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Re: Why isn't everyone on HRT?
« Reply #25 on: January 16, 2016, 12:03:33 PM »

Yeah... the horse piss based estrogen, NOT the bio identical one.

These who worry about shorter lifespan.. well if you want to live additional ten years of misery - feel free, for me personally - would be better a shorter, but more enjoyable ride.

If it shortens lifespan some here would die with the first shot.

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Re: Why isn't everyone on HRT?
« Reply #26 on: January 16, 2016, 12:04:55 PM »
BINGO> With the prescribed Androgel TRT , I'm no where near 400 mg a week.

Was that you I saw in the gym this morning?  Phoenix area, doing chest super sets?  Pulled away in an older Mercedes ?

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Re: Why isn't everyone on HRT?
« Reply #27 on: January 16, 2016, 12:10:17 PM »
Was that you I saw in the gym this morning?  Phoenix area, doing chest super sets?  Pulled off away in an older to Mercedes ?
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Re: Why isn't everyone on HRT?
« Reply #28 on: January 16, 2016, 12:26:31 PM »

Yeah... the horse piss based estrogen, NOT the bio identical one.

These who worry about shorter lifespan.. well if you want to live additional ten years of misery - feel free, for me personally - would be better a shorter, but more enjoyable ride.

"bioidentical" hormones is a marketing term, there's no standardized definition for them.  They are still synthesized from plant/animal/mineral sources, and there's no clinical research showing any difference in effect--either positive or negative--on the body. 

A shorter life may not necessarily be more enjoyable.  Life after a heart attack/stroke is no picnic, and there is at least some preliminary evidence that TRT increases the incidence of both.

Bottom line: we don't know yet, and to make declarative statements one way or another is foolish. 

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Re: Why isn't everyone on HRT?
« Reply #29 on: January 16, 2016, 12:46:35 PM »
"bioidentical" hormones is a marketing term, there's no standardized definition for them.  They are still synthesized from plant/animal/mineral sources, and there's no clinical research showing any difference in effect--either positive or negative--on the body.  

A shorter life may not necessarily be more enjoyable.  Life after a heart attack/stroke is no picnic, and there is at least some preliminary evidence that TRT increases the incidence of both.

Bottom line: we don't know yet, and to make declarative statements one way or another is foolish.  
A longer life may not necessarily be more enjoyable. Hope this helps.
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Re: Why isn't everyone on HRT?
« Reply #30 on: January 16, 2016, 01:01:46 PM »
A longer life may not necessarily be more enjoyable. Hope this helps.

That's why I go off for 6 months out of the year ... Just in case they find its not healthy
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Re: Why isn't everyone on HRT?
« Reply #31 on: January 16, 2016, 01:03:33 PM »
That's why I go off for 6 months out of the year ... Just in case they find its not healthy
What if they find going off for 6 months out of the year isn't healthy, then what will you do?
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Re: Why isn't everyone on HRT?
« Reply #32 on: January 16, 2016, 01:13:34 PM »
Millions of men have been on TRT for close to a decade now. Where is the genocide? Where is the spike in cancers?

Let's face it, testosterone therapy is as close to rejuvenation as we are likely to get.

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Re: Why isn't everyone on HRT?
« Reply #33 on: January 16, 2016, 01:21:31 PM »
On 400 test a week,,, I know, it's high, but my point is, I feel damn good:

High energy
High sex drive
Less anxiety
Feel great
Very strong and look fantastic

So why isn't everyone on 2-400 mg test a week?  Pretty side effect free and feel like superman!!

I have done cycles with less than that.

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Re: Why isn't everyone on HRT?
« Reply #34 on: January 16, 2016, 01:29:06 PM »
I have done cycles with less than that.

So?

It was a pussy ass cycle, why brag about it?
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Re: Why isn't everyone on HRT?
« Reply #35 on: January 16, 2016, 01:44:34 PM »
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I was kinda joking.  Some guy in there kinda look like what I thought the pics of H on here had looked like.  Howard's usually posting up a storm in every thread but his not replying now worries me that it might have actually been him and he doesn't want to be recognized.  Man if that was him it's almost as good as winning Powerball.

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Re: Why isn't everyone on HRT?
« Reply #36 on: January 16, 2016, 02:36:22 PM »
I was kinda joking.  Some guy in there kinda look like what I thought the pics of H on here had looked like.  Howard's usually posting up a storm in every thread but his not replying now worries me that it might have actually been him and he doesn't want to be recognized.  Man if that was him it's almost as good as winning Powerball.
Man, I'm always joking. And Howard is harmless, just needs something to take his mind off of his erectile dysfunction.
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Re: Why isn't everyone on HRT?
« Reply #37 on: January 16, 2016, 02:37:42 PM »
Man, I'm always joking. And Howard is harmless, just needs something to take his mind off of his erectile dysfunction.

I know.  But he said he's on androgel also.  Is that for the ED?

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Re: Why isn't everyone on HRT?
« Reply #38 on: January 16, 2016, 02:45:22 PM »
@200mg/wk that's a 160 week supply

That's going to be a 4 month supply

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Re: Why isn't everyone on HRT?
« Reply #39 on: January 16, 2016, 02:54:22 PM »
That's going to be a 4 month supply

16 weeks, so 2g/week? A man's cycle. How are you dosing it, like Piana?

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Re: Why isn't everyone on HRT?
« Reply #40 on: January 16, 2016, 02:58:15 PM »
Oh yeah, I think steroids should be available of course.  Just saying that we don't know about its long term effects--which is a big reason why not everyone is on it.

post-menopausal HRT for women was all the rage until we found out it greatly increased the incidence of various cancers....TRT might have the same effect on men.

Unfortunately, there really isn't a such thing as a free lunch in nature

This i find highly interesting. Were i'm from TRT for men is very unusual, you only get TRT or HRT if you have some sort of disease for which you really need to have it (testicular cancer and removal of both testes or hypogonadism). It doesnt occur often that men receive this from their doc.

Trt for women is common good. Almost every woman who has her menopause goes to the doctor and get HRT. The woman who don't receive seem to age SUPERFAST; they get that grandma look in a very short time. While the women who don't, look way better and younger going late into their fiftie's. Staying fuckable while the others get the graveyard mummy look.

For survival science says the best thing is no HRt for women (with added calcium supplementation to osteoperoses, hrt leads to cancer and cardiovasculair problems).

The question probaby goes for men as well. whats better? Living ''young'' as long as possible or living long?

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Re: Why isn't everyone on HRT?
« Reply #41 on: January 16, 2016, 03:03:40 PM »
16 weeks, so 2g/week? A man's cycle. How are you dosing it, like Piana?

I don't know what Piana is doing, but I'm doing one bottle per week and spreading it out with 4 injections a week. Just test only and then going back and cruise at 100mg/wk

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Re: Why isn't everyone on HRT?
« Reply #42 on: January 16, 2016, 03:25:13 PM »
Was that you I saw in the gym this morning?  Phoenix area, doing chest super sets?  Pulled away in an older Mercedes ?

Yup, my wife and I are on vacation there.

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Re: Why isn't everyone on HRT?
« Reply #43 on: January 16, 2016, 03:31:26 PM »
Won't it shut down your natural production?
If so you will depend on it which is bad.
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Re: Why isn't everyone on HRT?
« Reply #44 on: January 16, 2016, 03:36:09 PM »
What if they find going off for 6 months out of the year isn't healthy, then what will you do?
Then I'm fucked!  At least I feel good!
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Re: Why isn't everyone on HRT?
« Reply #45 on: January 16, 2016, 03:37:02 PM »
Won't it shut down your natural production?
If so you will depend on it which is bad.

In my case it was dropping anyway.

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Re: Why isn't everyone on HRT?
« Reply #46 on: January 16, 2016, 04:34:03 PM »
On 400 test a week,,, I know, it's high, but my point is, I feel damn good:

High energy
High sex drive
Less anxiety
Feel great
Very strong and look fantastic

So why isn't everyone on 2-400 mg test a week?  Pretty side effect free and feel like superman!!

How do you feel when you're not on it?

Seems like a pretty high dose to me. I'm on 300 mg a week and I feel damn good, plus I am 71 years old.

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Re: Why isn't everyone on HRT?
« Reply #47 on: January 16, 2016, 04:59:12 PM »
just started 100mgs a week. three months in. feeling great. we all gonna croak someday, might as well go out enjoying life.

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Re: Why isn't everyone on HRT?
« Reply #48 on: January 16, 2016, 05:00:55 PM »
just started 100mgs a week. three months in. feeling great. we all gonna croak someday, might as well go out enjoying life.

My reasoning exactly. I'm a lot closer to "croaking" naturally (from old age) than most folks on Getbig.

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Re: Why isn't everyone on HRT?
« Reply #49 on: January 16, 2016, 05:03:02 PM »
"bioidentical" hormones is a marketing term, there's no standardized definition for them.  They are still synthesized from plant/animal/mineral sources, and there's no clinical research showing any difference in effect--either positive or negative--on the body. 

A shorter life may not necessarily be more enjoyable.  Life after a heart attack/stroke is no picnic, and there is at least some preliminary evidence that TRT increases the incidence of both.

Bottom line: we don't know yet, and to make declarative statements one way or another is foolish. 

I'm too tired to go into the details, but there's a significant difference between bio identical and the one that was used back in the years (premaine if I[m not mistaken).