How much protein is really needed

[ritch]

Gonna ask the exact same question I did earlier.

Pics of your so called proof or just fucking shut the fuck up man. Since seeing White Widows pics, all you babble mouths preaching superiority with your "methods" can suck it.

Post pics to prove it or just appear like total bullshitters.

[BBSSchlemiel]

Gonna ask the exact same question I did earlier.

Pics of your so called proof or just fucking shut the fuck up man. Since seeing White Widows pics, all you babble mouths preaching superiority with your "methods" can suck it.

Post pics to prove it or just appear like total bullshitters.

I never said my "method" is superior. All I said is that some today have a protein obsession and some recommendations are overblown. Being I post on normal boards with pics, showing pics here would ruin anonymity.

[ritch]

I never said my "method" is superior. All I said is that some today have a protein obsession and some recommendations are overblown. Being I post on normal boards with pics, showing pics here would ruin anonymity.

True, some have a protein obsession. But the argument of being anonomous just does not hold ground. Think I showed my ugly mug in my pics?

Hell no, I'm not crazy, lol... You can end up in animated gifs here for a very long time after, lol..

All I can tell you is if 150 grams worked for me, I'd do it. Was flat ass broke most my life, spent a good time trying to see the min amount required to save money and like most, it comes down to 1gr/lb bodyweight.

I'll never understand why some try to piss in the face of what works for like 80% plus of people by recommending undershooting one of the most important factors to get size and it's protein.

Or maybe you guys just have better genetics? Dunno.

[BBSSchlemiel]

True, some have a protein obsession. But the argument of being anonomous just does not hold ground. Think I showed my ugly mug in my pics?

Hell no, I'm not crazy, lol... You can end up in animated gifs here for a very long time after, lol..

All I can tell you is if 150 grams worked for me, I'd do it. Was flat ass broke most my life, spent a good time trying to see the min amount required to save money and like most, it comes down to 1gr/lb bodyweight.

I'll never understand why some try to piss in the face of what works for like 80% plus of people by recommending undershooting one of the most important factors to get size and it's protein.

Or maybe you guys just have better genetics? Dunno.

Finally, a civil post. Maybe I killed you with kindness.

I'll take this.

[Ropo]

What needs fixing are your dormant brain cells to post such crap.

Well, gram per pound just happens to be a bullshit: "the RDA is 0.8 grams per kilogram of lean bodyweight (U.S. Food and Nutrition Board, 1980) One of the top researchers in this field, Dr Peter Lemon, stated in a recent review paper that, "the RDA for those engaged in strength training should be about 1.7 - 1.8 grams of protein per kilogram of body mass per day". Dr Lemon came to this conclusion after citing several studies (Fern, 1991, Tarnopolsky et al., 1992) which used amounts of protein ranging from 1.3 - 3.3 grams of protein per kilogram of bodyweight. "

As you may realize, they use "gram per kilogram", not gram per pound, why? Well, what would be a reason to mix up imperial and metric units? Stupidity, which is the strongest force in this sport  

[BlackMetallic]

One only has 3 macros to choose from. Well four if you include alcohol which burns off pretty slow

If one is trying to stay lean they are probably gonna try and limit carb intake and keep their fat intake low to moderate. Unless they are doing keto then that means even less/zero carbs.

Which leaves protein.

[_aj_]

Finally, a civil post. Maybe I killed you with kindness.

I'll take this.

I think he burned a blunt before posting. It is possible and actually even easy to post a physique pic whilst remaining anonymous (note avatar). So that excuse is complete BS. That leaves looking like shit as the likely alternate reason.

[BBSSchlemiel]

I think he burned a blunt before posting. It is possible and actually even easy to post a physique pic whilst remaining anonymous (note avatar). So that excuse is complete BS. That leaves looking like shit as the likely alternate reason.

I can say confidently that if posted one, then the whole "see I told you so, you look like shit" ploy would fall on its face. And like I give a fuck about winning over the hearts of the great deal of winners here, a place I go to for shits and giggles. I don't take this board seriously or even in a way in which I would care to pal around with most. On one of the more serious boards on the net, I've actually made real-life friends.

And if my take on protein intake is ridiculous, then others don't have to follow it.

[Yamcha]

I can say confidently that if posted one, then the whole "see I told you so, you look like shit" ploy would fall on its face. And like I give a fuck about winning over the hearts of the great deal of winners here, a place I go to for shits and giggles. I don't take this board seriously or even in a way in which I would care to pal around with most. On one of the more serious boards on the net, I've actually made real-life friends.

And if my take on protein intake is ridiculous, then others don't have to follow it.

hence your 150 grams of protein post.

[oldschoolfan]

mentzer idnt eat alot of protein.

i have his original heavy duty journal the one he did in 1979

i would say  less than 100 grams per day

[BBSSchlemiel]

hence your 150 grams of protein post.

Oh boy, you got me. I also never made that specific rec.

[Tha Grim Lifter]

Anyone saying 'You definitely need 1 gram per pound' blah blah blah I've eaten up to 2 grams per pound and now a lot less and it doesn't make a difference. Obviously there's some minimum requirement but we've all been fed so much bullshit no-one is game to try it. Try 50 grams of protein a day and see if you lose muscle. Not all the water a permabulker will hold, actual muscle.

[Hulkotron]

One of the great questions of our time

[Griffith]

mentzer idnt eat alot of protein.

i have his original heavy duty journal the one he did in 1979

i would say  less than 100 grams per day

Yes, he said you need to calculate your maintenance calories.

Then increase them another 300-500 calories for muscle growth.

[ritch]

I think he burned a blunt before posting. It is possible and actually even easy to post a physique pic whilst remaining anonymous (note avatar). So that excuse is complete BS. That leaves looking like shit as the likely alternate reason.

 
I've noticed how my posts pre and post smoking are much different... And true what you say about the pic, it's not complicated and a wonderful way to back or not back ones "value as a poster" as I value the posts from those who walk the walk. It's so much easier said than done this whole lifestyle.

[OB1]

I've noticed how my posts pre and post smoking are much different... And true what you say about the pic, it's not complicated and a wonderful way to back or not back ones "value as a poster" as I value the posts from those who walk the walk. It's so much easier said than done this whole lifestyle.

This one is post smoking I guess.

[ritch]

This one is post smoking I guess.

Was just waking up actually, am normally very grumpy and my most negative posts are done then!

Guess the nice sunny day is why...

[Griffith]

So if your calories stay the same and you up the protein then you will gain more muscle? 

[rocket]

Really? So for instance, you never felt stronger, weaker, bigger, smaller etc. depending on your protein intake?

I feel weaker if I eat less meals, but I can't separate the protein from the other nutrients in that data.

[Julio Ceasar]

im on 2700kcal/day. I cant spend it on protein, I need the fucking carbs. Now I can train, get the pump. feeling strong...while losing weight!

Training on low carbs high protein work shit! Proetin dosent do jack shit for your body. Its only hard to break down and get stuck in your fucking stomach!

Carb is king! It give you energi, it make u strong. Proein make you weak and no energy!

80-90% carbs 10-20% protein.

[Kim Jong Bob]

im on 2700kcal/day. I cant spend it on protein, I need the fucking carbs. Now I can train, get the pump. feeling strong...while losing weight!

Training on low carbs high protein work shit! Proetin dosent do jack shit for your body. Its only hard to break down and get stuck in your fucking stomach!

Carb is king! It give you energi, it make u strong. Proein make you weak and no energy!

80-90% carbs 10-20% protein.

i guess we all know now why you are a twink

[_aj_]

i guess we all know now why you are a twink

Lal

[OB1]

So if your calories stay the same and you up the protein then you will gain more muscle?  

Nope.
Workout intensity sets the bar.
Given enough rest and nutrients the muscles will grow.
They won't grow bigger because you eat more protein.

http://bayesianbodybuilding.com/the-myth-of-1glb-optimal-protein-intake-for-bodybuilders/

[iwannabejacked]

From 100 to 500 grams a day, I never 'noticed' a single difference.

'Noticed' feeling 'stronger' with more protein... Ffs, how can you isolate 'protein' out of the 500 billion other processes that your life consists of.

Do you live in a laboratory?

You probably got stronger on higher amounts of protein just because you were eating more calories, not because you were gaining any additional muscle compared to when you were eating 100 grams.

[MAXX]