I've ran Spa Oxandrolone from Italy. 2.5 mg tabs, and you needed no more than 15-20 mg per day. Upsher-Smith Var 10mg tabs, no more than 20 mg per day. Currently run 25mg of Oxandrolone troches, all three top notch. You do not need a big dose of legit var, anyone that says different doesn't know shit. It, to me is the best oral there is. Unless you're getting it with a script on it, you're more than likely getting Winstrol, if anything. Var is expensive. Very often faked. I've used one UGL var that was pretty close to pharm var, that was it. You'll get strong, very tight, painful pumps. Endurance goes way up with it. Only downside is heartburn. Can be harsh on HDL as well.