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EFFECTS OF BEAUTY FOUND TO RUN SURPRISINGLY DEEP
By JANE E. BRODY
Published: September 1, 1981
 
MINNEAPOLIS STUDIES of physical attractiveness show that people do, in fact, judge a book by its cover, often with dramatic effects on those being judged. The findings suggest that expectations based on physical attractiveness can become self-fulfilling prophecies that may strongly influence the course of a person's life.

The studies show that people known (or supposed) to be physically attractive are invested by others with a host of desirable characteristics, such as warmth, poise, sensitivity, kindness, sincerity and the potential for social, marital and occupational success. And according to Dr. Ellen Berscheid, professor of psychology at the University of Minnesota, these beliefs about physically attractive people, and the preferential treatment that grows out of them, can have lasting effects on an individual's personality, social life, and educational and career opportunities.

 Dr. Berscheid said the importance of physical attractiveness is growing and will continue to grow as increases in geographic mobility, frequent job changes and divorce subject more people to ''onetime'' or ''few-time'' interactions with others, in which they are judged on the basis of first impressions.

The psychologist, who has been studying the effects of physical attractiveness for the last 15 years, said the findings ''give new dimensions to Freud's statement that 'Anatomy is destiny.' '' (Freud's proposition referred originally only to physical differences between men and women.) Contrary to democratic notions that ''all men are created equal,'' the findings imply that a person's physical appearance can make a profound difference in his or her life.

''It is clearly a myth that 'Beauty is only skin deep,' '' Dr. Berscheid said, adding that both the lay public and American psychologists have long resisted the idea that attractive people are favored. ''That our physical appearance should make an important difference in our lives is not a fact that makes most of us very comfortable,'' she observed.

''Genetic determinism is anathema to Americans, who want to believe everyone is born equal, with an equal chance for a happy life,'' Dr. Berscheid remarked in an interview here. ''It's simply not so. The most important factors governing success in life are genetically determined: appearance, intelligence, sex and height.'' She cited a continuing study at the University of Minnesota of identical twins who had been reared apart. The study, she says, is showing that ''genetically identical children turn out to be very similar even though they grow up in very different environments.''

The preferential treatment of physically attractive people starts right after birth, Dr. Berscheid noted, and continues throughout childhood, adolescence and into adulthood. These are among the more telling research findings, all of which involved normal-looking people of varying degrees of attractiveness:

Nursery school children who were rated by adults as physically attractive were found to be more popular with their school friends, in a study by Karen Dion at the University of Minnesota.

College students paired as dates at a ''computer dance'' preferred others who were physically attractive; the partners' intelligence, social skills and personality had little to do with the students' reaction to their dates, a Minnesota study by Elaine Hatfield Walster and her associates showed. ''These results gave the lie to what people had said was important to them in previous studies,'' the researchers concluded.

Another study at Western Illinois University of paired college students who agreed to complete five dates revealed, contrary to expectation, that as the number of dates increased, attractiveness became a more important factor in determining if the partner was liked.

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Do you agree with the article?  What have your observations and experiences been?

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Re: Effects Of Beauty Run Surprisingly Deep
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2016, 07:31:17 AM »
Its already been shown that more attractive, physical in-shape people receive more money (of course, not always) starting off at a job than their counterparts. I assume this happens more in the business world, when compared to more of the human service professions.
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Re: Effects Of Beauty Run Surprisingly Deep
« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2016, 07:35:44 AM »
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Re: Effects Of Beauty Run Surprisingly Deep
« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2016, 07:53:09 AM »
I was standing at the checkout at the grocery store this morning and notice a young blond girl standing with her father.  You could tell she was going to be beautiful when she grows up, a 9 or 10, and I thought to myself how different her life was going to be because of it.

I live in a wealthy area and see daily how trophy wives and and their future trophy wife daughters live. These women are pampered their whole lives, all because they won the genetic lottery at birth.

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Re: Effects Of Beauty Run Surprisingly Deep
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2016, 07:58:22 AM »
In other news water is wet

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Re: Effects Of Beauty Run Surprisingly Deep
« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2016, 07:59:15 AM »
Yeah and I'm gonna read all of that.

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Re: Effects Of Beauty Run Surprisingly Deep
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2016, 08:03:07 AM »
Cool thx for posting a 25.5 year old study...what are you a click through ad bait writer?

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Re: Effects Of Beauty Run Surprisingly Deep
« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2016, 08:06:30 AM »
In other news water is wet

I was actually thinking the same thing!  ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2016, 08:17:01 AM »
Here I was thinking that I keep getting promoted because I am smart.

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« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2016, 08:58:08 AM »
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« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2016, 09:03:50 AM »
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Re: Effects Of Beauty Run Surprisingly Deep
« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2016, 09:08:12 AM »
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I understand people on Getbig are busy, but I'm trying to get you to practice your speed reading skills.  That passage should have only taken you 80 seconds to read.

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Re: Effects Of Beauty Run Surprisingly Deep And In Other News Water Is Wet
« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2016, 09:44:20 AM »
This is a far better explanation that people might not be aware of

Physiognomy Theory

Thesis: Your appearance, defined here as primarily your facial features/measurements but also your body shape and clothing/surroundings/postures/expressions, overwhelmingly determines what type of behavior people will expect from you and how they will react to your behavior around them. Deviations from this expected behavior will result in disassociation or shaming to make your behavior conform to your image.

Humans are visual creatures, and for good reason; visual stimuli is the most constant, stimulating, information rich sensory stimuli known, and humans have highly developed eyesight and visual processing areas in their brains. Humans are also arguably the most social species, and as such have evolved to address the problem of specialization of labor. Following the biological principle that bodily form reflects necessary behavioral function, certain percentages of humans developed different physical traits because they allowed them to perform their specialized social function with more success than humans with other combinations of features.

The subset of humans who are females have largely only one evolutionary purpose, to give birth and care for babies. Suffice to say for our purposes here that females' ideal mating strategy is to become fertilized by the alpha while she is at her peak in fertility, and then to trick a beta male into thinking her offspring will be his and extract resources from the cuckolded beta for raising the child. Her appearance, is she sexy, young and appearing fertile and able to give healthy birthed children, or not, advertised by her high hip to waist ratio, low body fat %, and youthful skin, is the main determinant of her value to males. Essentially the more attractive a woman is, the more men will want to fuck her, be willing to put up with her bullshit or demands to fuck her, and the more females will be envious of her.


The subset of humans who are males have evolved to fulfil many different evolutionary/behavioral functions and as a result are a less homogenous gender than females. The most important distinctions that society draws between men are those that are alpha and those that are beta. Alpha men are seen as valuable to society not just because of the behavioral role that they perform (ruling the society, leading, organizing and managing betas’ labor, resolving conflicts, being the strongest fighter/hunter/defender, etc.) but also “intrinsically” (akin to women) because of their higher genetic quality sperm with which to produce higher quality offspring descendants for the society. All an alpha male is expected and allowed to do can be boiled down to “being selfish”, simply because the alpha as the strongest and most desired man CAN do anything he wants. By being selfish, he will sleep around with women spreading good genes, defend women because he sees them as his property and children because many are his own cuckolded ones, control beta males and direct them to give resources to women because he wants the women he is fucking to stay alive without having to provide for them/their kids himself, etc. Alpha males, possessing the highest quality genetic material, reflect this in their appearance by being muscular, tall, and having masculine, sexually dimorphic and healthy, symmetrical facial features and skull shape; without taking too many of these dimorphic traits to a biological extreme so that they might induce too much fear in the woman to associate with him. Essentially alpha males look like they could kill someone in front of a woman and not only would she forgive them, she would get wet for him.



The beta male is seen as valuable to society only extrinsically for the material resources or functions that he is able to perform. He is seen as subhuman by essentially all women except maybe his family, and by most alphas, akin to a robot who is only useful as long as he can do his job. The beta is expected to work for the “greater good” (others, not himself), in exchange for occasional, reluctant prostitution contracts from women. Women only mate with him if they are economically dependent on him and cannot cuckold him without being discovered and abandoned (think Middle Eastern like countries) but always feel like they are settling and resent him for this. The beta male can be identified by his appearance of “not looking threatening like he could win a fight” because of lack of height, lack of muscle, smaller bone/skull structure, and has a more feminine, submissive, non-dimorphic face (bigger, more exposed eyes without strong brow, smaller nose, narrower skull, smaller jaw, less facial hair, etc.) that reflects his inferior genes. Because the beta appears that he cannot physically defend himself, he is assumed to comply with the alpha’s demands, and any deviation from this is met by scorn and ridicule by women to keep him in his place as a useful provider.



On sight, people automatically and subconsciously profile you according to your appearance and what you are wearing, etc. and assign you to the closest stereotype they have in their mind of you, and then respond to you and expect you to act congruent with that stereotype. They do not treat you like a special snowflake blank slate and attempt to create a highly accurate personality profile of you based on all of your behaviors, they simply do not have the time or desire to. A heuristic cognitive approach is much more time and energy efficient and in most cases just as accurate.


If you do not act congruent to their image of you, they will not know how to react to you and their brain will give them cognitive dissonance, they will want to stop interacting with you because you are contradicting their deeply held beliefs and they do not like that at all. This is why ugly beta males literally cannot be perceived as good, confident, charming, etc. because they are initially unconsciously assumed to be the opposite by anyone who meets them, and then everyone ignores any contradicting evidence if he acts differently because of their cognitive dissonance and confirmation bias (Failo effect). Similarly attractive people are unconsciously assumed to be better people and thus all of their actions are interpreted in the best possible light (Halo effect).

As a result of the Failo effect, people actually DO become more in line with society’s image of them because they become jaded and bitter at society and give up trying to be good, acting as a positive feedback loop to reinforce the stereotype that ugly people have bad personalities.



The Halo effect makes attractive people actually have “worse” (more selfish) personalities because they can get away with it in some cases, or makes the attractive people so happy that they are naturally nice and happy around other people so they actually get a “better” personality.

In conclusion, if you want to change how people treat you, you MUST change your image to be congruent with the behavior you want to be able to get away with so that you are being categorized as your desired stereotype to people and giving them “correct” information on what they should expect from you.

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Re: Effects Of Beauty Run Surprisingly Deep
« Reply #13 on: March 19, 2016, 10:08:49 AM »
I understand people on Getbig are busy, but I'm trying to get you to practice your speed reading skills.  That passage should have only taken you 80 seconds to read.
Maybe you should read into your own fatherless life for a minute. That's your life what it's all about, trying to please you nonexistent father. Girls and sons who have not been loved by their fathers seek attention once teens and adults to compensate for what they didnt have originally. Fathers either left them alone, or were distant most of the time and not encouraging them. Some even despised them which would shape their personality and the way they d interact with others for the rest of their life.They are extremistic in everything they do, always looking exageratly for attention, and have troubles adapting to society's rules, because they also have troubles defining their own identity and respecting authority and hierarchy. Also boys who got picked on by others during childhood and adolescence -often sons without a father figure- try to compensate by lifting weights, to develop muscles and survive in ther male world. They re insecure because they re girly, childish, feminine having been raised by a single mom. They lift obsessively hoping it will transform them into men, to compensate for their lack of influence from a father figure that was not there. Unfortunaltey they can get as big as they can it doesnt cure their insecurity and who they truly are, how they grew up being raised by a single mom. They re no as manly as other men whatever they do, and they often have a big lack of masculine presence they dont know how to balance, hence often being borderline homosexuals while trying to get their manhood back thru various manly activities (mma, cars, weight lifting etc). They are often the ones that, in order to get respect from other males will go the steroids route to get even "bigger" attemptint to cure their insecurity , but being natural not being "enough", they still feel "too small", insecure, amongst other males. The lack of a father figure also often means they didnt have guidance to continue studies and are often working shitty manual jobs. You can dominate in life with studies, a good job that requires the use of all your best strenghts, which allows you to contribute fully to the specie that spawned you. By being successful socio professionnaly and by giving birth and raising happy individuals who will also contribute to mankind, to the specie. This is the benevolant, healhty way of contributing to mankind; you dominate by giving as much as you receive using your full potential. And then, there s everything else. The others main strategies of survival. For example, the uneducated loser with charisma linked to his muscles, who only exists because of his muscles, who only impress, dominate others with them. But to keep being respected -feared- and to keep impressing, the muscles must stay, and you want more, so at some point considering they re everything you have, you go the steroid route. No chance he gets an education, a good job, he didnt have a father to give him guidance, he s an atheist, he s an asshole, insecure about his own sexuality,so he survives in the gutters, the low part of the pyramid, can barely work a normal job and gets pissed by everything, always thinking about what he could have done if only his father actually invested in him, gave him soemthing instad of abandonning him. There you have it, the roots of good and evil, where it all starts for a male in the human specie. Who raises secure kids, sons and daughters, who contribute to society, and dont fall for all the extremes, traps? The hard working faithful man. You godamn motherfucking moron , how is the medical establishment responsible for fathers abandonning their kids , sons and daughters, who will barely survive depressed all life long ? How is the medical establishment responsible for that in the first place? You re confusing the order of things. You re ignorant. You must be young! Of course they re striving on other people who come from shity families psycho behavorial troubles, developing medications that dont even work or at best keep people asleep so they dont figure they ve been fucked in the ass by their own parents, genitors, who didnt have the decency to care enough about them after giving birth to them. Moral, spiritual decline is what leads to suffering in all human beings. If psychologists, psychanalysts exist nowadays, if most people try to find a meaning to their life in pseudo philosophies from Orient, if they need steroids, anti depressants, sleeping aids, thats because love is disapearing , because families are dysfunctional, and all of this is happening because the Words of God have been abandonned. All these bullshit pseudo medicaqtions full of side effects were developed  as religion was gradually abandonned , because people fell for all the traps of modernism, and lost faith. And all these jobs, all these ''docs'' are assholes who need mentally ill people to survive, to have a job, they strive on other people problems, they strive on the disapearing of love and they give bullshit solutions to their ''customers''. And they re the biggest atheists, the most anti christian assholes on earth, you connect the dots.This is the irony of the whole thing. Again, you fail to understand the order of things. You put the consequences before the causes, which is ilogical, and ignorant. Most human beings are only caring about what tomorow will be made of. Job. Dinner. Sex. TV, Internet, workout. Bed. We re designed to do so by evolution. Tomorow i can anticipate this, this, and that. And? And that's about it. That's how our brains work. Currently we all collectively know some major shit is going to hit the fan in some weeks, months. Yet we cant do anything about it individually speaking. We re just waiting for it to happen. Says a lot about our so called free will, our "power". We also know we re going to go thru something that alrdy happened in the past to our ancestors thanks to historians who wrote it all on paper so we can compare our current situation with theirs centuries ago. Yet we can t do shit about it even if we know it alrdy happened. We re as powerless as were our ancestors when they described the fall of the roman empire of occident. There can only be individuals solutions, no collective solutions. Nations dont exist anymore. Industrials, megacorporations use journalists , medias and politicians like pupets. And they are only following their own greed and dont give a single damn about the globalized mankind under them in the societal pyramid. They re only purpose in life is to stay at the top, and prevent people from lower positions to get to them and replace them. One can only decide to prepare himself and his loved ones to what s going to happen. He, she, cannot change the world. He cannot change the rules of nature. He can only adapt, to survive...

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Re: Effects Of Beauty Run Surprisingly Deep And In Other News Water Is Wet
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