Milos or Guy Grundy: Effect of Synthol Query

[rocket]

Milos or Guy

There are one or two people debating this quite heavily I thought I'd ask someone who might know, here is what is being said (I don't have an opinion, I'm just interested to hear the truth). 

From Johnnyapollo (basically the crux of the discussion).

"I know several people who have used Synthol in the past. It's injected into the heads of the muscles to cause oil to enter the muscle and then after a few weeks it naturally dissipates. Once it dissipates there is a room left over where the synthol used to be,REAL muscle can be grown there. The temporary hollow area is a highly anabolic environment which causes the muscle to naturally "fill out" and fill the area that the oil used to be. New muscle fibers form to fill the area within a few weeks and then you have actuall real muscle replacing it.

This guy has IMPLANTS. There is NO WAY this can be caused by simple synthol injections. I won't repeat myself again...OIL DISSIPATES. Any sort of liquid injected into the muscles or which forms in the muscles dissipates. Anyone who's ever injected testosterone into therself knows that it dissipates."

Anyway, thoughts?, Does this mean that oil must be regularly injected in?  To me the thing that casts doubt on full dissipation is that it is clear at contest time when someone has gone too far.  Why then would they turn up to the next contest with obvious oil usage again if it were necessary to repeat application?

Shawn if you delete this, I'll haunt you, I'm interested to know about it, let it be 

For reference he was referring to a picture of



But I'm more interested in borderline cases of pros who look like they have slightly overdone things.

[Milos_Sarcev]

Synthol WILL destroy muscle tissue...
It creates scar tissue that becomes fibrotic and/or necrotic tissue.

Fibrosis is known as proliferation of fibrous connective tissue...What is important to realize is: this is ABNORMAL condition as fibrotic tissue REPLACES normal smooth MUSCLE tissue!

Necrosis is even worst: this condition is characterized with DEATH of localized tissue! Due to injury (in this case local synthol injections) death occurs in groups of muscle cells in the muscle tissue where bodybuilder injects synthol.

As I made myself example before - I will do it again (even at coast to be primary target for my "biggest fans") - synthol truly destroyed my competitive career.

Muscle tissue where I injected synthol will simply not respond to any training stimulus anymore...

I hope that is enough to stop everyone of using it.

[Mars]

So Milos, what do you think this clown has in his arms?

[Milos_Sarcev]

So Milos, what do you think this clown has in his arms?

He has TROUBLE he will have to deal with very soon!

[littleguns]

Milos, thank you for your candor and honesty.

[jaejonna]

Not such a smart or should I say brainy thing to do when your called the smartest person in your profession and you ruin your career...

Alanis Morissette... "isnt it ironic...don you think??"

[Dan-O]

Not such a smart or should I say brainy thing to do when your called the smartest person in your profession and you ruin your career...

Alanis Morissette... "isnt it ironic...don you think??"

Hindsight is always 20/20.  It's not exactly like there were lots of clinical studies done on the safety of doing I/M injections with synthol or something, ya know?  I'm sure it's not approved for I/M use by the FDA or anything.  It's just one of those fucked-up things someone came up with and it started catching on and only now are some of the more long-term effects being realized.

[Milos_Sarcev]

Not such a smart or should I say brainy thing to do when your called the smartest person in your profession and you ruin your career...

Alanis Morissette... "isnt it ironic...don you think??"

Have you ever heard a saying: ERRARE HUMANUM EST (it's human to make mistakes)?
I recognized my mistake and now I try to warn people to learn from my mistake...

And as far as you "jaejonna" how many mistakes did you make today?
So far - everything you do or say is mistake...it's getting boring - do something right for Christ sake.

[Scimowser]

whats the difference between taking anabolic steroids and using synthol? This is a rhetorical question, all im saying is that people take steroids to make their physiques look better, and then they use the synthol as an add on to improve lagging parts. Im pretty sure Milos only wanted to fill in the blanks to stop the judges overlooking him, and whilst i do not condone his use of it, i do understand why he felt the need to. In hindsight he wouldnt have used it but there is nothing he can do about that now except use his situation as a severe warning to others who may want to start using it.

in reply to the remark about him being the brainiest man in the profession, qute simply: LISTEN and LEARN

im sure you didnt understand half of what Milos said in his first post and English is his SECOND language 

[brianX]

I like how these synthol junkies try to rationalize injecting shit into their arms. Muscle fibers cannot reproduce, they only get bigger in size. This notion that synthol will stimulate the reproduction of new muscle fibers contradicts basic medical science.

BTW Milos, we're talking about skeletal muscle tissue, not smooth muscle tissue.

[knny187]

I may be crazy.....but this looks AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!


Gotta get me some synthol!

[Man of Steel]

I may be crazy.....but this looks AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!


Gotta get me some synthol!

Exactly, this dude is crazy big.....a damn man-monster of epic proportions!!   


Synthol is the way to go kiddos!!


MOS

[CT]

Not such a smart or should I say brainy thing to do when your called the smartest person in your profession and you ruin your career...

Alanis Morissette... "isnt it ironic...don you think??"

The thing is that people who make mistakes and are able to learn from those mistakes can actually use their experiences to better coach or instruct other individuals.

It's one thing to learn all the science behind pharma products, peaking procedures and all the other variables involved in bodybuilding, it's quite another to be able to put that theoretical knowledge into practice.

Would you ask a virgin for tip on how to become a great lover? Hopefully not! Milos is a curious mind; he learn the theory behind the variables involved in bodybuilding, but he was also brave enough to be his own guinea pig. Some times such approach can backfire. After all, it's not like there is any true scientific studies about bodybuilding "supplementation"... so trying something out in the real world carries its set of risks. Sometimes you win, sometimes you loose. But at least if you've been on the field of battle (not just  learning the theories and experimenting only on others like other prep gurus) you are much better equipped to counsell others and make them avoid the most serious risks.

[simon]

milos, do you feel the collagen in the brand of synthol you used (esiklean) is responsible for the damage??  certain brands contain no collagen (synthetek/syntherol) and there manufacturers seem to claim this is what is responsible for the cellular damage.  your opinion is greatly appreciated.

[knny187]

Exactly, this dude is crazy big.....a damn man-monster of epic proportions!!   


Synthol is the way to go kiddos!!


MOS

I want my neck to get that big

[Dnizneer]

Who gives a shit who uses synthol or not, If they want to look like that let them be. By the way, the general public wouldnt know the difference between real muscle thats been overdeveloped and that bag of shit for arms that guy has.

[Croatch]

The guy looks like white trash all the way.  Now he's white trash with oil in his arms.  Good job!

[rocket]

Thanks milos for answering, I appreciate that every time you answer something like this you have to endure several people casting judgement about your choice   Anyway, I'm not sure what I was directly questioning has been answered, forgive me if you have I'm not incredibly knowledgable in this field.

I think the crux of the argument was these questions

Does synthol dissipate over time?

Does it require maintenance injections?

Is it even possible to have that much oil in your arms or wouldn't the oil migrate to say the forearms?

Wouldn't it be more likely that they are implants?

[analcandy]

Thanks milos for answering, I appreciate that every time you answer something like this you have to endure several people casting judgement about your choice   Anyway, I'm not sure what I was directly questioning has been answered, forgive me if you have I'm not incredibly knowledgable in this field.

I think the crux of the argument was these questions

Does synthol dissipate over time?

Does it require maintenance injections?

Is it even possible to have that much oil in your arms or wouldn't the oil migrate to say the forearms?

Wouldn't it be more likely that they are implants?

you forgot to ask your last question:

Where can i get some?

[rocket]

Hah, I'm spectator not a participant..

[Van_Bilderass]

Milos is it true you were using the Esikclean brand of Synthol?Someone on professional muscle said the problems you had were due to using an unsterile product... that you suffered an anaphylactic shock. True?

[Johnny Apollo]

Synthol WILL destroy muscle tissue...
It creates scar tissue that becomes fibrotic and/or necrotic tissue.

Fibrosis is known as proliferation of fibrous connective tissue...What is important to realize is: this is ABNORMAL condition as fibrotic tissue REPLACES normal smooth MUSCLE tissue!

Necrosis is even worst: this condition is characterized with DEATH of localized tissue! Due to injury (in this case local synthol injections) death occurs in groups of muscle cells in the muscle tissue where bodybuilder injects synthol.

As I made myself example before - I will do it again (even at coast to be primary target for my "biggest fans") - synthol truly destroyed my competitive career.

Muscle tissue where I injected synthol will simply not respond to any training stimulus anymore...

I hope that is enough to stop everyone of using it.

All true assuming it's done INCORRECTLY or used specific oils with collagen that forms scar tissue. If done correctly there won't be any scar tissue. You should of choose a oil without any collagen,Should of used smaller needles(To reduce the trauma on the muscle from the injection which causes scar tissue), Should of massaged the area several times a day to prevent a "lump" from forming which forms scar tissue.

I'm assuming you made some sort of mistake in the injection,Choice of SEO,post injection protocol,ect.

[Johnny Apollo]

whats the difference between taking anabolic steroids and using synthol? This is a rhetorical question, all im saying is that people take steroids to make their physiques look better, and then they use the synthol as an add on to improve lagging parts. Im pretty sure Milos only wanted to fill in the blanks to stop the judges overlooking him, and whilst i do not condone his use of it, i do understand why he felt the need to. In hindsight he wouldnt have used it but there is nothing he can do about that now except use his situation as a severe warning to others who may want to start using it.

in reply to the remark about him being the brainiest man in the profession, qute simply: LISTEN and LEARN

im sure you didnt understand half of what Milos said in his first post and English is his SECOND language 

Anabolic Steroids are alot easier to take and are alot safer than Synthol. Mistakes are Rampant with Synthol use,Sarcev is an example I believe. However Steroids only cause everlasting problems when used without any regard for the future. Guys who take Steroids and have a good cycle and make a few mistakes here and there by missing this or that or not doing a PCT won't see everlasting side effects.
However when it comes to Synthol..A single inch in the wrong direction can do alot of permanent damage.

[Special Ed]

As I made myself example before - I will do it again (even at coast to be primary target for my "biggest fans") - synthol truly destroyed my competitive career.

Muscle tissue where I injected synthol will simply not respond to any training stimulus anymore...

I must have synthol in my arms too...because they will simply not respond to any training stimulus anymore either.

Special "Toothpicks" Ed

[Johnny Apollo]

The thing is that people who make mistakes and are able to learn from those mistakes can actually use their experiences to better coach or instruct other individuals.

It's one thing to learn all the science behind pharma products, peaking procedures and all the other variables involved in bodybuilding, it's quite another to be able to put that theoretical knowledge into practice.

Would you ask a virgin for tip on how to become a great lover? Hopefully not! Milos is a curious mind; he learn the theory behind the variables involved in bodybuilding, but he was also brave enough to be his own guinea pig. Some times such approach can backfire. After all, it's not like there is any true scientific studies about bodybuilding "supplementation"... so trying something out in the real world carries its set of risks. Sometimes you win, sometimes you loose. But at least if you've been on the field of battle (not just  learning the theories and experimenting only on others like other prep gurus) you are much better equipped to counsell others and make them avoid the most serious risks.

There are plenty of studies on bodybuilding supplements.