they won't be more productive, not a chance.

I remember being 14 and thinking to myself it would be a dream job to work at Mc Donalds! The "money" and free food, how can it get any better?
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Re: an increase to 15hr min wage would mean
« Reply #16 on: January 15, 2016, 07:39:22 PM »
read above how higher wages are a no win

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Re: an increase to 15hr min wage would mean
« Reply #17 on: January 15, 2016, 10:44:01 PM »
When you raise the price on something, a good or service, do people then want to buy more or less of it?

When you raise the cost of doing business does this make it easier or harder to run your business?

Who wants to live on $15 dollars an hour? That's $600/wk and you take home $480 if you are single. Who can live on that. A shitty one bedroom apartment here is $1,200. If you really care about workers why not make the minimum wage $30/hr?

Who continues making minimum wage after six months on the job?

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Re: an increase to 15hr min wage would mean
« Reply #18 on: January 15, 2016, 11:57:23 PM »
Who continues making minimum wage after six months on the job?

Restaurant workers, janitors, hotel housekeeping, store clerks, the staff at your gym

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Re: an increase to 15hr min wage would mean
« Reply #19 on: January 16, 2016, 12:12:29 AM »
Restaurant workers, janitors, hotel housekeeping, store clerks, the staff at your gym

Wrong. Even Mcdonald's starts at above min wage and you get a raise after 3-6 months on the job. This does not include jobs where you get tips like restaurant workers.

BTW, with the exception of a house keeper, I've worked all those jobs.

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Re: an increase to 15hr min wage would mean
« Reply #20 on: January 16, 2016, 12:26:47 AM »
Wrong. Even Mcdonald's starts at above min wage and you get a raise after 3-6 months on the job. This does not include jobs where you get tips like restaurant workers.

so if you're saying so few people make minimum wage, raising it wouldn't cost that much.

But,





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Re: an increase to 15hr min wage would mean
« Reply #21 on: January 16, 2016, 12:40:16 AM »
so if you're saying so few people make minimum wage, raising it wouldn't cost that much.

But,

 

Tim, you're doing it again. You are reinterpretating my words to suit your agenda. I didn't say "so few people make minimum  wage". I said, "Who continues making minimum wage after six months on the job?"

Big difference.

I didn't bother with the graphs. Not really in the mood to sort all that shit out right now.

What do you think the minimum wage should be

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Re: an increase to 15hr min wage would mean
« Reply #22 on: January 16, 2016, 02:20:52 AM »
I didn't bother with the graphs. Not really in the mood to sort all that shit out right now.

16 million people in the US make minimum wage.  only 20% of those 16 million are under 20.

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What do you think the minimum wage should be

Doesn't matter.  We don't need workers any more.  All the high paying manufacturing jobs have been gone for a while.  All the high paying white collar jobs are disappearing quickly. 

Self driving cars are less than 20 years away.  After that we won't need anyone who gets paid to drive, including truckers, bus drivers, taxi drivers, delivery people.

So either in the not too distant future, the vast majority of the world will be in abject poverty (and that tends to cause revolutions), or we'll have guaranteed income.  Everyone will be given a living wage for doing very little or nothing at all.

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Re: an increase to 15hr min wage would mean
« Reply #23 on: January 16, 2016, 03:11:27 AM »
When you raise the price on something, a good or service, do people then want to buy more or less of it?

When you raise the cost of doing business does this make it easier or harder to run your business?

Who wants to live on $15 dollars an hour? That's $600/wk and you take home $480 if you are single. Who can live on that. A shitty one bedroom apartment here is $1,200. If you really care about workers why not make the minimum wage $30/hr?

Who continues making minimum wage after six months on the job?


sorry, $30/hr?...you'd need more than a GED to get that... ;D

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Re: an increase to 15hr min wage would mean
« Reply #24 on: January 16, 2016, 03:11:53 AM »
They should just raise it. Then Taco Bell will cost what Chipotle does and Chipotle will be $20. Then they all can all pay the new medical tax like the rest of us.