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Re: "Undecided" voters are morons
« Reply #50 on: March 14, 2016, 05:04:34 PM »
Christie needs a Hoveround.

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Re: "Undecided" voters are morons
« Reply #51 on: March 14, 2016, 05:06:46 PM »
He has never taken a dime his entire life from them or been influenced by them his entire career.  Why would he start now.

Obviously you have no clue who he is.

Some one, besides the people,   is paying for his political campaign, that money must have some influence.

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Re: "Undecided" voters are morons
« Reply #52 on: March 14, 2016, 05:08:16 PM »
Some one, besides the people,   is paying for his political campaign, that money must have some influence.
Total Bullshit.

ALL OF THE MONEY is from individual donations.  Not a dime from any corporation or SuperPac.  He has raised the most in history from the American People.  He takes money from Nobody.

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Re: "Undecided" voters are morons
« Reply #53 on: March 14, 2016, 05:11:41 PM »
Sure thing guy.....this is why we have citizens united. Because Unions act as super pacts.

But Sanders' bid for the White House also has a super PAC supporting it. It's called National Nurses United for Patient Protection.

National Nurses United is a labor union of 185,000 registered nurses known for its progressive politics. It was the first national union to endorse Sanders' campaign for the presidency, though most big unions have lined up behind Clinton. NNU's members have become a fixture at Sanders' rallies in the early primary states, and they canvassed hard for him in Iowa, where he finished neck-and-neck with the presumed front-runner.

While NNU's money may not match the most powerful corporate super PACs, it's hardly insignificant cash. As Politico recently reported, the group pulled in $2.3 million in 2015, its largest single-year haul ever. It shelled out $1.3 million during the second half of last year, with $400,000 of it going to other groups that support Sanders.
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Re: "Undecided" voters are morons
« Reply #54 on: March 14, 2016, 05:14:22 PM »
Sure thing guy.....this is why we have citizens united. Because Unions act as super pacts.

But Sanders' bid for the White House also has a super PAC supporting it. It's called National Nurses United for Patient Protection.

National Nurses United is a labor union of 185,000 registered nurses known for its progressive politics. It was the first national union to endorse Sanders' campaign for the presidency, though most big unions have lined up behind Clinton. NNU's members have become a fixture at Sanders' rallies in the early primary states, and they canvassed hard for him in Iowa, where he finished neck-and-neck with the presumed front-runner.

While NNU's money may not match the most powerful corporate super PACs, it's hardly insignificant cash. As Politico recently reported, the group pulled in $2.3 million in 2015, its largest single-year haul ever. It shelled out $1.3 million during the second half of last year, with $400,000 of it going to other groups that support Sanders.

Again, Bernie has not taken a dime from them.  What they do on their own is not his call.  He has nothing to do with them. 

Bernie is the only one who REALLY wants to overturn Citizens United and to end money in politics.  No one else is even close.

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Re: "Undecided" voters are morons
« Reply #55 on: March 14, 2016, 05:21:08 PM »
Total Bullshit.

ALL OF THE MONEY is from individual donations.  Not a dime from any corporation or SuperPac.  He has raised the most in history from the American People.  He takes money from Nobody.


Interesting. I thought his denial in taking funds from corporations/SuperPac was just political bs.  

Very impressive if true, but I also imagine that makes him a "dangerous" candidate to corporate America.


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Re: "Undecided" voters are morons
« Reply #56 on: March 14, 2016, 05:28:41 PM »

Interesting. I thought his denial in taking funds from corporations/SuperPac was just political bs.  

Very impressive if true, but I also imagine that makes him a "dangerous" candidate to corporate America.


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Re: "Undecided" voters are morons
« Reply #57 on: March 14, 2016, 05:30:06 PM »
That is not even close to what all the data, evidence and trends suggest would happen.

There is not a single poll or piece of data that puts Trump ahead of Sanders.  Sanders resoundingly beats Trump moreso than Hillary.

Hillary will be an afterthought after March 15, which will be her last gasp.  The rest is Sanders from there on out and the math is with him.



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Re: "Undecided" voters are morons
« Reply #58 on: March 14, 2016, 05:31:31 PM »

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Re: "Undecided" voters are morons
« Reply #59 on: March 14, 2016, 05:33:01 PM »
Again, Bernie has not taken a dime from them.  What they do on their own is not his call.  He has nothing to do with them. 

Bernie is the only one who REALLY wants to overturn Citizens United and to end money in politics.  No one else is even close.

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OK dude.....you understand how superpacs  works right? My last post was from Huffington..this one from Politicus..a lib website. Please don't take your news from this idiot...




If there is only one thing Americans the least bit familiar with neophyte Democrat Bernie Sanders (I-VT) are aware of, it is his abhorrence of Citizens United-driven super PAC and special interest money in politics. In fact, throughout the past week traversing Iowa, Senator Sanders never missed an occasion to slam the rise of money in the political process.

“It is a “system,” Sanders bellows loudly from the campaign stages, “that is corrupt and undermining American democracy.” Obviously, such a position informs that Senator Sanders is not and will never take a red cent from a special interest group; particularly not a super PAC.

Senator Sanders is right of course, but what is likely not right is that accompanying him through Iowa was a group of nurses whose “super PAC” has doled out close to $1 million on ads and other kinds of campaign support for Sanders. What should raise a “hypocrisy alert” is that this is the same candidate who incites liberal and EmoProg supporters with persistent calls to eradicate such outside groups from political campaigns. Out of deference to ‘feeltheBern’ acolytes’ sensibilities, it is better to raise an “inconsistency alert” to avoid being accused of being a Clinton, Wall  Street, and Koch paid shill.

As a matter of pure uncontested fact, there has been more super PAC money spent thus far in express support of the Sanders campaign than for either one of his Democratic rivals. Let that sink in. That includes, by the way, former Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton according to Federal Election Commission (FEC) records. And no, the FEC is not paid by the Clinton campaign, or Koch brothers, or Wall Street any more than this column is. Their job is to report who is contributing to the Sanders’ campaign based on information provided by the Sanders’ campaign and the super PAC according to FEC campaign finance reporting requirements.
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Re: "Undecided" voters are morons
« Reply #60 on: March 14, 2016, 05:34:15 PM »


Yes such a bold leader, that he has been in congress for what 25 years, and hasn't accomplished a fucking thing
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Re: "Undecided" voters are morons
« Reply #61 on: March 14, 2016, 05:37:47 PM »



I stand corrected.  This is an outstanding accomplishment that is presidential in and of itself.

I wonder if the Democratic party realizes that pushing Hillary Clinton as the front runner only propels her competition forward?

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Re: "Undecided" voters are morons
« Reply #62 on: March 14, 2016, 05:38:08 PM »
This guy vacationed in Russia during the Cold War....that should be enough to DQ him.
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Re: "Undecided" voters are morons
« Reply #63 on: March 14, 2016, 05:39:47 PM »
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OK dude.....you understand how superpacs  works right? My last post was from Huffington..this one from Politicus..a lib website. Please don't take your news from this idiot...




If there is only one thing Americans the least bit familiar with neophyte Democrat Bernie Sanders (I-VT) are aware of, it is his abhorrence of Citizens United-driven super PAC and special interest money in politics. In fact, throughout the past week traversing Iowa, Senator Sanders never missed an occasion to slam the rise of money in the political process.

“It is a “system,” Sanders bellows loudly from the campaign stages, “that is corrupt and undermining American democracy.” Obviously, such a position informs that Senator Sanders is not and will never take a red cent from a special interest group; particularly not a super PAC.

Senator Sanders is right of course, but what is likely not right is that accompanying him through Iowa was a group of nurses whose “super PAC” has doled out close to $1 million on ads and other kinds of campaign support for Sanders. What should raise a “hypocrisy alert” is that this is the same candidate who incites liberal and EmoProg supporters with persistent calls to eradicate such outside groups from political campaigns. Out of deference to ‘feeltheBern’ acolytes’ sensibilities, it is better to raise an “inconsistency alert” to avoid being accused of being a Clinton, Wall  Street, and Koch paid shill.

As a matter of pure uncontested fact, there has been more super PAC money spent thus far in express support of the Sanders campaign than for either one of his Democratic rivals. Let that sink in. That includes, by the way, former Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton according to Federal Election Commission (FEC) records. And no, the FEC is not paid by the Clinton campaign, or Koch brothers, or Wall Street any more than this column is. Their job is to report who is contributing to the Sanders’ campaign based on information provided by the Sanders’ campaign and the super PAC according to FEC campaign finance reporting requirements.

Again, genius
These are NOT sanctioned by anyone connected with Bernie Sanders.   There is no Pac or SuperPac by Bernie or his campaign.  What someone does outside is not in his control at all.  He has no lobby or anything.  Stop with the bullshit.

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Re: "Undecided" voters are morons
« Reply #64 on: March 14, 2016, 05:43:42 PM »
This guy vacationed in Russia during the Cold War....that should be enough to DQ him.
You are a moron.

http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/aug/12/george-will/george-will-reminds-readers-about-bernie-sanders-u/

The trip’s primary purpose was diplomacy, not leisure, and included about 10 extra guests.

Will’s claim is accurate but is missing context about the trip’s underlying purpose.

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Re: "Undecided" voters are morons
« Reply #65 on: March 14, 2016, 05:47:34 PM »
I stand corrected.  This is an outstanding accomplishment that is presidential in and of itself.

I wonder if the Democratic party realizes that pushing Hillary Clinton as the front runner only propels her competition forward?
Their campaign is currently in disarray as Bernie is surpassing her in support and especially after Michigan.  Hillary is losing support and losing bad and Bernie is moving forward quickly.  The path to the nomination is clear, especially after the 15th when ALL states left favor Bernie. 

The Clintons are nasty and dishonest and people are now realizing this.  Couple that with 40 percent-50 percent of Bernie supporters (myself included) will NEVER vote for Hillary for anything, spells disaster for her.

She is done after this primary season, no matter what happens.

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Re: "Undecided" voters are morons
« Reply #66 on: March 14, 2016, 05:53:10 PM »
Total Bullshit.

ALL OF THE MONEY is from individual donations.  Not a dime from any corporation or SuperPac.  He has raised the most in history from the American People.  He takes money from Nobody.
biased oxymoron logic fail
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Re: "Undecided" voters are morons
« Reply #67 on: March 14, 2016, 05:54:04 PM »
Not if you are a populist. 

If you care about the people of this country more than those in the rest of the world you would not want to open borders increasing labor supply and suppressing the wages of US citizens.

Also Bernie is more supportive than Trump of military intervention in foreign countries.  Every dollar spent abroad could have been spent here to help US citizens.  Not populist.

Bernie prioritizes the rights of racial minorities over the well fare of the people of the US as a whole, not populist.

I know you won't be convinced that Trump is a better choice than Bernie, but he is a good back-up for you.  Consider voting for Trump in the general if Sanders is shafted.  Hell you might even want to consider a vote for Trump in the NC primary if you are an indepent, Bernie is down by more than 20 there.    

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Re: "Undecided" voters are morons
« Reply #68 on: March 14, 2016, 05:55:45 PM »

Interesting. I thought his denial in taking funds from corporations/SuperPac was just political bs.  

Very impressive if true, but I also imagine that makes him a "dangerous" candidate to corporate America.


You've taught me something Adam. Thank you.
members of a corporation are the individual donors

think 4 yourself
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Re: "Undecided" voters are morons
« Reply #69 on: March 14, 2016, 06:00:04 PM »
If you care about the people of this country more than those in the rest of the world you would not want to open borders increasing labor supply and suppressing the wages of US citizens.

Also Bernie is more supportive than Trump of military intervention in foreign countries.  Every dollar spent abroad could have been spent here to help US citizens.  Not populist.

Bernie prioritizes the rights of racial minorities over the well fare of the people of the US as a whole, not populist.

I know you won't be convinced that Trump is a better choice than Bernie, but he is a good back-up for you.  Consider voting for Trump in the general if Sanders is shafted.  Hell you might even want to consider a vote for Trump in the NC primary if you are an indepent, Bernie is down by more than 20 there.    

1. Your claim of intervention is not true at all.  

2. Bernie does not prioritize anyone's rights over another.  Another outright lie/claim.
3. Bernie will do well in NC and polls in the election cycle are not in line with the data or trends and have been wrong and way off.  See Michigan and Kansas.
4. I already said I will vote for Trump over Hillary because he is more Liberal than Hillary when it comes down to it.  I read his book, done research on him.  He supports Single Payer, Pro-Choice etc... (what he is saying now is not concurrent to his positions he held for decades).  More importantly, he will DESTROY the Republican Party and that is an opportunity everyone should take.  The Republican Party is total shit filled with shit people.  It will be good to flush the turd of a party down the toilet and I don't mind putting Trumps hand on the flusher.

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Re: "Undecided" voters are morons
« Reply #70 on: March 14, 2016, 06:00:58 PM »
members of a corporation are the individual donors

think 4 yourself
that doesnt even make sense.

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Re: "Undecided" voters are morons
« Reply #71 on: March 14, 2016, 06:02:10 PM »
If you care about the people of this country more than those in the rest of the world you would not want to open borders increasing labor supply and suppressing the wages of US citizens.

Also Bernie is more supportive than Trump of military intervention in foreign countries.  Every dollar spent abroad could have been spent here to help US citizens.  Not populist.

Bernie prioritizes the rights of racial minorities over the well fare of the people of the US as a whole, not populist.

I know you won't be convinced that Trump is a better choice than Bernie, but he is a good back-up for you.  Consider voting for Trump in the general if Sanders is shafted.  Hell you might even want to consider a vote for Trump in the NC primary if you are an indepent, Bernie is down by more than 20 there.    

He's already stated Trump is his second.

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Re: "Undecided" voters are morons
« Reply #72 on: March 14, 2016, 06:03:08 PM »
members of a corporation are the individual donors

think 4 yourself

True.

But if the average donation is $27 dollars an individual from roughly 4 million people and the unemployment rate is at 8.5% at least 50% of his campaign contributors have to hate corporate America....

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Re: "Undecided" voters are morons
« Reply #73 on: March 14, 2016, 06:09:01 PM »
True.

But if the average donation is $27 dollars an individual from roughly 4 million people and the unemployment rate is at 8.5% at least 50% of his campaign contributors have to hate corporate America....
He has no clue what he is talking about. 

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Re: "Undecided" voters are morons
« Reply #74 on: March 14, 2016, 06:12:25 PM »
Reagan himself was in Russia giving speeches etc in the late 80's.
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