Good read about dogs and all the genetic problems caused by humans

[Radical Plato]

People who have tried to raise wolves usually are very cautious. They attack humans when they see or perceive weakness. Read this:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Domesticated_Red_Fox

The silver fox experiment was about showing how behaviour could be selected for, thereby creating extremely tame dogs via generations of breeding only the tamest foxes and creating extremely vicious wild dogs by selecting and breeding only the most vicious. But dog breeders have long known this, especially breeders of fighting dogs.  

And wolves don't attack based on sensing weakness, they attack for food or to defend, when seeking food they may choose a weak target, but they don't attack just because they sense weakness. Like most wild animals, dogs try and avoid any unnecessary conflict. It amazes me how much bullshit gets thrown around about dogs as if it was fact.

[Tapeworm]

So people think they are rescuing a dog but they are actually causing healthy dogs to suffer and die by participating in the pet industry.

   I found my dog wandering the streets, malnourished as hell, and didn't have it in me to just drive away after he hung around me at work all that day 16 years ago.  Turned out he belonged to a bunch of boongs who, by their own admission, never fed him and let him wander around so he could find food.  Yeah, I'm pretty sure I rescued this dog.

[The True Adonis]

I have known this for so long and used to preach about how shitty the whole entire pet industry is.  They treat dogs (and cats) as a commodity, breed to excess and destroy the surplus. So people think they are rescuing a dog but they are actually causing healthy dogs to suffer and die by participating in the pet industry.  Not to mention the genetic deformities bred into dogs through selective breeding.  I think pet ownership highlights the worst of human nature and not the best.  Amazing how people can feel good about such a perverse industry. But hey, who cares about the rights of animals when they make you feel good, right.

Greyhounds do not exhibit any genetic deformities at all because they are bred for speed.  As a result, all the traits associated with it, (including the brain becoming larger) are beneficial.

I can't speak for other breeds of dogs, however Border Collies also seem to be at the top of the gene pool for what they have been bred for and as a result exhibit remarkable traits that enhance its life.

[Papper]

People who have tried to raise wolves usually are very cautious. They attack humans when they see or perceive weakness. Read this:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Domesticated_Red_Fox

Thanks will do

[Radical Plato]

 I found my dog wandering the streets, malnourished as hell, and didn't have it in me to just drive away after he hung around me at work all that day 16 years ago.  Turned out he belonged to a bunch of boongs who, by their own admission, never fed him and let him wander around so he could find food.  Yeah, I'm pretty sure I rescued this dog.

Great you think so, but the pet industry causes this to happen. If there was no pet industry, no animal mistreatment could happen in the first place. And people like you are the target audience, people who think they are helping when in fact they are part of the problem.  So while you rescued some mutt, you fed the industry ensuring that some other poor mutts will lose their life. (I guess you chose to ignore that because then you wouldn't feel so great about your decision). Remove the market for pets and you remove the problem, but then how are the do-gooders like yourself going to feel good about themselves?

[funk51]

an austalian shepard lived to be 29 years and several monthes old....210 in people years...

[wes]

2 of my 3 dogs are 14 and 12 and just like pups as far as energy goes.

I like dogs better than most people I know.

[Radical Plato]

2 of my 3 dogs are 14 and 12 and just like pups as far as energy goes.

I like dogs better than most people I know.

Everyone I know who loves dogs more than people is a shitty human being who couldn't generate loving relationships with others, so turned to dogs because they could control the relationship and remain a cun+, therefore never having to develop a personality that others would warm to.  It's one thing to love dogs, but to love them more than people, that's just plain wrong.

[Tapeworm]

Great you think so, but the pet industry causes this to happen. If there was no pet industry, no animal mistreatment could happen in the first place. And people like you are the target audience, people who think they are helping when in fact they are part of the problem.  So while you rescued some mutt, you fed the industry ensuring that some other poor mutts will lose their life. (I guess you chose to ignore that because then you wouldn't feel so great about your decision). Remove the market for pets and you remove the problem, but then how are the do-gooders like yourself going to feel good about themselves?

Idk.  I guess I could get my thrills going online and telling people that they're no good.  Evidently works for some.

My dog says you're full of shit tho.

[Radical Plato]

Idk.  I guess I could get my thrills going online and telling people that they're no good.  Evidently works for some.

My dog says you're full of shit tho.

Well, in my book, if people participate in harming animals, they are no good, even if it is by naively feeding a sick industry under the pretense they are doing good. Ignorance is no excuse.  The old saying "The path to hell is paved with good intentions" fits the pet industry to a tee.

The fact is, pet ownership is 100% selfish, it has nothing to do with the rights and needs of animals but the needs and drives of the owner.

[polychronopolous]

I went to Olan Mills a few years back and had a few photos done with my pet rottweiler.

[Tapeworm]

I hope you're trolling, dude.  Trying to equate the intentions of someone taking home a dog that is going to die to profit driven breeders who create dogs too fucked up to live is just odd.  

People should be encouraged to rescue, yes rescue, an already existing dog from the pound.  That's good pet industry right there.  Way better pet industry than paying thousands for a purebreed so pure it can't breathe.

Lol, how am I even arguing this with you?  No one is going to agree with you that rescuing a dog is an evil thing to do.  Weirdo.

[_aj_]

I hope you're trolling, dude.  Trying to equate the intentions of someone taking home a dog that is going to die to profit driven breeders who create dogs too fucked up to live is just odd.  

People should be encouraged to rescue, yes rescue, an already existing dog from the pound.  That's good pet industry right there.  Way better pet industry than paying thousands for a purebreed so pure it can't breathe.

Lol, how am I even arguing this with you?  No one is going to agree with you that rescuing a dog is an evil thing to do.  Weirdo.

I have 3 rescue dogs and a rescue cat. Wouldn't have it any other way.

[Tapeworm]

I have a rescue dog but he can't fly the helicopter for shit.  Can't even put a bandaid on someone.  I'd fire him but he's a volunteer.

[wes]

Everyone I know who loves dogs more than people is a shitty human being who couldn't generate loving relationships with others, so turned to dogs because they could control the relationship and remain a cun+, therefore never having to develop a personality that others would warm to.  It's one thing to love dogs, but to love them more than people, that's just plain wrong.

Go fuck yourself dickhead.

If I saw you right now I`d crack your fucking skull.

[Radical Plato]

Go fuck yourself dickhead.

If I saw you right now I`d crack your fucking skull.

Like I said, shitty human beings with crappy personalities.

[Radical Plato]

I hope you're trolling, dude.  Trying to equate the intentions of someone taking home a dog that is going to die to profit driven breeders who create dogs too fucked up to live is just odd.  

People should be encouraged to rescue, yes rescue, an already existing dog from the pound.  That's good pet industry right there.  Way better pet industry than paying thousands for a purebreed so pure it can't breathe.

Lol, how am I even arguing this with you?  No one is going to agree with you that rescuing a dog is an evil thing to do.  Weirdo.

Although rescuing is better than buying from a breeder, it is still part of the problem.  And many people agree with me, PETA, an animal rights organization also believes that it would be in the animal's’ best interests if the institution of “pet keeping”—i.e., breeding animals to be kept and regarded as “pets”—never existed.  The fact so many people get mad at me pointing out the obvious shows you right there they know the truth.  Like I said, pet ownership is about the human owner, they couldn't give a fuck how many animals die because of it.  If they did care they would hold the same views as me.  I know how stubbornly do-gooders hold onto the beliefs they are doing the right thing by animals by so called rescuing a dog, they do this because they have a need to feel good about themselves regardless of the cost to other life.  The more saintly they view themselves, the more aggressively they react to someone pointing out the harm they are doing. I gave up years ago trying to do anything about it, the evil of do-gooders is almost impossible to overcome, mainly because they are in denial about the evil they participate in, as the comments in reaction to my views will prove sufficiently.

[_aj_]

Although rescuing is better than buying from a breeder, it is still part of the problem.  And many people agree with me, PETA, an animal rights organization also believes that it would be in the animal's’ best interests if the institution of “pet keeping”—i.e., breeding animals to be kept and regarded as “pets”—never existed.  The fact so many people get mad at me pointing out the obvious shows you right there they know the truth.  Like I said, pet ownership is about the human owner, they couldn't give a fuck how many animals die because of it.  If they did care they would hold the same views as me.  I know how stubbornly do-gooders hold onto the beliefs they are doing the right thing by animals by so called rescuing a dog, they do this because they have a need to feel good about themselves regardless of the cost to other life.  The more saintly they view themselves, the more aggressively they react to someone pointing out the harm they are doing. I gave up years ago trying to do anything about it, the evil of do-gooders is almost impossible to overcome, mainly because they are in denial about the evil they participate in.

So what's your plan? Just execute all of the animals bred for pets? That's your "humane" solution? I have an idea: why don't you and PETA go fuck yourselves.

[The True Adonis]

Everyone I know who loves dogs more than people is a shitty human being who couldn't generate loving relationships with others, so turned to dogs because they could control the relationship and remain a cun+, therefore never having to develop a personality that others would warm to.  It's one thing to love dogs, but to love them more than people, that's just plain wrong.

You can't even maintain or develop a loving lasting relationship with your family, let alone a woman.  You speaking on relationships of any kind is just retarded.

[wes]

Like I said, shitty human beings with crappy personalities.

Your mom likes me immensely pal.

[Radical Plato]

You can't even maintain or develop a loving lasting relationship with your family, let alone a woman.  You speaking on relationships of any kind is just retarded.

You know nothing of my relationships or their status. And I have relationships with some members of my family and choose not to have relationships with other members, and it is no coincidence that in my family the ones who happen to be extreme dog lovers are the most difficult personalities also. I have verified this time and time again, and again once more here at getbig. So I see my comment has brought the dog loving misanthropes out of the woodwork happy to prove my point.

And your comment once again reflects your ignorance, you automatically assume that you should have a loving relationship with your family, this is a recipe for disaster if you come from a dysfunctional or abusive family.  I save my love for those who deserve it.  I have many valued relationships outside of my family, those I love dearly and who return the sentiment.

[Radical Plato]

So what's your plan? Just execute all of the animals bred for pets? That's your "humane" solution? I have an idea: why don't you and PETA go fuck yourselves.

No, you stop breeding them moron, simple.  This makes the current population the last generation.  Amazing how you have to spell out the obvious to some dog lovers who seem even dumber than the dogs they love.

And you support the current situation, perpetual destruction of unwanted healthy dogs.  You are a cun+ of a human being if that is your solution.

[The True Adonis]

You know nothing of my relationships or their status. And I have relationships with some members of my family and choose not to have relationships with other members, and it is no coincidence that in my family the ones who happen to be extreme dog lovers are the most difficult personalities also. I have verified this time and time again, and again once more here at getbig. So I see my comment has brought the dog loving misanthropes out of the woodwork happy to prove my point.

And your comment once again reflects your ignorance, you automatically assume that you should have a loving relationship with your family, this is a recipe for disaster if you come from a dysfunctional or abusive family.  I save my love for those who deserve it.  I have many valued relationships outside of my family, those I love dearly and who return the sentiment.

1. Hate Family-Check
           2. Hate Women-Check
           3. Hate Dogs-Check

Wow, you are a nice catch.

[Radical Plato]

1. Hate Family-Check
           2. Hate Women-Check
           3. Hate Dogs-Check

Wow, you are a nice catch.

1. Wrong about everything - check
2. Thinks they love dogs even though they participate in an industry that destroys them ad infinitum - Check
3. Hates humanity - Check
4. Projects shitty personality onto everyone else - Check

Wow, awesome human being.

[Bindare_Dundat]

You know nothing of my relationships or their status. And I have relationships with some members of my family and choose not to have relationships with other members, and it is no coincidence that in my family the ones who happen to be extreme dog lovers are the most difficult personalities also. I have verified this time and time again, and again once more here at getbig. So I see my comment has brought the dog loving misanthropes out of the woodwork happy to prove my point.

And your comment once again reflects your ignorance, you automatically assume that you should have a loving relationship with your family, this is a recipe for disaster if you come from a dysfunctional or abusive family.  I save my love for those who deserve it.  I have many valued relationships outside of my family, those I love dearly and who return the sentiment.

Holy fuck, you sound like a total wank.