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Obama Asks for $1.1 Billion to Fight Opioid and Heroin Abuse
« on: February 05, 2016, 05:18:33 PM »
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/obama-asks-for-1-1-billion-to-fight-opioid-and-heroin-abuse/

Fifteen years ago, heroin use and abuse of prescription opioids led to 7,000 overdose deaths annually. In the years since, such deaths have surged — quadrupling to 28,648 in 2014, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

On Tuesday, the Obama administration said it would ask Congress for $1.1 billion over the next two years to combat the growing health crisis — funds mostly aimed at expanding treatment for the addicted.

According to the White House, $920 million would go toward helping states expand access to medication-assisted treatment programs. More than 2 million Americans are in need of treatment, administration officials said in a news conference, but only 1 million currently have access to it.

“We’ve heard countless stories about people who encounter long waiting lines to get into treatment, to find a bed,” White House drug czar Michael Botticelli said.

The plan would devote around $30 million to evaluating how effective treatment programs are in “real-world conditions,” and another $50 million in funding for treatment providers.

The proposed budget would also direct attention to overdose prevention strategies, including improving access to naloxone, a drug that reverses overdoses, and training health care providers on the right way to prescribe opioid painkillers.

Opioid abuse is one of the rare issues receiving bipartisan attention, with Republicans and Democrats alike calling for reform on the 2016 election campaign trail. President Obama listed prescription drug abuse as one of the “bipartisan priorities” he hoped both parties could work together on during his last State of the Union address.

Sen. Rob Portman, R-Ohio, co-authored a bipartisan piece of legislation with Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse, D-R.I., to tackle the opioid crisis. The proposed legislation would expand prevention and education efforts, increase the availability of naloxone — the overdose-reversing drug — to law enforcement and first responders, expand treatment for addiction, including to individuals in prison, and increase monitoring of prescription drugs.

The Senate Judiciary Committee considers the bill this Thursday. Portman responded to Obama’s plan with a statement saying, “If the White House is serious about fighting the heroin epidemic, the president will signal his support for the bipartisan Comprehensive Addiction & Recovery Act.”

For more on the heroin epidemic, tune into FRONTLINE on Feb. 23 for Chasing Heroin, a special two-hour investigation from veteran producer Marcela Gaviria. Watch the trailer:
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Re: Obama Asks for $1.1 Billion to Fight Opioid and Heroin Abuse
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2016, 05:36:00 PM »
Ironic being that NATO runs heroin out of Afghanistan to fund their black ops.   

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Re: Obama Asks for $1.1 Billion to Fight Opioid and Heroin Abuse
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2016, 05:39:12 PM »
I'm 100% libertarian on the drug issue.
I think most drugs should be perfectly legal and sold over the counter in stores.
BUT, if you get addicted , you're on your own.

I don't think the GOV should makes laws against ADULTS using 'em . I also don't think they need to offer help if you fuk up and get hooked.

I believe marijuana sales last year from legal purchase was like 7 billion dollars.

Well, the problem is that servere addiction may lead to all sorts of criminal behavior. More criminal behavior, more people in jail. More tax payers money to house criminals.

Its not as easy as you make it seem.

However, for the most part, I am libertarian when it comes to drug use. But what I am obviously against is when it become a severe addiction, then has a direct or indirect effect on others. In a perfect world, everyone would use responsibly and it would have zero effect on others. But that is the furthest thing from the truth.
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Re: Obama Asks for $1.1 Billion to Fight Opioid and Heroin Abuse
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2016, 05:40:51 PM »
If you choose to use, you'll soon lose. Everything.

How is this Average Joe's business?

The weak are designed to ruin and kill themselves. It's natural law. Our "civilized" societies have stood in the way of natural law, with, for example, public monies being spent to prevent (Oh, brother) individuals from using and/or assisting in their rehabilitation.

I'm a taxpayer. I am 46 years old. Despite hardships on occasion, I have never been drunk, stoned, high, or otherwise willfully fucked up. Never smoked a cigarette. No, I'm not a hero. I am a responsible adult who is smart enough to not consider the use of alcohol and illicit substances a good decision.

If I ever did, it's not anyone else's responsibility to save my skin.

Fuck 'em. Die. Get lost. I don't care.

P.S. I am also a champion for the death penalty. And not just for 1st- or 2nd-degree murder, either. Some individuals are just not worth the effort to allow to stay alive.

  

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Re: Obama Asks for $1.1 Billion to Fight Opioid and Heroin Abuse
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2016, 06:11:37 PM »
Because we don't have enough government ran programs ::)

Another tax to incur.

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Re: Obama Asks for $1.1 Billion to Fight Opioid and Heroin Abuse
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2016, 06:50:48 PM »
I'd be happy to allocate funds, but treatment doesn't work.  Ridiculously Yuuge failure rate.  Simply wasted money better spent elsewhere.

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Re: Obama Asks for $1.1 Billion to Fight Opioid and Heroin Abuse
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2016, 07:09:28 PM »
If you choose to use, you'll soon lose. Everything.

How is this Average Joe's business?

The weak are designed to ruin and kill themselves. It's natural law. Our "civilized" societies have stood in the way of natural law, with, for example, public monies being spent to prevent (Oh, brother) individuals from using and/or assisting in their rehabilitation.

I'm a taxpayer. I am 46 years old. Despite hardships on occasion, I have never been drunk, stoned, high, or otherwise willfully fucked up. Never smoked a cigarette. No, I'm not a hero. I am a responsible adult who is smart enough to not consider the use of alcohol and illicit substances a good decision.

If I ever did, it's not anyone else's responsibility to save my skin.

Fuck 'em. Die. Get lost. I don't care.

P.S. I am also a champion for the death penalty. And not just for 1st- or 2nd-degree murder, either. Some individuals are just not worth the effort to allow to stay alive.

  

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Re: Obama Asks for $1.1 Billion to Fight Opioid and Heroin Abuse
« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2016, 07:10:12 PM »
Great another billion plus dollars to fight a problem that can't be solved.  Zero return on investment.  Why not just set the money on fire, much simpler and will give you the same result.

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Re: Obama Asks for $1.1 Billion to Fight Opioid and Heroin Abuse
« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2016, 07:12:50 PM »
If you choose to use, you'll soon lose. Everything.

How is this Average Joe's business?

The weak are designed to ruin and kill themselves. It's natural law. Our "civilized" societies have stood in the way of natural law, with, for example, public monies being spent to prevent (Oh, brother) individuals from using and/or assisting in their rehabilitation.

I'm a taxpayer. I am 46 years old. Despite hardships on occasion, I have never been drunk, stoned, high, or otherwise willfully fucked up. Never smoked a cigarette. No, I'm not a hero. I am a responsible adult who is smart enough to not consider the use of alcohol and illicit substances a good decision.

If I ever did, it's not anyone else's responsibility to save my skin.

Fuck 'em. Die. Get lost. I don't care.

P.S. I am also a champion for the death penalty. And not just for 1st- or 2nd-degree murder, either. Some individuals are just not worth the effort to allow to stay alive.

  

careful, I used to have that same attitude and it came back and bit me in the ass hard. For example you and I being Canadian,  if you blow out your knee, shoulder, back lifting 100's of pounds in powerlifting eventually and need surgery you are covered. Most of the public think that is reckless behaviour but I doubt you are going to cough up the thousands to cover your surgery being we have medicare/OHIP

re...the addiction, alot of people I know in recovery these days got addicted to morphine based substances(oxy, herion etc) post surgery or post trauma like auto accidents and diseases that causes alot of anguish like crohn's, degenarative backs, arthritis.
Look at how many first responders turn to alcohol abuse because of what they see on the job, this none of the types I mentioned are/were exactly scum

I also know people who have come from the most traumatic childhood shit you could ever imagine, most are sober today but many years were spent being on the outskirts of society which started because some 'responsible adult(s)' decide it's ok to physically or sexually abuse the fuck out them when they are little. Then since they are trapped and inside the mental hell that is their brain they get into things later like substances because they are mental giant like you guys and they admittedly became scum.

Sorry I usually agree with your posts but here you are totally off base, not about the Obama shit etc, but your attitude about people.

Like I said hopefully you don't get injured lifting and/or need surgery and somehow end up on the other side of the fence. You have absolutely no clue how easy and fast it takes to get there
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Re: Obama Asks for $1.1 Billion to Fight Opioid and Heroin Abuse
« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2016, 07:32:01 PM »
Looky here, I've had to endure and get over my share of emotional life traumas.
Granted, I didn't get ass raped by a gang of zombies, but I've dealt with share of emotional stressful crap.
It wasn't always easy, but I didn't need some counselor or GOV hand out program to deal with it.

For example, I have a relative that got divorced and his wife left him for some other dude.
He's always looking for sympathy and claims he can't stop drinking , quit working and moved  back in with his mom. One time, , while slightly drunk during a holiday he told me I had no idea what it was to have your wife leave you.

I looked him straight in the eye and firmly replied  ; " I walked in on my 1st wife in bed with 2 marines, so I divorced her ass and didn't look back. I moved on and refused to be a victim of her behavior."

He just shrugged his shoulders and refused to talk to me.
Later I heard him talking to someone else and bad mouthing his ex wife. Loser.




you obviously did not comprehend what I wrote.
nor was it directed at you.
nor was I for this latest obama nonsense
addicton has nothing to do with just choices

Stick to posting the same threads over and over again instead
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Re: Obama Asks for $1.1 Billion to Fight Opioid and Heroin Abuse
« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2016, 07:49:29 PM »
Ironic being that NATO runs heroin out of Afghanistan to fund their black ops.   

Not to mention the CIA.
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« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2016, 08:14:10 PM »
careful, I used to have that same attitude and it came back and bit me in the ass hard. For example you and I being Canadian,  if you blow out your knee, shoulder, back lifting 100's of pounds in powerlifting eventually and need surgery you are covered. Most of the public think that is reckless behaviour but I doubt you are going to cough up the thousands to cover your surgery being we have medicare/OHIP

re...the addiction, alot of people I know in recovery these days got addicted to morphine based substances(oxy, herion etc) post surgery or post trauma like auto accidents and diseases that causes alot of anguish like crohn's, degenarative backs, arthritis.
Look at how many first responders turn to alcohol abuse because of what they see on the job, this none of the types I mentioned are/were exactly scum

I also know people who have come from the most traumatic childhood shit you could ever imagine, most are sober today but many years were spent being on the outskirts of society which started because some 'responsible adult(s)' decide it's ok to physically or sexually abuse the fuck out them when they are little. Then since they are trapped and inside the mental hell that is their brain they get into things later like substances because they are mental giant like you guys and they admittedly became scum.

Sorry I usually agree with your posts but here you are totally off base, not about the Obama shit etc, but your attitude about people.

Like I said hopefully you don't get injured lifting and/or need surgery and somehow end up on the other side of the fence. You have absolutely no clue how easy and fast it takes to get there

I'm not off base. To my way of thinking.

Me getting injured doing a (generally) safe physical/athletic activity and requiring medical care (for which I pay, handsomely, year-in and year-out) is NOT the same as an individual choosing to do something that every sane person KNOWS is damaging. I don't begrudge a person for requiring surgery when he hurts himself skiing during vacation, after all.

(And I am a "first-responder", so I am routinely exposed to the most heinous behaviours/scenerios committed by the human animal. Doesn't matter. It's no excuse. From fecal attacks to crushed skulls and gouged eyes to ferocious physical attack on my person, I experience it all, daily.)





 

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Re: Obama Asks for $1.1 Billion to Fight Opioid and Heroin Abuse
« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2016, 08:59:20 PM »
I'm not off base. To my way of thinking.

Me getting injured doing a (generally) safe physical/athletic activity and requiring medical care (for which I pay, handsomely, year-in and year-out) is NOT the same as an individual choosing to do something that every sane person KNOWS is damaging. I don't begrudge a person for requiring surgery when he hurts himself skiing during vacation, after all.

(And I am a "first-responder", so I am routinely exposed to the most heinous behaviours/scenerios committed by the human animal. Doesn't matter. It's no excuse. From fecal attacks to crushed skulls and gouged eyes to ferocious physical attack on my person, I experience it all, daily.)





 

I assume you are a policeman or paramedic then as they take the brunt of the bullshit, especially in areas such as 51, 55 div

Powerlifting and squatting 600-700plus lbs is not exactly a safe activity, and sorry no we don't pay for it(medicare) directly we pay for it collectively. One of my relatives is a multi-millionaire for instance and he doesn't do anything of high risk physically yet he pays several hundred thousand a year in taxes, which is alot more than we pay, so yes, collectively. So perhaps he should get his money returned to him instead of having to pay for others operations when they get hurt doing what they think are safe activities.

so do you feel your 'first responder' brothers and sisters are scum when they fall into the trap of substance abuse or are weak minded losers because they can't cope with seeing dead babies, overdoses, etc etc etc? I don't anymore then when I see the crazy hooker who has probably become like that because she has been getting raped since the age of 8. I am not excusing behaviours either.

I have fair amount of friends and aquaintances who are/were involved in the first responder occupations among my recovery community and they far from being weak-minded people, as are most among my recovery friends. We all did varying degrees of stupidity during our time in addiction and all got into it for a variety of reasons. But substance abuse is huge in the first responder professions, especially alcohol, and despite all that gibberish about the law, drugs as well in fact!

Hell 90% of your musical interests have/had a substance abuse problem and/or have sponged off the system or done acts of depravity to live their art.


I get the frustration, but I don't get the hatred and holier than thou part, which is funny because you sound like one of those religious people who judge anyone who doesn't live by your moral code.

Anyways no hatred, just don't agree, and thanks for keeping the community well, safe by watching out for people when they need help


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Re: Obama Asks for $1.1 Billion to Fight Opioid and Heroin Abuse
« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2016, 10:32:10 PM »
I'd be happy to allocate funds, but treatment doesn't work.  Ridiculously Yuuge failure rate.  Simply wasted money better spent elsewhere.

Treatment in the US has a huge failure rate but other treatments are effective.

I was an IV heroin user (and Oxys, Vikes, etc) for years and the ONLY thing that saved me was MYSELF...and AA

Typical Western treatment methods are pretty bad.  My 30 inpatient treatment facility was a breeding ground for abuse.  Hell, i got contacted 1 month after from a guy i met inside who was looking to cop.

Bottom line, personal accountability plus a strict, NO BS policy on future usage ( see AA) is the only thing that work.  I owe my life to that program.

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Re: Obama Asks for $1.1 Billion to Fight Opioid and Heroin Abuse
« Reply #15 on: February 06, 2016, 12:03:28 AM »
Ironic being that NATO runs heroin out of Afghanistan to fund their black ops.   


Lol, peace keeping black ops  ::)

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Re: Obama Asks for $1.1 Billion to Fight Opioid and Heroin Abuse
« Reply #16 on: February 06, 2016, 01:02:12 AM »
I don't want to pay for other's choices and I don't expect them to pay for mine.  Period.

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Re: Obama Asks for $1.1 Billion to Fight Opioid and Heroin Abuse
« Reply #17 on: February 06, 2016, 09:50:28 AM »
Would rather see 1.1 Billion going towards mental illness research.




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Re: Obama Asks for $1.1 Billion to Fight Opioid and Heroin Abuse
« Reply #18 on: February 06, 2016, 02:49:50 PM »
I assume you are a policeman or paramedic then as they take the brunt of the bullshit, especially in areas such as 51, 55 div

Powerlifting and squatting 600-700plus lbs is not exactly a safe activity, and sorry no we don't pay for it(medicare) directly we pay for it collectively. One of my relatives is a multi-millionaire for instance and he doesn't do anything of high risk physically yet he pays several hundred thousand a year in taxes, which is alot more than we pay, so yes, collectively. So perhaps he should get his money returned to him instead of having to pay for others operations when they get hurt doing what they think are safe activities.

so do you feel your 'first responder' brothers and sisters are scum when they fall into the trap of substance abuse or are weak minded losers because they can't cope with seeing dead babies, overdoses, etc etc etc? I don't anymore then when I see the crazy hooker who has probably become like that because she has been getting raped since the age of 8. I am not excusing behaviours either.

I have fair amount of friends and aquaintances who are/were involved in the first responder occupations among my recovery community and they far from being weak-minded people, as are most among my recovery friends. We all did varying degrees of stupidity during our time in addiction and all got into it for a variety of reasons. But substance abuse is huge in the first responder professions, especially alcohol, and despite all that gibberish about the law, drugs as well in fact!

Hell 90% of your musical interests have/had a substance abuse problem and/or have sponged off the system or done acts of depravity to live their art.


I get the frustration, but I don't get the hatred and holier than thou part, which is funny because you sound like one of those religious people who judge anyone who doesn't live by your moral code.

Anyways no hatred, just don't agree, and thanks for keeping the community well, safe by watching out for people when they need help




I appreciate your comments. Many have sunk deep within my psyche.

It's a tough situation, to be sure.

Again, thanks.

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Re: Obama Asks for $1.1 Billion to Fight Opioid and Heroin Abuse
« Reply #19 on: February 06, 2016, 06:55:27 PM »
This country is living on incredible debt and credit.  We are going to spend money on self induced illness?

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Re: Obama Asks for $1.1 Billion to Fight Opioid and Heroin Abuse
« Reply #20 on: February 06, 2016, 09:32:09 PM »
This will do nothing except increase debts.
Guess who will benefit.
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Re: Obama Asks for $1.1 Billion to Fight Opioid and Heroin Abuse
« Reply #21 on: February 07, 2016, 12:51:47 AM »
If you choose to use, you'll soon lose. Everything.

How is this Average Joe's business?

The weak are designed to ruin and kill themselves. It's natural law. Our "civilized" societies have stood in the way of natural law, with, for example, public monies being spent to prevent (Oh, brother) individuals from using and/or assisting in their rehabilitation.

I'm a taxpayer. I am 46 years old. Despite hardships on occasion, I have never been drunk, stoned, high, or otherwise willfully fucked up. Never smoked a cigarette. No, I'm not a hero. I am a responsible adult who is smart enough to not consider the use of alcohol and illicit substances a good decision.

If I ever did, it's not anyone else's responsibility to save my skin.

Fuck 'em. Die. Get lost. I don't care.

P.S. I am also a champion for the death penalty. And not just for 1st- or 2nd-degree murder, either. Some individuals are just not worth the effort to allow to stay alive.

  

The same way taxes are spent on stuff that is nobody's business - but minorities and selected dysfunctional groups that leeches on the functional.

You could argue that junkies can kill themselves so they eradicate their weak genes from the population.

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Re: Obama Asks for $1.1 Billion to Fight Opioid and Heroin Abuse
« Reply #22 on: February 07, 2016, 05:35:28 AM »

Lol, peace keeping black ops  ::)

Lol @ NATO being peacekeepers.  NATO runs heroin from Afghanistan out of a NATO base in Turkey.  NATO members creating, funding and arming ISIS.  Or, how about NATO’s violent overthrow of the Libyan government in 2011 creating a failed state?  Real peacekeepers alright.  ::)

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Re: Obama Asks for $1.1 Billion to Fight Opioid and Heroin Abuse
« Reply #23 on: February 07, 2016, 07:48:21 AM »
if anyone thinks this money would actually go directly to help anyone with an addiction I have swamp land to sell.

99% of the money will go to "awareness" campaigns(oh brother  ::) ), the rest to make work programs for people connected to the government.
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