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Re: A carb is a carb, Cephissus destroys glycemic index myth
« Reply #125 on: February 21, 2016, 12:34:00 PM »
Quote from: SF1900 on February 21, 2016, 10:08:49 AM
Chicken and potatoes.


That looks delicious.

Thank you for posting.
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Re: A carb is a carb, Cephissus destroys glycemic index myth
« Reply #126 on: February 21, 2016, 12:36:10 PM »
Quote from: Never1AShow on February 21, 2016, 12:29:02 PM
Cephissus's chart seemed to show that whether you call it a complex carb or a simple carb, and regardless of the chemical composition, except for a few outliers they affect the blood sugar and insulin pretty similarly.

This means there's a heck of a lot of bro science and people talking out of their asses about the differences between carbs and their effect on the body.


First of all we don't know if this is actually a true representation of what has been done or even if it has really been done.
Second this chart doesn't take time into account.

If you would take some measurements over time (let's say every 2 mins) there will be a significant difference between simple carbs and complex carbs.
Also the effect on the body is very different.

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Re: A carb is a carb, Cephissus destroys glycemic index myth
« Reply #127 on: February 21, 2016, 12:40:24 PM »
the glycemic chart is BS anyway, we never eat just a potato as a meal anyway. The meal with have fats and carbs redering this whole debate totally and completely useless.

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Re: A carb is a carb, Cephissus destroys glycemic index myth
« Reply #128 on: February 21, 2016, 12:41:28 PM »
Quote from: ritch on February 21, 2016, 12:40:24 PM
the glycemic chart is BS anyway, we never eat just a potato as a meal anyway. The meal with have fats and carbs redering this whole debate's totally and completely useless.



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Re: A carb is a carb, Cephissus destroys glycemic index myth
« Reply #129 on: February 21, 2016, 12:46:02 PM »
I just ate a baked potato and pot roast.

If I eat a piece of cake, will the carbs from cake be the same as the carbs in the baked potato?
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Re: A carb is a carb, Cephissus destroys glycemic index myth
« Reply #130 on: February 21, 2016, 12:46:45 PM »
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Re: A carb is a carb, Cephissus destroys glycemic index myth
« Reply #131 on: February 21, 2016, 12:48:25 PM »
Quote from: SF1900 on February 21, 2016, 12:46:02 PM
I just ate a baked potato and pot roast.

If I eat a piece of cake, will the carbs from cake be the same as the carbs in the baked potato?
you have already posted evidence yourself that they are not.
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Re: A carb is a carb, Cephissus destroys glycemic index myth
« Reply #132 on: February 21, 2016, 12:48:48 PM »
Quote from: SF1900 on February 21, 2016, 12:46:02 PM
I just ate a baked potato and pot roast.

If I eat a piece of cake, will the carbs from cake be the same as the carbs in the baked potato?


The piece of cake will most likely contain more simple carbs whereas the potato will have more complex carbs by nature.

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Re: A carb is a carb, Cephissus destroys glycemic index myth
« Reply #133 on: February 21, 2016, 12:50:26 PM »
Quote from: OB1 on February 21, 2016, 12:48:48 PM

The piece of cake will most likely contain more simple carbs whereas the potato will have more complex carbs by nature.



What if you use potato flour in the cake?

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Re: A carb is a carb, Cephissus destroys glycemic index myth
« Reply #134 on: February 21, 2016, 12:51:54 PM »
Quote from: Yamcha on February 21, 2016, 12:50:26 PM
What if you use potato flour in the cake?



LOL.
Who would want to do that?
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Re: A carb is a carb, Cephissus destroys glycemic index myth
« Reply #135 on: February 21, 2016, 12:55:54 PM »
Quote from: OB1 on February 21, 2016, 12:51:54 PM
LOL.
Who would want to do that?


Cissyfits
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Re: A carb is a carb, Cephissus destroys glycemic index myth
« Reply #136 on: February 21, 2016, 01:14:57 PM »
Quote from: Be There on February 21, 2016, 12:48:25 PM
you have already posted evidence yourself that they are not.

Perhaps, but after much contemplation, I am beginning to think I am wrong. Thus, I need the continued guidance of getbiggers.
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Re: A carb is a carb, Cephissus destroys glycemic index myth
« Reply #137 on: February 21, 2016, 01:17:41 PM »
Quote from: SF1900 on February 21, 2016, 01:14:57 PM
Perhaps, but after much contemplation, I am beginning to think I am wrong. Thus, I need the continued guidance of getbiggers.

LOL!!!! Don't we all...

But carefully worded everything perfectly here. "beginning to think" meaning, not there yet. "perhaps" not confirming....

Well played!
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Re: A carb is a carb, Cephissus destroys glycemic index myth
« Reply #138 on: February 21, 2016, 01:17:47 PM »
Quote from: OB1 on February 21, 2016, 12:48:48 PM

The piece of cake will most likely contain more simple carbs whereas the potato will have more complex carbs by nature.



What are more healthy for you, simple or complex carbs?
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Re: A carb is a carb, Cephissus destroys glycemic index myth
« Reply #139 on: February 21, 2016, 01:18:07 PM »
Quote from: SF1900 on February 21, 2016, 01:14:57 PM
Perhaps, but after much contemplation, I am beginning to think I am wrong. Thus, I need the continued guidance of getbiggers.

I may be wrong also.
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Re: A carb is a carb, Cephissus destroys glycemic index myth
« Reply #140 on: February 21, 2016, 01:18:49 PM »
Quote from: ritch on February 21, 2016, 01:17:41 PM
LOL!!!! Don't we all...

But carefully worded everything perfectly here. "beginning to think" meaning, not there yet. "perhaps" not confirming....

Well played!

Getbiggers must always keep an open mind for new information.
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Re: A carb is a carb, Cephissus destroys glycemic index myth
« Reply #141 on: February 21, 2016, 01:19:28 PM »
Quote from: SF1900 on February 21, 2016, 01:17:47 PM
What are more healthy for you, simple or complex carbs?

Each has their place.
A diabetic might be more qualified to answer.
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Re: A carb is a carb, Cephissus destroys glycemic index myth
« Reply #142 on: February 21, 2016, 01:23:33 PM »
Quote from: OB1 on February 21, 2016, 01:19:28 PM
Each has their place.
A diabetic might be more qualified to answer.


I just ate ice cream.
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Re: A carb is a carb, Cephissus destroys glycemic index myth
« Reply #143 on: February 21, 2016, 01:24:38 PM »
Quote from: SF1900 on February 21, 2016, 01:23:33 PM
I just ate ice cream.

Ice cream.
I never understood the hype.
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Re: A carb is a carb, Cephissus destroys glycemic index myth
« Reply #144 on: February 21, 2016, 02:09:41 PM »
Quote from: SF1900 on February 21, 2016, 12:46:02 PM
I just ate a baked potato and pot roast.

If I eat a piece of cake, will the carbs from cake be the same as the carbs in the baked potato?

My guess is it redlines your blood glucose and insulin because the cake sugar can be very easily assimilated, but you are right, who knows and this whole discussion is something of a demonstration of how little we know.

I'd want an implant that measures blood sugar 24/7 wirelessly hooked up to my computer to monitor this over a long period of time.
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Re: A carb is a carb, Cephissus destroys glycemic index myth
« Reply #145 on: February 21, 2016, 02:12:52 PM »
Quote from: OB1 on February 21, 2016, 01:24:38 PM
Ice cream.
I never understood the hype.


you dont know what youre missing.
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Re: A carb is a carb, Cephissus destroys glycemic index myth
« Reply #146 on: February 21, 2016, 02:56:01 PM »
Quote from: OB1 on February 21, 2016, 01:24:38 PM
Ice cream.
I never understood the hype.


poor people will never understand the nicer things in life.

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Re: A carb is a carb, Cephissus destroys glycemic index myth
« Reply #147 on: February 21, 2016, 04:24:10 PM »
Quote from: Yamcha on February 21, 2016, 02:56:01 PM
poor people will never understand the nicer things in life.

 :D

I think a lot of really delicious cuisine is the result of poor people trying to make deliciois food.  Stuff like chop sued and soulf food.
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Re: A carb is a carb, Cephissus destroys glycemic index myth
« Reply #148 on: February 21, 2016, 08:11:15 PM »
So eating some rice warmed up with a little butter in order to avoid eating pie and ice cream like I did tonight was a fools errand?
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Re: A carb is a carb, Cephissus destroys glycemic index myth
« Reply #149 on: February 21, 2016, 08:13:29 PM »
Quote from: Never1AShow on February 21, 2016, 08:11:15 PM
So eating some rice warmed up with a little butter in order to avoid eating pie and ice cream like I did tonight was a fools errand?

No.
Way to go.
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