"Undecided" voters are morons

[The True Adonis]

I'm not a TA gimmick but I'm flattered you think so. I'm not into politics. I think the current system is broken and is a complete sham.


That said if Bernie Sanders is 100% opposed to corporate political  funding  I'm impressed. If he gets the Democrat nomination he instantly becomes a danger to the current political structure.

[AbrahamG]

Not voting is better than voting for Hillary.  It basically what Europeans would call a "vote of no confidence".  Voting for her is just ensuring that there will be no change within the Democratic Party.  Why should I or anyone vote for someone that does not share the same ideals or have the same platforms that I support?  I refuse to do that.  Bernie or nothing or Trump (at least I can help destroy the Republican Party with this vote and Trump is more liberal than people think-just read his book and look at his record-past interviews).

The only thing Hillary deserves is a prison cell. At least that is something we can all say, she has earned.

I hear you somewhat.  I agree, Trump would probably destroy the GOP and I also believe his true views are much more centered than anyone else running from the GOP.  The Hillary-prison thing, I struggle with.  If it's based on Benghazi, I just don't think there is anything there.  Back in 2000, people were saying Bush, Gore, blah.  Pretty much the same.  I'd rather have a beer with Bush.  Democrats had 8 years, let's try something different.  Well, that gave us IRAQ.  I believe Iraq is the worst foreign policy blunder in our countries history and eventually will rise to the worst blunder ever in world history.  Vietnam was bad, but it's over now.  There really are no residual effects save for families who've lost loved ones or have loved ones still suffering the effects of Vietnam.  40 years from now, that will not be the case.  Our country as well as the entire world will be feeling the ill effects of that most fucked up of decisions to invade Iraq for centuries. 

[The True Adonis]

I hear you somewhat.  I agree, Trump would probably destroy the GOP and I also believe his true views are much more centered than anyone else running from the GOP.  The Hillary-prison thing, I struggle with.  If it's based on Benghazi, I just don't think there is anything there.  Back in 2000, people were saying Bush, Gore, blah.  Pretty much the same.  I'd rather have a beer with Bush.  Democrats had 8 years, let's try something different.  Well, that gave us IRAQ.  I believe Iraq is the worst foreign policy blunder in our countries history and eventually will rise to the worst blunder ever in world history.  Vietnam was bad, but it's over now.  There really are no residual effects save for families who've lost loved ones or have loved ones still suffering the effects of Vietnam.  40 years from now, that will not be the case.  Our country as well as the entire world will be feeling the ill effects of that most fucked up of decisions to invade Iraq for centuries. 

She should be indicted for having a private server which contained classified information.  Highly illegal and the FBI just may end up indicting her and rightfully so.  Then there is Libya which is a COMPLETE DISASTER now.  This is something she adamantly supported.

She voted for the Iraq war, Bernie led the opposition against.  Spoke to an empty congress hoping someone would listen.  He even tried to warn about the first Iraq war.

[AbrahamG]

She should be indicted for having a private server which contained classified information.  Highly illegal and the FBI just may end up indicting her and rightfully so.  Then there is Libya which is a COMPLETE DISASTER now.  This is something she adamantly supported.

She voted for the Iraq war, Bernie led the opposition against.  Spoke to an empty congress hoping someone would listen.  He even tried to warn about the first Iraq war.

All her predecessors had private servers.  The info supposedly wasn't classified at the time of it being on her private server.  Libya sucks, but you'd have to indite lots of other people as well.  Same goes for the Iraq war.  I say her being a criminal is a pretty big stretch.  Poor judgement, YES.  Lack of courage/poor character, Yes.  Bernie Sanders?  You don't have to sell me on Bernie.  I've been down with Bernie for at least ten years.  Use to love his Fridays with Bernie on the Thom Hartmann Show.

I live in Michigan and last week I voted for Bernie.  I almost didn't vote for Bernie because I thought about getting a GOP ballot and voting for Trump just to help ensure his candidacy.  All the polls had Hillary running away with Michigan and figured my vote wouldn't matter.  Boy, I'm glad I went with my heart because with Bernie pulling out the win by 2% it turns out that my vote probably did matter.

[Walter Sobchak]

I'm not a TA gimmick but I'm flattered you think so. I'm not into politics. I think the current system is broken and is a complete sham.


That said if Bernie Sanders is 100% opposed to corporate political  funding  I'm impressed. If he gets the Democrat nomination he instantly becomes a danger to the current political structure.

Adam, let's play out your hypothetical scenario:

Bernie negotiating against Netanyahu
Bernie in a military stare down with Putin
Bernie getting shit on by the Mexican PM
Bernie getting bitch slapped by Merkel
Bernie getting sand kicked in his face by the Saudis
Bernie getting beat silly by a Republican Congress
Bernie having hot tub sex with homo Trudeau from Canada

Just where exactly do you think this Parkinsons shaking old fool could ever even pretend to be the leader of the free world?

He's a running joke and his political career is the punchline

[AbrahamG]

Adam, let's play out your hypothetical scenario:

Bernie negotiating against Netanyahu
Bernie in a military stare down with Putin
Bernie getting shit on by the Mexican PM
Bernie getting bitch slapped by Merkel
Bernie getting sand kicked in his face by the Saudis
Bernie getting beat silly by a Republican Congress
Bernie having hot tub sex with homo Trudeau from Canada

Just where exactly do you think this Parkinsons shaking old fool could ever even pretend to be the leader of the free world?

Maybe Bernie can gaze into Putins eyes like W did?  Or touch Merkel inappropriately?  Don't you have a cock that you could be slobbering on right about now?

He's a running joke and his political career is the punchline

[The True Adonis]

All her predecessors had private servers.  The info supposedly wasn't classified at the time of it being on her private server.  Libya sucks, but you'd have to indite lots of other people as well.  Same goes for the Iraq war.  I say her being a criminal is a pretty big stretch.  Poor judgement, YES.  Lack of courage/poor character, Yes.  Bernie Sanders?  You don't have to sell me on Bernie.  I've been down with Bernie for at least ten years.  Use to love his Fridays with Bernie on the Thom Hartmann Show.

I live in Michigan and last week I voted for Bernie.  I almost didn't vote for Bernie because I thought about getting a GOP ballot and voting for Trump just to help ensure his candidacy.  All the polls had Hillary running away with Michigan and figured my vote wouldn't matter.  Boy, I'm glad I went with my heart because with Bernie pulling out the win by 2% it turns out that my vote probably did matter.

This is a blatant lie.

That fucking woman will LIE about EVERYTHING.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/mar/09/hillary-clinton/hillary-clinton-said-my-predecessors-did-same-thin/

Our ruling

Clinton said, regarding her State Department email practices, "my predecessors did the same thing."

This is a misleading claim chiefly because only one prior secretary of state regularly used email, Colin Powell. Powell did use a personal email address for government business, however he did not use a private server kept at his home, as Clinton did.

We rate this claim Mostly False.

[Slik]

One thing we have to agree on TA. Both Trunp n Sanders have horrible combovers. Well Bernie's isn't a combover but more of a comb forward. It looks just as ridiculous. Just cut it short and be done with it. The sides of Bernie's head crack me up. He has this funnel of hair coming from the back covering his sides. So at least they have common ground. 

[The True Adonis]

Its against the law to just have your own Private Server at your house and then conduct classified business on it without encryption and without the Government's knowledge.

They gave complete immunity to the guy who set up the server in exchange for all of his information.  It really does not look good for lying Hillary.  There was ZERO reason for her to do that other than for subversion and control over her own data and whatever data was sent to her.  Its not normal behavior nor is it honest and is in fact, criminal.

President Barack Obama’s former top military intelligence official said Hillary Clinton should pull out of the presidential race while the FBI investigate her use of a private email server for official government communication while secretary of state.

Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, the retired chief of the Defense Intelligence Agency, made the call in an interview with Jake Tapper on “The Lead.”

“If it were me, I would have been out the door and probably in jail,” said Flynn, who decried what he said was a “lack of accountability, frankly, in a person who should have been much more responsible in her actions as the secretary of state of the United States of America.”

[AbrahamG]

This is a blatant lie.

That fucking woman will LIE about EVERYTHING.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/mar/09/hillary-clinton/hillary-clinton-said-my-predecessors-did-same-thin/

Our ruling

Clinton said, regarding her State Department email practices, "my predecessors did the same thing."

This is a misleading claim chiefly because only one prior secretary of state regularly used email, Colin Powell. Powell did use a personal email address for government business, however he did not use a private server kept at his home, as Clinton did.

We rate this claim Mostly False.

I'm pretty much on your side, but you certainly can be prickly.  They all lie about everything with the exception of Bernie.  The private server thing is pretty fucked up.  I cede your point.  Let's see where the facts play out in terms of what was on said server and/or in private emails as it pertains to classified information.  She is adamant that the shit in her private emails wasn't classified at the time.  Like I said, if that turns out to be true then it's all for not.  

Let me try this again.  I WANT BERNIE SANDERS TO BE PRESIDENT.  However, if I cannot have Bernie I'd rather settle for Hillary the lying kunt Clinton because even that is better than anything coming from the land of Oz/GOP.  Things were so fucked up after 8 years of Bush that we were basically in a depression in 2009 at the start of Obama's presidency.  Imagine if McCain and the retard were in office and instead of a stimulus they went the route of austerity?  It fucking matters who wins.  Sometimes the lesser of two evils is a necessary evil to save our country from total collapse.  

[240 is Back]

it's all over tomorrow, for bernie or hilary.

if bernie kicks her ass in 4 out of 5 states, he is likely going to win it.
more likely, hilary does okay, keeps breaking even, and lets the supers win it for her.

[The True Adonis]

The other way I look at it is Hillary has to lose by any means necessary in the Primary or wherever.  This is the Clinton's last gasp.  When this ends, they end and their criminal behavior and continuation of establishment politics ends.

The way politics has been conducted has been harmful and can only be stopped by taking down the biggest ones who prop up our fucked up system and voting in those who are against it.  No real change and no real action will come otherwise.  People like Trump and Bernie need to BREAK the fucking system because the system just is not working for anyone anymore, Republican or Democrat.


Its time.

[The True Adonis]

it's all over tomorrow, for bernie or hilary.

if bernie kicks her ass in 4 out of 5 states, he is likely going to win it.
more likely, hilary does okay, keeps breaking even, and lets the supers win it for her.

The nails start going in the coffin for Hillary tomorrow, One at a time.

All of the data that I have access to has Bernie looking EXTREMELY good in Ohio, Illinois, Missiouri -Wins most likely  And NC close or a win and Florida-is going to be closer than anyone predicts.

From tomorrow on out, ALL STATES LEFT favor Bernie.  Hillary has no more black vote left, no more dumbass vote left.  Nothing.  She is already losing support, bleeding it by the pint and Bernie is just charging up his Power Armor.

Hillary is done for after the 15th. 

[El Diablo Blanco]

The other way I look at it is Hillary has to lose by any means necessary in the Primary or wherever.  This is the Clinton's last gasp.  When this ends, they end and their criminal behavior and continuation of establishment politics ends.

The way politics has been conducted has been harmful and can only be stopped by taking down the biggest ones who prop up our fucked up system and voting in those who are against it.  No real change and no real action will come otherwise.  People like Trump and Bernie need to BREAK the fucking system because the system just is not working for anyone anymore, Republican or Democrat.


Its time.

I have to agree here. The PTB realized they can dish as much money as they can to get their man in office and had Bush win. They did the same with Obama who outspent Bush.  They are tying with Rubio and Cruz and Hillary and failing.  The fucking banks buying their man in office days are over. Sadly Trump is still a Wall Street hustler and will do their bidding.  For gods sake he mentioned making corporate raider Carl Icahn the treasurer.  With trump in power the country will topple....in theory but the majority of Americans will ignore the world burning around them when the nfl starts. 

[Marty Champions]

I don't give a fuck what you think about me.  The fact is, the rights he wants to give the middle class, such as Single Payer healthcare, the same thing that the rest of the industrialized world has, would extend to the wealthy.  They would still pay less in taxes than what Eisenhower had the top pay (much less) and less even than Ronald Reagan had people paying in 1984.

lool they could easily lower taxes on middle class but they dont as u see in the chart ,they take more from the rich without lowering middle class

fuck bernie

[Marty Champions]

Adam, let's play out your hypothetical scenario:

Bernie negotiating against Netanyahu
Bernie in a military stare down with Putin
Bernie getting shit on by the Mexican PM
Bernie getting bitch slapped by Merkel
Bernie getting sand kicked in his face by the Saudis
Bernie getting beat silly by a Republican Congress
Bernie having hot tub sex with homo Trudeau from Canada

Just where exactly do you think this Parkinsons shaking old fool could ever even pretend to be the leader of the free world?

He's a running joke and his political career is the punchline

x2

[10pints]

People who blindly vote along party lines are morons.

They sure are.  Most Republicans will never vote for anyone else other than Republicans, even if the ideas are bad.

So, if they are morons when they are decided, based on party lines, and morons when they are undecided, based on not having enough facts to make a decision, they can only not be a moron once they have made a decision, based on non-party lines.

By this logic, you were at one point, pertaining to your voting preference, a moron, as you were not blindly voting along party lines and had yet to make your mind up, based on the facts.

Now you make a thread calling other people morons for being in the same moronic state as you once were. It all seems rather moronic.

[The True Adonis]

So, if they are morons when they are decided, based on party lines, and morons when they are undecided, based on not having enough facts to make a decision, they can only not be a moron once they have made a decision, based on non-party lines.

By this logic, you were at one point, pertaining to your voting preference, a moron, as you were not blindly voting along party lines and had yet to make your mind up, based on the facts.

Now you make a thread calling other people morons for being in the same moronic state as you once were. It all seems rather moronic.

Undecided at this point in time, is moronic.  Its clear to see whats what with all the candidates.

[drkaje]

So, if they are morons when they are decided, based on party lines, and morons when they are undecided, based on not having enough facts to make a decision, they can only not be a moron once they have made a decision, based on non-party lines.

By this logic, you were at one point, pertaining to your voting preference, a moron, as you were not blindly voting along party lines and had yet to make your mind up, based on the facts.

Now you make a thread calling other people morons for being in the same moronic state as you once were. It all seems rather moronic.

It's a tough one. People should put some thought into their votes and not just jump on whatever bandwagon party leadership has in mind.

Voting with your wallet makes more sense but you can't trust any politician.

[The True Adonis]

[Walter Sobchak]

It's a simple process:

Go down to the DMV and look at the people working there and how it is run. Then imagine that one Socialist candidate wants the government to take over and operate everything.

Then look into the real details of Senile Bernie's free college plan. Understand the 2 for 1 state match and how states will never go along with the program.

Then you will realize why Hilary will crush Bernie....and then Trump will crush Hilary.

[drkaje]

It's a simple process:

Go down to the DMV and look at the people working there and how it is run. Then imagine that one Socialist candidate wants the government to take over and operate everything.

Then look into the real details of Senile Bernie's free college plan. Understand the 2 for 1 state match and how states will never go along with the program.

Then you will realize why Hilary will crush Bernie....and then Trump will crush Hilary.

Everything's gonna be free!!

Why think?

[The True Adonis]

It's a simple process:

Go down to the DMV and look at the people working there and how it is run. Then imagine that one Socialist candidate wants the government to take over and operate everything.

Then look into the real details of Senile Bernie's free college plan. Understand the 2 for 1 state match and how states will never go along with the program.

Then you will realize why Hilary will crush Bernie....and then Trump will crush Hilary.

DMV is run by the state.  Republicans are supposed to like things run by the State, not the Federal govt.

[The True Adonis]

In the United States a department of motor vehicles (DMV) is a state-level government agency that administers vehicle registration and driver licensing.

[Walter Sobchak]

Everything's gonna be free!!

Why think?

Yes.....the little Liberals who want everything for free from the government have no understanding of how their parents worked for everything the little losers have been given