Author Topic: Apple vs. The Government (Read 24111 times)

Las Vegas · « **Reply #125 on:** February 21, 2016, 12:53:23 PM »

What would be the advantage to having it, though?

HTexan · « **Reply #126 on:** February 21, 2016, 12:54:55 PM »

Quote from: Las Vegas on February 21, 2016, 12:53:23 PM

What would be the advantage to having it, though?

There is no point, it is a legal liability, hence why they got rid of it in iOS 8.

Las Vegas · « **Reply #127 on:** February 21, 2016, 12:59:17 PM »

Quote from: HTexan on February 21, 2016, 12:54:55 PM

There is no point, it is a legal liability, hence why they got rid of it in iOS 8.

Why they "got rid of it"? You mean why they worked to destroy the ground that hackers had gained with the previous OS?

Isn't that what happened, or am I missing something?

HTexan · « **Reply #128 on:** February 21, 2016, 01:08:35 PM »

Quote from: Las Vegas on February 21, 2016, 12:59:17 PM

Why they "got rid of it"? You mean why they worked to destroy the ground that hackers had gained with the previous OS?

Isn't that what happened, or am I missing something?

you're missing a lot. And i do believe you are too stupid to understand it, so I won't try to explain it to you.

Never1AShow · « **Reply #129 on:** February 21, 2016, 01:12:18 PM »

Quote from: HTexan on February 21, 2016, 01:08:35 PM

you're missing a lot. And i do believe you are too stupid to understand it, so I won't try to explain it to you.

They have it. They know they will be forced to turn it over. All this is just theater and a marketing ploy so they can pretend otherwise.

Las Vegas · « **Reply #130 on:** February 21, 2016, 01:21:05 PM »

Quote from: HTexan on February 21, 2016, 01:08:35 PM

you're missing a lot. And i do believe you are too stupid to understand it, so I won't try to explain it to you.

And you ain't no steer, so let's leave it at that.

Las Vegas · « **Reply #131 on:** February 21, 2016, 01:22:25 PM »

Quote from: Never1AShow on February 21, 2016, 01:12:18 PM

They have it. They know they will be forced to turn it over. All this is just theater and a marketing ploy so they can pretend otherwise.

But what would be the advantage to having that?

HTexan · « **Reply #132 on:** February 21, 2016, 01:28:06 PM »

Quote from: Las Vegas on February 21, 2016, 01:21:05 PM

And you ain't no steer, so let's leave it at that.

of course i got balls, unlike you my little stupid friend.

Las Vegas · « **Reply #133 on:** February 21, 2016, 01:33:11 PM »

Quote from: HTexan on February 21, 2016, 01:28:06 PM

of course i got balls, unlike you my little stupid friend.

Fairly useless on a person such as yourself, though.

Perhaps you could exchange them for a brain.

Las Vegas · « **Reply #134 on:** February 21, 2016, 01:34:16 PM »

All in fun!

HTexan · « **Reply #135 on:** February 21, 2016, 01:50:44 PM »

Quote from: Las Vegas on February 21, 2016, 01:33:11 PM

Fairly useless on a person such as yourself, though.

Perhaps you could exchange them for a brain.

very original joke there,

just like what i would expect from a stupid fuck like you.

Never1AShow · « **Reply #136 on:** February 21, 2016, 01:59:26 PM »

Quote from: Las Vegas on February 21, 2016, 01:22:25 PM

But what would be the advantage to having that?

The advantage would be you could open your employees cell phones if you wanted to, you could recover stuff that might be lost otherwise, if Tim Cook forgot his password or got locked out, you could open his phone and not get fired. I'm sure there are lots more people could come up with.

Las Vegas · « **Reply #137 on:** February 21, 2016, 02:03:06 PM »

Quote from: Never1AShow on February 21, 2016, 01:59:26 PM

The advantage would be you could open your employees cell phones if you wanted to, you could recover stuff that might be lost otherwise, if Tim Cook forgot his password or got locked out, you could open his phone and not get fired. I'm sure there are lots more people could come up with.

What locations in the phone or what type of information can you imagine them going after, that could only be had by going into the phone itself? Can't be that much shit that could apply these days, no matter what the individual security settings. Or is there?

Las Vegas · « **Reply #138 on:** February 21, 2016, 02:06:00 PM »

Quote from: Never1AShow on February 21, 2016, 01:59:26 PM

The advantage would be you could open your employees cell phones if you wanted to, you could recover stuff that might be lost otherwise, if Tim Cook forgot his password or got locked out, you could open his phone and not get fired. I'm sure there are lots more people could come up with.

For them, you mean? With their knowledge, you're saying?

OB1 · « **Reply #139 on:** February 21, 2016, 02:10:40 PM »

http://appleinsider.com/articles/15/01/21/nsa-leaker-edward-snowden-refuses-to-use-apples-iphone-over-spying-concerns---report

Al Doggity · « **Reply #140 on:** February 21, 2016, 05:50:41 PM »

Quote from: Never1AShow on February 21, 2016, 01:12:18 PM

They have it. They know they will be forced to turn it over. All this is just theater and a marketing ploy so they can pretend otherwise.

Your argument makes no linear sense. You're saying that they A) have been unlocking phones for the gov for years B)randomly decided to stop unlocking phones C) created a backdoor which, incidentally, also creates a legal liability for them D) engaged in a highly publicized fight with the government which would only draw attention to the alleged backdoor if it exists?

This is bonkers. If they've been unlocking phones for years, why randomly stop now? If they're so concerned with their marketing strategy, why create the key in the first place? Why draw attention to its eventual release to the government with a high profile court case that could possibly set a legal precedent?

The Abdominal Snoman · « **Reply #141 on:** February 21, 2016, 10:09:31 PM »

Quote from: OB1 on February 21, 2016, 12:29:46 PM

Exactly.
The smartphone has been mainly developed to track its user's activities.
Its other functions are merely add-ons.

Most people on here think Facebook is just a place to stay connected with "friends". It's probably the most advanced piece of information gathering site but people will tell you it was just made for fun.lol

phreak · « **Reply #142 on:** February 22, 2016, 12:45:01 AM »

Quote from: The Abdominal Snoman on February 21, 2016, 10:09:31 PM

Most people on here think Facebook is just a place to stay connected with "friends". It's probably the most advanced piece of information gathering site but people will tell you it was just made for fun.lol

Truth. In fact lately I have been very impressed (and horrified) at how amazing their algorithms truly are. I have a tablet that I only use at home, for only one purpose, with a facebook account that I also only use for that same purpose (strongman-related stuff). And still I am now getting friend suggestions for bitches that I fucked once or twice years ago, and live dozens of miles away. That I did not even talk to on social media! Amazing stuff, but scary.

Las Vegas · « **Reply #143 on:** February 22, 2016, 07:18:24 AM »

Quote from: The Abdominal Snoman on February 21, 2016, 10:09:31 PM

Most people on here think Facebook is just a place to stay connected with "friends". It's probably the most advanced piece of information gathering site but people will tell you it was just made for fun.lol

X2 One of the worst things to happen in modern society. Why anyone in a right mind would touch FB, I'll never know

Every time I see Mark Suckerberg, I have visions of stomping him into the concrete (as the saying goes, of course). I can't imagine disliking a person much worse than I do him. I understand he's an empty suit at FB, but there's just something about him.

And who do you suppose fucked his chinagirl wife? Perhaps a case of gay porn and a turkey baster, because no way a fruit loop like him is producing a child in any normal fashion.

Kim Jong Bob · « **Reply #144 on:** February 22, 2016, 08:08:28 AM »

Quote from: HTexan on February 21, 2016, 01:08:35 PM

you're missing a lot. And i do believe you are too stupid to understand it, so I won't try to explain it to you.

Las Vegas · « **Reply #145 on:** February 22, 2016, 08:12:57 AM »

Quote from: Kim Jong Bob on February 22, 2016, 08:08:28 AM

His way of saying he can't explain it.

HTexan · « **Reply #146 on:** February 22, 2016, 08:31:01 AM »

Quote from: Kim Jong Bob on February 22, 2016, 08:08:28 AM

Quote from: Las Vegas on February 22, 2016, 08:12:57 AM

His way of saying he can't explain it.

See, bob. Dude is stupid as fuck. hahaha

Las Vegas · « **Reply #147 on:** February 22, 2016, 08:35:13 AM »

Quote from: HTexan on February 22, 2016, 08:31:01 AM

See, bob. Dude is stupid as fuck. hahaha

HTexan grasping to find Allies.

Yamcha · « **Reply #148 on:** February 22, 2016, 09:05:05 AM »

North Korea would be a powerful ally

Al Doggity · « **Reply #149 on:** February 22, 2016, 10:35:01 AM »

Quote from: The Abdominal Snoman on February 21, 2016, 10:09:31 PM

Most people on here think Facebook is just a place to stay connected with "friends". It's probably the most advanced piece of information gathering site but people will tell you it was just made for fun.lol

This has nothing to do with what most people have been arguing in this thread and it's hardly a secret. Most people who use Facebook and then leave do so because of privacy concerns. Facebook isn't secretive about their information gathering.

Whether or not Facebook or Apple products gather a ton of information is not the issue. Whether that information is readily accessible by the government is the issue.