Who here resists growing up for the sake of having fun

[da_vinci]

I'm almost 30? Why would I go to college party events? What would I tell these hot young women? That I have manual job? That I used to look better, but now my scoliosis and damaged knees won't allow me to train the way I want to and have to train however I can to sustain a skinny manlet look? Yeah it would go splendid, hot pussy for days!

I need some amphetamine and testosterone to get that sustainable and steady motivation plus happiness to start doing something productive, like learning languages, learning something you know would make you more appealing to the opposite sex (the hot ones), lol

I mean you people have no clue how some of us have it. It's impossible for some of us. This "growing up" is a miss match between words and meaning. It's great that your life turned out the way it did, but some of us are experiencing a slow motherfucking death already.

Well I'm sorry to hear that, really, you re pretty fucked up, but still more interesting than many "normal" people, I'd rather spend some good time with borderline crazy, than with righteus and crhist loving "proper citizens". Not much of an advice I can offer tho, this is a case of "very different realities" that people can have. Only way for you would be to start earning serious money, it would alleviate a lot of that inner discomfort, you could at least make a fool out of yourself and not sweat it too much, as you'd know you'll be back at your nice place and fuck a vip escort. Rob a bank? Silk road market? Kidding... better something legal, start slow and small, to feel comfortable, build it up gradually.

[falco]

Man I'm in my early 30s and seems like most my age just want to have kids and spend all their time at a shitty job.

All I can think of is having fun. Riding motorcycles, camping, hiking, lifting weights, drinking around a campfire, target shooting. Just so much fun shit to do, why do people focus so much on adulting.

I'm open to marriage if the right chick came along but I will never want to be in a situation where I am adulting 100% of the time and not having much fun. F that!

Speak on this getbig.

Keep that lifestyle as long as you can. Choose marriage over that ONLY if you find a women that will be a good wife and a good mother. Still... we never too sure.
Once you have kids, your life is over and you start living solely the life of your kids.

[Grape Ape]

Once you have kids, your life is over and you start living solely the life of your kids.

100% wrong.

But run with that if it makes you feel better.

[Tha Grim Lifter]

I spend all my days working and I like it. I like getting to new levels and learning new things. Having kids to me just kills that and I would go fucking nuts. I don't want a mediocre life where i can't do what i want to.

Plus I know no-one has mentioned it so far in this thread but the amount of older guys I've met who have had their life fucked over by getting married and/or having kids is ridiculous. The laws in too many countries are firmly on the side of the woman and there is way too much risk to a man to get married and have kids. Where would any motivation be to earn more money and push yourself when some bitch you hate gets some of it.

I'm also 36 and look in my 20's. I don't age fast, too much training and good eating and lack of rec drugs. I wonder what will happen when i start looking like i am in my 30's if anything will change with how others perceive me.

[CalvinH]

I'm an adult that's still a kid.

[Fortress]

I live in a nice, two-bedroom condo. Never want to own a house.

I have a secure and very well-paying job. The dough's all mine.

I own a badass Jeep Rubicon that looks like the goddamn Batmobile.

I have zero interest in having a kid. Besides, I love my kids too much to ever have them. This world has become far too beta and fucked up.

I'm single. Don't want to marry or live with a broad. Came close to the former and have done the latter.

I pursue the same passions at 46 that I did when I was 16: music, weight training, etc.

All my oldschool buds are married with kids. They've abandoned themselves to accommodate/satisfy another and be a slave to some snotty child(ren).

I eat a pizza, shatter some PRs in the gym, hit a flick, wack it to some quality porn, and then jam metal CDs.

High school bro wakes to a noisy house, the wife rambling about having to shuttle the kids here and there, is reminded about that "thing" with her sister's family, and is told the night's movie pick has to be friendly to both her sensibilities and the children's.

If he wants any alone/him time, he might be able to score five minutes out in the garage. He thinks that old Hustler might still be in the back of the tools drawer out there. If she finds it, he's in deep do-do.

I'm very satisfied and happy being "immature", thank you very much.

[YngiweRhoads]

Never married and no kids. I've got a g/f who has one son who lives at home but I do my own thing. ie practice guitar 2-4 hrs a day, gym, study, school, work. Love my life.

[Grape Ape]

I live in a nice, two-bedroom condo. Never want to own a house.

I have a secure and very well-paying job. The dough's all mine.

I have zero interest in having a kid. Besides, I love my kids too much to ever have them. This world has become far too beta and fucked up.

I'm single. Don't want to marry or live with a broad. Came close to the former and have done the latter.

I pursue the same passions at 46 that I did when I was 16: music, weight training, etc.

All my oldschool buds are married with kids. They've abandoned themselves to accommodate/satisfy another and be a slave to some snotty child(ren). I eat a pizza, shatter some PRs in the gym, hit a flick, wack it to some quality porn, and then jam metal CDs.

High school bro wakes to a noisy house, the wife rambling about having to shuttle the kids here and there, is reminded about that "thing" with her sister's family, and is told the night's movie pick has to be friendly to both her sensibilities and the children's.

If he wants any alone/him time, he might be able to score five minutes out in the garage. He thinks that old Hustler might still be in the back of the tools drawer out there. If she finds it, he's in deep do-do.

I'm very satisfied and happy being "immature", thank you very much.

I wouldn't consider this immature, just your way.   It works well for you.

I just get involved in these threads to show the other side - i do a lot of the exact same shit you do (uncannily similar, lol) within the context of having a family.

[da_vinci]

I live in a nice, two-bedroom condo. Never want to own a house.

I have a secure and very well-paying job. The dough's all mine.

I own a badass Jeep Rubicon that looks like the goddamn Batmobile.

I have zero interest in having a kid. Besides, I love my kids too much to ever have them. This world has become far too beta and fucked up.

I'm single. Don't want to marry or live with a broad. Came close to the former and have done the latter.

I pursue the same passions at 46 that I did when I was 16: music, weight training, etc.

All my oldschool buds are married with kids. They've abandoned themselves to accommodate/satisfy another and be a slave to some snotty child(ren).

I eat a pizza, shatter some PRs in the gym, hit a flick, wack it to some quality porn, and then jam metal CDs.

High school bro wakes to a noisy house, the wife rambling about having to shuttle the kids here and there, is reminded about that "thing" with her sister's family, and is told the night's movie pick has to be friendly to both her sensibilities and the children's.

If he wants any alone/him time, he might be able to score five minutes out in the garage. He thinks that old Hustler might still be in the back of the tools drawer out there. If she finds it, he's in deep do-do.

I'm very satisfied and happy being "immature", thank you very much.

Lol. This is epic.

[Fortress]

Never married and no kids. I've got a g/f who has one son who lives at home but I do my own thing. ie practice guitar 2-4 hrs a day, gym, study, school, work. Love my life.

Been nerding to Lukather lately. Also Jorn Viggo Lofstad of Pagan's Mind and Vogg from Decapitated.

[mazrim]

I'm married and soon adopting. As soon as I signed that marriage license the fun just stopped immediately. Terrible life.  

[Man of Steel]

I would try and have it both ways. Have fun and be irresponsible as long as possible, but consider settling down before too late and having kids as well. It feels like an epic adventure some days having kids, when you aren't stuck in the weeds changing diapers.

Life can be Huge and Grand and epic in scope if you are open to that, and having kids will certainly foster that feeling of being a part of a huge spectacle.

this is true!

[da_vinci]

this is true!

You are bible thumping confused and not exactly very bright weakling, what do you know what is "true" ffs...

[Yamcha]

You are bible thumping confused and not exactly very bright weakling, what do you know what is "true" ffs...

The love of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints

[Disco187]

I feel the same way about this topic.

Ive tried the married game to a beautiful russian girl born in moscow, we were best friends for three years went to new york city on the wknds danced, partied, had amazing sex, had the same friends, same hobbies, sence of fashion.  She was completely loyal couldnt ask for a better companion.

after about 5 years all that changed we went from friends to foes, got very very violent and ended terribly . Luckily I didnt have to pay her a dime all said in done but im not going to get into that.

I want nothing to do with marriage i feel and scene many many times that the two people in time eventually wind up hating each other, most of the time its not done purposely it just seams to happen.

I was also in another relationship long term the second of the two beutiful blonde blue eyed young girl, faked double d tits, the works. Same exact shit happend again.  But this time it was due to finances.  We both had good jobs, not at the same time but after the economy tanked we both got laid off.  Once the bills started to pile up and we couldnt do simple things like go out to dinner, shit just started hitting the fan.

if you want to test your marriage try some financial difficulty .

I persently am single have a nice apartment in the city, make great money,Nice knew car, can buy whatever I want and have a few girls that I see on the wknds and thats plenty!  maybe when im old and grey i will get married to a woman that can take care of herself.!!!! that is a must.

as far as kids, this is just my opinion but i dont know if I would even want to raise kids in todays fucked up social media society where young kids have no respect for anything and they already seam to be know it alls and do not like the word no.  I have tons of experience seeing this first hand.  I can truely say that I have met one kid that I was like dam what a geat teenaged kid.

[devilsmile]

I feel the same way about this topic.

Ive tried the married game to a beautiful russian girl born in moscow, we were best friends for three years went to new york city on the wknds danced, partied, had amazing sex, had the same friends, same hobbies, sence of fashion.  She was completely loyal couldnt ask for a better companion.

after about 5 years all that changed we went from friends to foes, got very very violent and ended terribly . Luckily I didnt have to pay her a dime all said in done but im not going to get into that.

I want nothing to do with marriage i feel and scene many many times that the two people in time eventually wind up hating each other, most of the time its not done purposely it just seams to happen.

I was also in another relationship long term the second of the two beutiful blonde blue eyed young girl, faked double d tits, the works. Same exact shit happend again.  But this time it was due to finances.  We both had good jobs, not at the same time but after the economy tanked we both got laid off.  Once the bills started to pile up and we couldnt do simple things like go out to dinner, shit just started hitting the fan.

if you want to test your marriage try some financial difficulty .

I persently am single have a nice apartment in the city, make great money,Nice knew car, can buy whatever I want and have a few girls that I see on the wknds and thats plenty!  maybe when im old and grey i will get married to a woman that can take care of herself.!!!! that is a must.

as far as kids, this is just my opinion but i dont know if I would even want to raise kids in todays fucked up social media society where young kids have no respect for anything and they already seam to be know it alls and do not like the word no.  I have tons of experience seeing this first hand.  I can truely say that I have met one kid that I was like dam what a geat teenaged kid.

Exactly. Solid post!

My parents were together for 30 years. They had so many ups and downs. My dad cheated on my mother twice, they divorced once and were seperated for a year. My mom didn't have noone during that time and then they remarried. I mean 30 years of joy, battles, wars, arguments, but they did it.

All these perfect mirrage lives having getbiggers should wait few more years, I am certain that nine out of ten of those relationships/mirrages will end up in break up because modern human in 2016 just can't understand commitment during the shittiest phases in mirrage or relationship, because that's when it all counts, that's the ultimate test of your "grown people" values.

Because the values can't be very strong if you can't endure fights and storms in mirrage/relationship, right? I don't know any perfect partnership between man and woman or even same sex, they all have fights, bad ones too, and they mostly break up. Some grown up people..

Knowing all this... some of us rather search for god than for that "perfect woman". Not judging noone tho.

Well I'm sorry to hear that, really, you re pretty fucked up, but still more interesting than many "normal" people, I'd rather spend some good time with borderline crazy, than with righteus and crhist loving "proper citizens". Not much of an advice I can offer tho, this is a case of "very different realities" that people can have. Only way for you would be to start earning serious money, it would alleviate a lot of that inner discomfort, you could at least make a fool out of yourself and not sweat it too much, as you'd know you'll be back at your nice place and fuck a vip escort. Rob a bank? Silk road market? Kidding... better something legal, start slow and small, to feel comfortable, build it up gradually.

I know exactly what to do, but.... you know how it can be. Don't worry, I'm not emo about it, fuck that shit. It's just that sometimes I wish I was like a dog, like if I saw pizza it was like seeing pussy, ya know what I mean ? I mean I want things that I don't need. But I guess I need them if the human genome is coded in a way that human beings need to get shit done in order to feel satisfaction about themselves. I think that's why people try to do things, difficult things, sometimes near death experiences just so they can say "I did it". I mean some people free climb the mountains, but why? Da fuck... But if they didn't do it, they would get depressed. Fucking humanity.

[Tapeworm]

Fun is for fags.  Real men are miserable and like it, goddammit.

[SF1900]

Fun is for fags.  Real men are miserable and like it, goddammit.

So, are you implying that you wouldnt want to go on spring break? 

[calfzilla]

Fun is for fags.  Real men are miserable and like it, goddammit.

Lol seriously some guys say that shit with a straight face. 

[Master Blaster]

You are bible thumping confused and not exactly very bright weakling, what do you know what is "true" ffs...

I think he was confirming my statement in regards to the fact that having children confers an existential reward beyond mere procreation.

The fact that human kind has perpetuated itself for an untold millennium stretching back before recorded history itself was committed to pen and paper seems to be a pretty good argument in our favor. If you are capable of breathing through more orifices than your slack jawed open mouth, perhaps you can levy an argument towards why his agreement was "not exactly very bright weakling" you pusillanimous discharge of a pathetic Main Board Bottom Feeding Chum Dweller.

[da_vinci]

I think he was confirming my statement in regards to the fact that having children confers an existential reward beyond mere procreation.

The fact that human kind has perpetuated itself for an untold millennium stretching back before recorded history itself was committed to pen and paper seems to be a pretty good argument in our favor. If you are capable of breathing through more orifices than your slack jawed open mouth, perhaps you can levy an argument towards why his agreement was "not exactly very bright weakling" you pusillanimous discharge of a pathetic Main Board Bottom Feeding Chum Dweller.

Are you his lawyer?

[da_vinci]

Exactly. Solid post!

My parents were together for 30 years. They had so many ups and downs. My dad cheated on my mother twice, they divorced once and were seperated for a year. My mom didn't have noone during that time and then they remarried. I mean 30 years of joy, battles, wars, arguments, but they did it.

All these perfect mirrage lives having getbiggers should wait few more years, I am certain that nine out of ten of those relationships/mirrages will end up in break up because modern human in 2016 just can't understand commitment during the shittiest phases in mirrage or relationship, because that's when it all counts, that's the ultimate test of your "grown people" values.

Because the values can't be very strong if you can't endure fights and storms in mirrage/relationship, right? I don't know any perfect partnership between man and woman or even same sex, they all have fights, bad ones too, and they mostly break up. Some grown up people..

Knowing all this... some of us rather search for god than for that "perfect woman". Not judging noone tho.

I know exactly what to do, but.... you know how it can be. Don't worry, I'm not emo about it, fuck that shit. It's just that sometimes I wish I was like a dog, like if I saw pizza it was like seeing pussy, ya know what I mean ? I mean I want things that I don't need. But I guess I need them if the human genome is coded in a way that human beings need to get shit done in order to feel satisfaction about themselves. I think that's why people try to do things, difficult things, sometimes near death experiences just so they can say "I did it". I mean some people free climb the mountains, but why? Da fuck... But if they didn't do it, they would get depressed. Fucking humanity.

People want to believe in fairy tales, just like man in the sky, etc... They want to believe it, until they fall face straght to the mud. Some still resist to acknowledge the reality, that's human nature I guess.

Regarding near death experiences, the last time I was on one fucked up attraction in one of these fun parks, where they are spinning you high in the air, I srsly thought I'm gonna die, ffs that was scary as hell, but..........I liked it so much, never felt so alive at the same time.

[devilsmile]

People want to believe in fairy tales, just like man in the sky, etc... They want to believe it, until they fall face straght to the mud. Some still resist to acknowledge the reality, that's human nature I guess.

Regarding near death experiences, the last time I was on one fucked up attraction in one of these fun parks, where they are spinning you high in the air, I srsly thought I'm gonna die, ffs that was scary as hell, but..........I liked it so much, never felt so alive at the same time.

It was just a saying. Because there is no perfect woman or man or relationship or mirrage, but those things are absolutely real. Yet people want to endure the hell in the relationship because they can't be alone. Which is crazier, meditating perfection that you can't describe or settling down with pain in the ass in 10 years with regrets and call it life?

I guess you didn't quite understand what I was trying to say, but whatever. Scientists in 100 years will read my post and agree with me .

people do all kinds of shit to feel alive. I just want to understand why do people have the need for stuff they don't need in order to get through the day happy.

 90% of the shit we do has nothing to do with survival but pure cosmetics and adrenalin rush. I can only guess that it's because we don't have to do shit to survive anymore like in the old days waaaay back, we don't have any sense of needing to fight for survival so we need to create gimmicks in order to feel that same rush, and so we can't be happy unless we try to out do ourselves or use drugs/drink alcohol.

[_bruce_]

Fun is for fags.  Real men are miserable and like it, goddammit.

Hahaha - spoken like a true Road Warrior 

@devil-cries: start slowly, studying something interesting. The capacity to learn doesn't come overnight. Delving into something that enables you to have the capacity to solve problems will make you feel better - a lot. It's a male thing... anal-lyze, think, plan, build and succeed.
Training should be ok if you go really light - you can still look good.

[devilsmile]

Hahaha - spoken like a true Road Warrior 

@devil-cries: start slowly, studying something interesting. The capacity to learn doesn't come overnight. Delving into something that enables you to have the capacity to solve problems will make you feel better - a lot. It's a male thing... anal-lyze, think, plan, build and succeed.
Training should be ok if you go really light - you can still look good.

I'm not crying, I'm not emo, I'm just bored. And what you said about solving problems will make you feel better is not a male thing it's a human thing. I bet you skipped like 95% of what I typed based on your reply, I acknowledged how people have the need to accomplish things, I just wanted to start a conversation why do people have the need... like scientifically why do we have the need.

get motivated, start slowly, stay consistent, improve, get better... yeah I never thought about that before.