The show in Belgium got raided a couple of days ago Bob!! See if you put two and two together you may figure that out. Yes, I must be 14. When I trained with Pat Mok, Henderson Thorne etc I travelled back in time. BTW the 80's are calling-they want their hair back. I figured out a while back- like in my early 20's that juicing was not something I wanted to continue with. Since most of the guys I hung out with either dealt drugs etc to buy their shit I figured I'd put my education to use and get a career. Stop your insanity now, people will laugh at you(much like your physique at the Masters O that you say you deserved to win. I bet it took a lot of cock sucking to pull that off. It's funny,when most people recall the great builds of the 80's and early 90's they think of guys like Shawn Ray, Francis Benfatto, Lee Labrada, Dennis Newman. You are not even on the radar. Have a nice day.