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fructose , the interesting facts
« on: March 08, 2016, 06:38:11 PM »
fructose
it has the highest sweetness
doesnt raise insulin\bloodsugar
does not turn to glycogen for use by muscles and fructose is not used by the brain
when eaten it goes straight to the liver like alcohol wich could be bad if liver isnt flushed
fructose does not effect leptin


now glucose like from a potato
increases insulin\blood sugar
80 percent goes to muscle and brain for immediate use, 20 % goes to liver
glucose raises leptin wich makes you feel. good and  ,leptin has other benefits

glucagon gets turned on wen blood sugars\insulin is low . it is a fat burning hormone, apparantly another route to aim for than traditional calorie cutting


i see fructose as a brilliant way to lose fat its sweet and doesnt effect bloodsugars
as u see i laid out the pros and cons , u can devise a clever approach

just remember everygram of fructose goes to your liver like every gram of alcohol

kale flushes the liver and lemon juice

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Re: fructose , the interesting facts
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2016, 06:49:50 PM »
let me stress a point

hfcs is bad its 50 percent fructose 50 glucose
u dont want to jack up fructose level in your liver at the same time jack up bloodsugar levels with hfcs

this serves no benefit other than taste

you want to experiment with fructose by itself ,protien is ok

fructose is not hfcs ( high fructose corn syrup)

hfcs is a bad mixture
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Re: fructose , the interesting facts
« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2016, 06:51:11 PM »

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Re: fructose , the interesting facts
« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2016, 06:54:11 PM »

should i not have posted this i never new fructose was liver toxic like alcohol and didnt raise bloodsugars
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Re: fructose , the interesting facts
« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2016, 08:26:40 PM »
should i not have posted this i never new fructose was liver toxic like alcohol and didnt raise bloodsugars

You're absolutely right, and my mind is blown as a result.  Thank you.   

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« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2016, 08:35:56 PM »
You're absolutely right, and my mind is blown as a result.  Thank you.   
i love that pic tho
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Re: fructose , the interesting facts
« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2016, 09:47:56 PM »
Apparently everyone here is too busy believing a calorie is a calorie ;D ;D
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Re: fructose , the interesting facts
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2016, 12:56:59 AM »
Pineapple cures the liver. That's all you need.

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« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2016, 01:06:02 AM »
Pineapple cures the liver. That's all you need.

Yep...just swallow it whole..

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Re: fructose , the interesting facts
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2016, 01:16:13 AM »
I remember Chad preferring to use it to any other sugar form for carbing up. There was a huge debate on Mayhem over it

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Re: fructose , the interesting facts
« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2016, 02:24:38 AM »
interestingly, everyone says fruit is healthy, but the fructose/glucose proportion in many fruits is close to 50/50.

only a small number of fruits have significantly more fructose than glucose.

on a related note, much much more food for thought (so to speak):


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« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2016, 04:18:49 AM »
FACT!  Rheo Blair had a fructose based carbohydrate source for one of his superior proteins that was only available to his higher end clientele.

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Re: fructose , the interesting facts
« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2016, 04:58:25 AM »
Despite the worries of correlation with pancreatic cancer, Steve Jobs was a "fructarian". That's a dipshit that gets the majority of his "nutrition" from fruit.

Jobs died of pancreatic cancer.

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Re: fructose , the interesting facts
« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2016, 05:15:27 AM »
I remember Chad preferring to use it to any other sugar form for carbing up. There was a huge debate on Mayhem over it
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Re: fructose , the interesting facts
« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2016, 07:59:04 AM »
fructose uses the glut5 transporter and is converted to glucose via gluconeogenesis. it still contains 4 calories per gram.

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Re: fructose , the interesting facts
« Reply #15 on: March 09, 2016, 08:03:05 AM »
Fruits - and lots of it... as long as you don't go GayGreen sytle you should be ok.
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Re: fructose , the interesting facts
« Reply #16 on: March 09, 2016, 08:18:20 AM »
fructose uses the glut5 transporter and is converted to glucose via gluconeogenesis. it still contains 4 calories per gram.

Glucose uses the Glut4 transporter and how you said Glut5 for the Fructose. But Fructose is converted faster to fat than Glucose.

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Re: fructose , the interesting facts
« Reply #17 on: March 09, 2016, 09:46:20 PM »
FACT!  Rheo Blair had a fructose based carbohydrate source for one of his superior proteins that was only available to his higher end clientele.
that boy named rick flair tho
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Re: fructose , the interesting facts
« Reply #18 on: March 09, 2016, 09:48:55 PM »
Glucose uses the Glut4 transporter and how you said Glut5 for the Fructose. But Fructose is converted faster to fat than Glucose.
This works fine and would be correct, but it only works on the assumption that the Earth is round.

Idiot.

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« Reply #19 on: March 09, 2016, 10:09:28 PM »
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His old board is down now but there are a few posts about it if you google his argument he had with Milos about insulin

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Re: fructose , the interesting facts
« Reply #20 on: March 10, 2016, 03:49:20 AM »
Apparently everyone here is too busy believing a calorie is a calorie ;D ;D

What is a calorie if it's not a calorie.....

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Re: fructose , the interesting facts
« Reply #21 on: March 10, 2016, 04:22:21 AM »
a calorie is a calorie

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Re: fructose , the interesting facts
« Reply #22 on: March 10, 2016, 04:38:53 AM »
Glucose uses the Glut4 transporter and how you said Glut5 for the Fructose. But Fructose is converted faster to fat than Glucose.

Yes this is what I said, fructose uses the glut 5 transporter(glut 2 at times, and in enterocytes (gut cells). It would depend on what pathway the fructose goes through (not doing any reading here), if synthesized de novo I believe it is preferentially converted to fatty acids and triglycerides, if frucolysis is involved (dietary intake) it would preferentially go down the glucogenic pathway.


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Re: fructose , the interesting facts
« Reply #23 on: March 10, 2016, 05:09:12 AM »
taste and hunger
energy
muscle retention
fatloss


now just eating fructose as a carb, and get your protien n veggies in  low fat ,would fructose aid all of the above better ?
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Re: fructose , the interesting facts
« Reply #24 on: March 10, 2016, 05:19:45 AM »
when does Glycemic index play into this - cool you eat fruit

what you talk of  seems dose dependent and in what forms - +fiber? for example, 1 apple vs 3cups grapes, 12bananas vs 3kiwis, pineapple vs watermelon