kai actually got a better V taper than ced there. improved his delts a lot.
his overall shape looks much better and his midsection seems to have downsized a bit, at least in the front poses.
ceds bubble gut jumps right into your face, even though his waist is tight from the side.
kai is the over way around, bubble gut from the side, but no bloat in the front poses
ced getting raped by kai conditioning wise too.