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Re: Liberalism Is A Disease
« Reply #225 on: February 09, 2016, 06:12:17 PM »
"A Liberal is a power worshipper without the power" - George Orwell

Please...

Anyone who thinks trickle down economics works is the exact same way. Believing that corporations will trickle down money.

History has shown that to be extremely false, yet the people who are broke continue to believe the companies will take care of them.

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Re: Liberalism Is A Disease
« Reply #226 on: February 09, 2016, 06:38:10 PM »
Please...

Anyone who thinks trickle down economics works is the exact same way. Believing that corporations will trickle down money.

History has shown that to be extremely false, yet the people who are broke continue to believe the companies will take care of them.

Most white people vote Republican because they believe that the democrats will give all their hard earned money to people of color.  When the reality is that like 1% of what comes out of your check goes to welfare related programs half or more of which goes to poor white people.  They never care about the corporate welfare which believe me is much greater than social welfare. 

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Re: Liberalism Is A Disease
« Reply #227 on: February 09, 2016, 06:47:52 PM »
Most white people vote Republican because they believe that the democrats will give all their hard earned money to people of color.  When the reality is that like 1% of what comes out of your check goes to welfare related programs half or more of which goes to poor white people.  They never care about the corporate welfare which believe me is much greater than social welfare.  

Actually, I don't believe you:


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Re: Liberalism Is A Disease
« Reply #228 on: February 09, 2016, 06:48:53 PM »
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From Alan Bullock's, Hitler and Stalin: Parallel Lives:

page 173:

Gregor Strasser declared in a [Nazi] party periodical: 'We National Socialists are enemies, deadly enemies, of the present capitalist system with its exploitation of the economically weak...and we are resolved under all circumstances to destroy this system.

page 169:

They [Nazi Party in Berlin] developed a more radical form of National Socialism, appealing to a younger generation and picking up the anti-capitalist points from the party programme: the abolition of unearned income, ground rent and land speculation; the attack on 'interest slavery', finance capital and big department stores; the call for nationalization of heavy industry, profit-sharing and land reform. These demands were presented as a national 'German', idealist form of socialism, an alternative to the international, materialistic, levelling class war preached by the Marxist.

Sound pretty bloody socialist to me!

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Re: Liberalism Is A Disease
« Reply #229 on: February 09, 2016, 06:56:23 PM »
At the end of the day, it comes down to whether you believe the Government is an efficient allocator of resources.

In my state, NY, it's kinda hard to have that belief:


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Re: Liberalism Is A Disease
« Reply #230 on: February 09, 2016, 07:08:28 PM »
Actually, I don't believe you:



I believe the question really comes down to tax breaks. When there are lots of tax breaks for corporations and what not, they have not shown themselves to try to invest it into people.

A company is interested in one thing only... turning a profit.

Now before someone comes in and calls me a communist or a socialist. I have no problem with companies turning a profit, but if people believe that the company will invest that money into people, that is just not the case.

Companies will always do whatever it takes to maximize profits. If that means providing adequate services with minimal people, that's what they will do.

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Re: Liberalism Is A Disease
« Reply #231 on: February 09, 2016, 07:20:14 PM »

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Re: Liberalism Is A Disease
« Reply #232 on: February 09, 2016, 07:31:35 PM »
I believe the question really comes down to tax breaks. When there are lots of tax breaks for corporations and what not, they have not shown themselves to try to invest it into people.

A company is interested in one thing only... turning a profit.

Now before someone comes in and calls me a communist or a socialist. I have no problem with companies turning a profit, but if people believe that the company will invest that money into people, that is just not the case.

Companies will always do whatever it takes to maximize profits. If that means providing adequate services with minimal people, that's what they will do.

You're not a Communist. You just don't understand the Free Market system. Socialists make it into a labor vs management battle, but it's really all about satisfying the consumer. Profits go to the Producers who do the best job. It's not an accident that Apple and Google are the biggest companies in the world. It's because they provide the best service to the most people, and that's why Capital flows in their direction. Why would you want to take more money from innovative companies like these and give it to scummy politicians and useless bureaucrats?


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Re: Liberalism Is A Disease
« Reply #233 on: February 09, 2016, 07:49:59 PM »
You're not a Communist. You just don't understand the Free Market system. Socialists make it into a labor vs management battle, but it's really all about satisfying the consumer. Profits go to the Producers who do the best job. It's not an accident that Apple and Google are the biggest companies in the world. It's because they provide the best service to the most people, and that's why Capital flows in their direction. Why would you want to take more money from innovative companies like these and give it to scummy politicians and useless bureaucrats?




There is no such thing as a true free market due to government interference.
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Re: Liberalism Is A Disease
« Reply #234 on: February 09, 2016, 07:54:30 PM »
its 2008 all over again..

HOPE AND CHANGE.. HOPE AND CHANGE..


same bullcrap ya'll are falling for

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Re: Liberalism Is A Disease
« Reply #235 on: February 09, 2016, 08:09:21 PM »
That just does not line up with what actually took place in Plymouth.  No wonder why so many are fucked these days.  The teachers missed opportunity after opportunity of teaching fact, but instead, chose fiction.

They always say things learned as children are the hardest beliefs to shake.

Be neither ridiculous nor revisionist.  Unfortunately the statement quoted above is steeped in both.

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Re: Liberalism Is A Disease
« Reply #236 on: February 09, 2016, 08:12:57 PM »
Be neither ridiculous nor revisionist.  Unfortunately the statement quoted above is steeped in both.
I'm not.  I just posted what actually occurred in Plymouth.  If you have evidence to the contrary I am open to seeing it.  Post any of it at any time and I will read it.

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Re: Liberalism Is A Disease
« Reply #237 on: February 09, 2016, 08:17:53 PM »
I'm not.  I just posted what actually occurred in Plymouth.  If you have evidence to the contrary I am open to seeing it.  Post any of it at any time and I will read it.

You have disregarded my words.  So be it.  The evidence was in our texts and again, you have stated they are false.  You are open to all that agrees with you agenda.  Your choice.  Allow me to use a colloquialism.

FTN.

I shake the dust from my feet to mix with that of your mind.  Have fun preaching to a mirror.

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Re: Liberalism Is A Disease
« Reply #238 on: February 09, 2016, 08:22:53 PM »
You have disregarded my words.  So be it.  The evidence was in our texts and again, you have stated they are false.  You are open to all that agrees with you agenda.  Your choice.  Allow me to use a colloquialism.

FTN.

I shake the dust from my feet to mix with that of your mind.  Have fun preaching to a mirror.
I posted the actual form of government based on historical text and primary sources.  You posted something you recalled in 4th grade that was not even true.

Like I said, I am willing to look at your evidence, but if you have none, what can I do?  ???

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Re: Liberalism Is A Disease
« Reply #239 on: February 09, 2016, 09:00:01 PM »
From Alan Bullock's, Hitler and Stalin: Parallel Lives:

page 173:

Gregor Strasser declared in a [Nazi] party periodical: 'We National Socialists are enemies, deadly enemies, of the present capitalist system with its exploitation of the economically weak...and we are resolved under all circumstances to destroy this system.

page 169:

They [Nazi Party in Berlin] developed a more radical form of National Socialism, appealing to a younger generation and picking up the anti-capitalist points from the party programme: the abolition of unearned income, ground rent and land speculation; the attack on 'interest slavery', finance capital and big department stores; the call for nationalization of heavy industry, profit-sharing and land reform. These demands were presented as a national 'German', idealist form of socialism, an alternative to the international, materialistic, levelling class war preached by the Marxist.

Sound pretty bloody socialist to me!

And some of those things is what they said in their speeches too.

Both Germany and Italy called the Allies the 'Plutocracies' and Western Plutocracy, a group ruled by wealthy elites, international finance and banking cabals.


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Re: Liberalism Is A Disease
« Reply #240 on: February 09, 2016, 11:03:47 PM »
TomPaineCommonSense • a year ago

If Nazi Germany was socialist, how come all the corporate leaders, bankers, and military generals were able to make so much money and spirit it out of Germany through banks for themselves and their families? Why did their leading companies - steel, chemical, construction - make such fat profits from all the armaments, materiel? Why weren't profits distributed to the people if it were socialism? Why would a socialist state form such a close alliance with the fascist state of Italy? WWII Germany had elements of private enterprise, fascism, and socialism blended for the economic and political benefit of their elites, and because the people had little if any influence I would say socialism was the minor if not altogether missing element of their economic system
LMAO! You are fucking NAIVE!!
The reason SOCIALISM DOES NOT WORK, is BECAUSE HUMANS ARE GREEDY AND CORRUPT BY NATURE! Don't you know that already??? Just because the system says everyone will get even profits and distribution does not mean that's what's going to happen MORON! That was the whole point of Animal Farm. ALL ANIMALS ARE EQUAL, BUT SOME ANIMALS ARE MORE EQUAL THAN OTHERS. You see this in the "Black Lives Movement" today.

Wow, you're like a dumb fucking child. How do you survive??

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Re: Liberalism Is A Disease
« Reply #241 on: February 09, 2016, 11:08:12 PM »
"All forms of economics are forms of capitalism. All economics is capitalism. All human endeavor is man exerting his advantage over another."

-Anonymous

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Re: Liberalism Is A Disease
« Reply #242 on: February 09, 2016, 11:19:05 PM »
LOL, fucking moron. You are the stupidest man on earth; you don't even know what you believe in. The main distinctions between modern and classical liberalism revolve around the concepts of positive and negative freedoms, and economic solutions for ensuring liberty, Yet you're still rambling on about white guys!
Now Hitler is supposedly a democratic socialist too? LOL! He called himself a socialist because it was "fashionable": in the 20's and 30's, socialism was widely seen as the future and had a big effect upon political discourse. Hitler's goals were completely antithetical to any socialist ideals.

Lets not forget yesterday when you claimed that Orwell wrote Animal Farm to denounce his own socialist beliefs LOL.  

Please just stop posting, delete your account and go take all the piss-filled cups out of your room before your wife gets home!
HAHAHAHA. WELL IF IT ISN'T GETBIG'S OWN CaptainTampon!!!

Hi TAMPON!!! HOW are you??? How are my sandwiches coming along BITCH??!

Socialism will always be a failure because humans are corrupt and greedy by nature and those in power end up being shielded by big governments and police. Is there really any difference between HITLER and today's European governments? Over the weekend a White French General was arrested for speaking at a Pegida rally. Meanwhile Muslims can burn the French Flags as they please and none get arrested. Go read the news. Everywhere the governments are cracking down on White Europeans protesting the Muslim invasion and looking the other way when the Muslims rape and murder.

All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others. That was Orwell's critique of Socialism. It certainly does not look like an endorsement.

Now run along, get me my food and beer. And make sure you wash the dishes when you're done. Don't forget to clean my piss stained yoghurt buckets either!

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Re: Liberalism Is A Disease
« Reply #243 on: June 03, 2020, 09:19:51 AM »
Liberal Cities, Radical Mayhem: Democratic mayors and governors seem unable to stop the destruction of their own cities.
Wall Street Journal ^ | June 2, 2020 | WSJ Editorial Board
Posted on 6/3/2020, 11:27:08 AM by karpov

The “broken-windows” school of policing says that you can help maintain public order by taking care of even small examples of disorder—such as fixing broken windows. Liberals scorned that policy in the last decade as somehow racist. Well, in recent days we’ve learned that America’s left does have a broken-windows policy: Let rioters break enough windows and loot enough stores and maybe their righteous anger will be satisfied.

That’s certainly how it looked when the June sun rose Tuesday over the broken glass, looted storefronts, burnt-out cars, and vandalized buildings in New York, Philadelphia, St. Louis, Madison and other American cities. Public officials let rioters exploiting the memory of George Floyd run wild in the streets. Even after nearly a week of violence, these and other liberal Democratic cities let lawless radicals harass and plunder almost at will.

In downtown St. Louis, four police officers were shot after midnight. “I believe some coward randomly shot at the police line,” said police chief John Hayden. A 7-Eleven was looted and set afire, but firefighters were deliberately slowed by protesters in responding. “We had people lying down in the street” and trash cans were placed as obstacles to block fire trucks, said fire chief Dennis Jenkerson.

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What all these cities have in common is that they are led by Democrats who seem to have bought into the belief that the police are a bigger problem than rampant disorder. They are either cowed by their party’s left, or they agree that America is systemically racist and rioting is a justified expression of anger against it. They offer pro forma disapproval of law breakers but refuse to act to stop them.

They should recognize that widespread lawlessness is not helping their cause.

(Excerpt) Read more at wsj.com ...


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Re: Liberalism Is A Disease
« Reply #244 on: December 29, 2020, 07:24:51 AM »
'I'm open to suggestions': Democrat star Atlanta mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms admits she doesn't know how to stop alarming crime wave as seven-year-old girl is shot dead and city faces deadliest year in decades
UK Daily Mail ^ | December 29 2020 | ARIEL ZILBER FOR DAILYMAIL.COM and ASSOCIATED PRESS
Posted on 12/29/2020, 3:05:57


Atlanta Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms, a rising star in the Democratic Party who was recently considered for a position in President-elect Joe Biden's cabinet, is coming under fire for her administration's handling of a surge in violent crime in her city.

Saying she was 'open to suggestions' on stopping the crime wave, the mayor was on the defensive over the holiday weekend after three people were fatally shot in the city, bringing Atlanta's homicide count to its highest in more than two decades.

A 7-year-old girl who was shot in the head by a stray bullet after Christmas shopping with her family in Atlanta has died, marking another fatality in a city suffering from a spike in gun violence.

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Liberal equals total failure. 

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Re: Liberalism Is A Disease
« Reply #245 on: December 30, 2020, 04:11:06 PM »
'I'm open to suggestions': Democrat star Atlanta mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms admits she doesn't know how to stop alarming crime wave as seven-year-old girl is shot dead and city faces deadliest year in decades
UK Daily Mail ^ | December 29 2020 | ARIEL ZILBER FOR DAILYMAIL.COM and ASSOCIATED PRESS
Posted on 12/29/2020, 3:05:57


Atlanta Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms, a rising star in the Democratic Party who was recently considered for a position in President-elect Joe Biden's cabinet, is coming under fire for her administration's handling of a surge in violent crime in her city.

Saying she was 'open to suggestions' on stopping the crime wave, the mayor was on the defensive over the holiday weekend after three people were fatally shot in the city, bringing Atlanta's homicide count to its highest in more than two decades.

A 7-year-old girl who was shot in the head by a stray bullet after Christmas shopping with her family in Atlanta has died, marking another fatality in a city suffering from a spike in gun violence.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...







Liberal equals total failure.


Easy.. arrest all the white trump loving suburban Karen's and watch crime drop 90% at least!!


Damn white people


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Re: Liberalism Is A Disease
« Reply #246 on: December 31, 2020, 01:51:42 AM »
this is a good take on the persona of a SJW/liberal/leftist




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Re: Liberalism Is A Disease
« Reply #247 on: December 31, 2020, 02:45:57 PM »
'I'm open to suggestions': Democrat star Atlanta mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms admits she doesn't know how to stop alarming crime wave as seven-year-old girl is shot dead and city faces deadliest year in decades
UK Daily Mail ^ | December 29 2020 | ARIEL ZILBER FOR DAILYMAIL.COM and ASSOCIATED PRESS
Posted on 12/29/2020, 3:05:57


Atlanta Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms, a rising star in the Democratic Party who was recently considered for a position in President-elect Joe Biden's cabinet, is coming under fire for her administration's handling of a surge in violent crime in her city.

Saying she was 'open to suggestions' on stopping the crime wave, the mayor was on the defensive over the holiday weekend after three people were fatally shot in the city, bringing Atlanta's homicide count to its highest in more than two decades.

A 7-year-old girl who was shot in the head by a stray bullet after Christmas shopping with her family in Atlanta has died, marking another fatality in a city suffering from a spike in gun violence.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...







Liberal equals total failure.

She should take a page from the Mayor of Houston and just tell them to "chill".  ::)

Houston is turning into Chicago/Detroit rapidly.

Run by Liberals.

Lowered bonds for violent criminals. They have been murdering people a few days after out on bond.

Bonds set lower than a speeding ticket.

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Re: Liberalism Is A Disease
« Reply #248 on: December 31, 2020, 03:21:29 PM »
She should take a page from the Mayor of Houston and just tell them to "chill".  ::)

Houston is turning into Chicago/Detroit rapidly.

Run by Liberals.

Lowered bonds for violent criminals. They have been murdering people a few days after out on bond.

Bonds set lower than a speeding ticket.


Or take a page from former Baltimore Mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake, who said, "Because while we try to make sure that they were protected from the cars and other things that were going on, we also gave those who wished to destroy space to do that as well."

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Re: Liberalism Is A Disease
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