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Trump vows to 'rip up' all trade agreements
« on: March 04, 2016, 12:48:45 PM »
This man is insane.   What a fun shitshow to watch!



Trump argued that he would greatly improve U.S. relationships with nations such as Mexico and China while lowering trade deficits.

"I’m going to rip up those trade deals and we’re going to make really good ones,” he said during a campaign stop in Portland, Maine.

He lashed out at 2012 GOP nominee Mitt Romney for saying that a Trump presidency would ruin free trade for the United States.

“Ruin free trade?” Trump said. "If I’m losing $505 billion with China, if I’m losing $58 billion a year with Mexico, in terms of deficit, why do I want that kind of trade for anyway," Trump said.

"Ruin it? Who needs that kind of trade, seriously who needs that kind of trade,” Trump said.

Read more: http://thehill.com/policy/finance/271723-trump-vows-to-rip-up-all-trade-agreements

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Re: Trump vows to 'rip up' all trade agreements
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2016, 02:22:44 PM »
Fox did a focus group just a few nights ago and over 80% of the potential GOP voters there said they agreed with Trump on trade.

The GOP and especially the conservative wing needs a wake up call. The party is changing rapidly before their very eyes.

People who are seeing their jobs going overseas and even being replaced in their own country by foreign workers because of cheaper wages don't worship the altar of free trade like a decade or 2 ago.

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Re: Trump vows to 'rip up' all trade agreements
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2016, 02:34:42 PM »
Fox did a focus group just a few nights ago and over 80% of the potential GOP voters there said they agreed with Trump on trade.

The GOP and especially the conservative wing needs a wake up call. The party is changing rapidly before their very eyes.

People who are seeing their jobs going overseas and even being replaced in their own country by foreign workers because of cheaper wages don't worship the altar of free trade like a decade or 2 ago.

All employment growth since 2000, has gone to illegal workers, H1-B, etc.  All immigrants.

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Re: Trump vows to 'rip up' all trade agreements
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2016, 02:38:04 PM »
All employment growth since 2000, has gone to illegal workers, H1-B, etc.  All immigrants.

Just Terrible.

As I heard stated the other day "Blue collar(and white to some degree) workers cannot "eat" conservative talking points and talk radio. Rhetoric only takes you so far.

People are seeing the current job situation in this country and are furious.

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Re: Trump vows to 'rip up' all trade agreements
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2016, 02:52:45 PM »
All employment growth since 2000, has gone to illegal workers, H1-B, etc.  All immigrants.

That's not true.

Illegal workers are not reported to employment metrics because they are illegal.

Now, the H1-B visas perhaps, but this is no different than the early 2000s under the .com bubble. The people who are the consumers are the ones who ultimately dictate this.

If they stop using companies who are surrounded with immigrant work visas, then the companies will have to stop using them.

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Re: Trump vows to 'rip up' all trade agreements
« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2016, 02:58:29 PM »
That's not true.

Illegal workers are not reported to employment metrics because they are illegal.

Now, the H1-B visas perhaps, but this is no different than the early 2000s under the .com bubble. The people who are the consumers are the ones who ultimately dictate this.

If they stop using companies who are surrounded with immigrant work visas, then the companies will have to stop using them.

This says otherwise:

Study: All Employment Growth Since 2000 Went to Immigrants

According to a major new report from the Center for Immigration Studies (CIS), net employment growth in the United States since 2000 has gone entirely to immigrants, legal and illegal. Using data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, CIS scholars Steven A. Camarota and Karen Zeigler found that there were 127,000 fewer working-age natives holding a job in the first quarter of 2014 than in 2000, while the number of immigrants with a job was 5.7 million above the 2000 level.

The rapidity with which immigrants recovered from the Great Recession, as well as the fact that they held a disproportionate share of jobs relative to their share of population growth before the recession, help to explain their findings, the authors report. In addition, native-born Americans and immigrants were affected differently by the recession.

Other significant findings include:

        *Because the native-born population grew significantly, but the number working actually fell, there were 17 million more working-age natives not working in the first quarter of 2014 than in 2000.

        *The share of natives working or looking for work, referred to as labor force participation, shows the same decline as the employment rate. In fact, labor force participation has continued to decline for working-age natives even after the jobs recovery began in 2010.

        *Immigrants have made gains across the labor market, including lower-skilled jobs such as maintenance, construction, and food service; middle-skilled jobs like office support and health care support; and high­er-skilled jobs, including management, computers, and health care practitioners.

        *The supply of potential workers is enormous: 8.7 million native college graduates are not working, as are 17 million with some college, and 25.3 million with no more than a high school education.

According to the study, 58 million working-age natives are not employed.

Camarota and Zeigler report three conclusions:

        *First, the long-term decline in the employment for natives across age and education levels is a clear in­dication that there is no general labor shortage, which is a primary justification for the large increases in immigration (skilled and unskilled) in the Schumer-Rubio bill and similar House proposals.

        *Second, the decline in work among the native-born over the last 14 years of high immigration is consis­tent with research showing that immigration reduces employment for natives.

        *Third, the trends since 2000 challenge the argument that immigration on balance increases job oppor­tunities for natives. Over 17 million immigrants arrived in the country in the last 14 years, yet native employment has deteriorated significantly.

The Center for Immigration Studies is a non-profit research institute. Founded in 1985, the organization is regularly consulted by policymakers, the academic community, and the media on matters of immigration policy.

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Re: Trump vows to 'rip up' all trade agreements
« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2016, 03:03:37 PM »
There's a reason we're turning into a Jerry Springer nation, filled with stupidity.  Our people have lost meaningful opportunity.

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Re: Trump vows to 'rip up' all trade agreements
« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2016, 03:05:52 PM »
I would have to see that study itself.

I find it very difficult to believe that any illegal immigrants are listed in the employment statistics that the US government gives out.

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Re: Trump vows to 'rip up' all trade agreements
« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2016, 03:12:37 PM »
I would have to see that study itself.

I find it very difficult to believe that any illegal immigrants are listed in the employment statistics that the US government gives out.


It is from the Center for Immigration Studies (CIS).

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Re: Trump vows to 'rip up' all trade agreements
« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2016, 03:16:49 PM »
The political world lives on lies, regarding this issue.  It is destroying the greatest country in history and diminishing all chance for us to lead the third world out of darkness.