Mentzer, Munzer, Demayo, Dillet, Prince, all either died or end up in ICU from crazy Diuretic and Orals. Thats a BIG price to pay to look that dry. Name me a Bloated bodybuilder of today that is or was on his death bed, none. HGH and insulin (if you carb up) will not fry your insides or effect liver. They are not willing to die for us bitches, anymore