How Are There So Many People That Just Don't Know How to Lift Weights Correctly?

[Tha Grim Lifter]

Form takes a while to learn. I've been training 20 years, i know where to slow down at the negative and push through the positive but it took years. I can do lighter sets to failure on any exercise and i feel everything now as opposed to what i felt early on. Which is also one reason i don't squat or deadlift anymore it just hits too much at once.

[oldtimer1]

Most people that pull from pins do it because of limited mobility off the floor and/or injury. Please educate yourself before you just start projecting your ignorance.

Go fuck yourself. Where did you get the information that "most people."  You pull from one foot off the floor so you can tell people you deadlift 100lbs over what you could do off the floor dickhead.

[_aj_]

Go fuck yourself. Where did you get the information that "most people."  You pull from one foot off the floor so you can tell people you deadlift 100lbs over what you could do off the floor dickhead.

 

http://www.elitefts.com/education/training/powerlifting/five-ways-to-fix-your-deadlift-today/

EDUCATE YOURSELF before you shoot off your mouth, fool.

[Never1AShow]

You see these idiots who probably come to the gym twice a month who just don't seem to know what the hell they are doing. They have absolutely zero mind muscle connection and just move the weight from point a to point b. They think that just by flailing around some weight that they are getting something out of it. This is the perfect example I can think of:

The guys who do lat pulldowns like rows and lean so far back that their back is parallel to the floor.

I'm gonna hafta go ago ahead and disagree here.  The only time I see people swinging back on lat pull downs is when they are using significant amounts of weight, people who are fairly experienced and strong.  The bigger problem is people using very light weight doing these, getting practically nothing out of it.

[Never1AShow]

Everyone I've ever known who placed excess emphasis on form was small and weak.  Don't make that mistake.

[dseiler]

Everyone I've ever known who placed excess emphasis on form was small and weak.  Don't make that mistake.

Everyone? Come on...

[SupplementGuy]

Everyone I've ever known who placed excess emphasis on form was small and weak.  Don't make that mistake.

Like that dummy Charles Poliquin huh

[rocket]

Everyone I've ever known who placed excess emphasis on form was small and weak.  Don't make that mistake.

I pretty much agree with this.  There are always exceptions, of course, but people who are strong only care about form for one thing - avoiding injuries.  Stuff like pulling back a little on the lat pulldown - not bad form, actually fairly natural, considering the natural arc of a pullup.

http://www.elitefts.com/education/training/powerlifting/five-ways-to-fix-your-deadlift-today/

EDUCATE YOURSELF before you shoot off your mouth, fool.

You've not educated him.  He knows that rack pulls have a function if you're dying at that particular point.

And again, I'd agree with him.  I have never seen anybody at the gyms I have been to with mobility problems - they always have the same vibe.  They squat on a smith machine and do very heavy rack pulls, very rarely deadlifting.  Phaggots.. basically.

[_aj_]

I pretty much agree with this.  There are always exceptions, of course, but people who are strong only care about form for one thing - avoiding injuries.  Stuff like pulling back a little on the lat pulldown - not bad form, actually fairly natural, considering the natural arc of a pullup.

You've not educated him.  He knows that rack pulls have a function if you're dying at that particular point.

And again, I'd agree with him.  I have never seen anybody at the gyms I have been to with mobility problems - they always have the same vibe.  They squat on a smith machine and do very heavy rack pulls, very rarely deadlifting.  Phaggots.. basically.

I have a busted up lower back and shitty hip mobility. Pulling off 3" of pads is the difference between deadlifting and not deadlifting.

[Julio Ceasar]

Everyone I've ever known who placed excess emphasis on form was small and weak.  Don't make that mistake.

Everyone who lift heavy is fat farts looking like shit and have no arms! Just saying...

Keep the training volyme up, focus on form, eat clean food!

[Ropo]

I pretty much agree with this.  There are always exceptions, of course, but people who are strong only care about form for one thing - avoiding injuries.  Stuff like pulling back a little on the lat pulldown - not bad form, actually fairly natural, considering the natural arc of a pullup.

You've not educated him.  He knows that rack pulls have a function if you're dying at that particular point.

And again, I'd agree with him.  I have never seen anybody at the gyms I have been to with mobility problems - they always have the same vibe.  They squat on a smith machine and do very heavy rack pulls, very rarely deadlifting.  Phaggots.. basically.

How exactly you would see it while you have your head up in your ass all the time? Have you never even try to think that people would have something like scoliosis for example, and that alone could be the reason why they doesn't want to use free weights for squat, and would be strengthen their lower back with the rack pulls rather than deadlifts? One of the most common structural mobility problem? Your spine is crooked so it is really easy to get herniated disk if you don't know all the time what you are doing.   

[kreator]

99,9% of the lifters aren't lifting with perfect technique because they don't even know what that means. Even standing  anatomically correct requires a lot of effort and a lot of muscle activation. Head position,feet position, proper abdominal, glute, rhomboid and middle trap activaton, all this stuff plus more should be considered done right before even attempting to lift something heavy. This is how you avoid injury for a lifetime.

[cephissus]

there's nothing simple about lifting weights

success doesn't come on account of knowledge, in most cases.  it's usually a happy accident.

[The Abdominal Snoman]

To be fair most people who know how to body build train don't know shit about dumbbell rotator cuff exercises. They might know one or two but there's literally dozens.. It's not until you fuck up your shoulder to the point it needs treatment that you come to the understanding that the skinny old guy you seen in the gym looking like he's doing a lot of shit wrong, was possibly doing ligament type exercises...

This Obama gif looks retarded to me as a muscle building exercise. But bending forward and having the dumbbell go higher than the elbows but not higher than shoulder height isn't a bad exercise for rotator strengthing.



The reverse fly for rotator cuff injuries. Before rotator cuff problems if I seen someone doing these, I'd think they didn't know what the fuck they were doing. Looks like what Obama is doing except the bouncing Obama does...

https://zippy.gfycat.com/WearyFrailAustralianfurseal.webm

Some good rotator exercises here

http://www.healthline.com/health/rotator-cuff-injury-stretches#1

[Ropo]

there's nothing simple about lifting weights

success doesn't come on account of knowledge, in most cases.  it's usually a happy accident.

Yep. In the happy accident which combine a decent IQ, in human motivation, high pain threshold, ability to concentrate, good proportions and the genes which are able to maintain the health while using an absurd amounts of different drugs  

So what is the difference between Arnold, Haney, Yates, Coleman and Heath, compared to Kamali, Sacrev, Warren, Dillet and Palumbo? Just luck? Or could it be the fact, that successful guys do smart things, and un successful guys do dumb things? I mean that dumb fucking tools like Kamali doesn't need luck, they need a fucking miracle to be a successful, but the smart guys like Arnold? They understand what they have to do to be a successful, and just do it.

[rocket]

How exactly you would see it while you have your head up in your ass all the time? Have you never even try to think that people would have something like scoliosis for example, and that alone could be the reason why they doesn't want to use free weights for squat, and would be strengthen their lower back with the rack pulls rather than deadlifts? One of the most common structural mobility problem? Your spine is crooked so it is really easy to get herniated disk if you don't know all the time what you are doing.   

I tend to witness them deadlift and squat without problems once every few months, that's how I know they can handle it.

[cephissus]

So what is the difference between Arnold, Haney, Yates, Coleman and Heath, compared to Kamali, Sacrev, Warren, Dillet and Palumbo? Just luck? Or could it be the fact, that successful guys do smart things, and un successful guys do dumb things? I mean that dumb fucking tools like Kamali doesn't need luck, they need a fucking miracle to be a successful, but the smart guys like Arnold? They understand what they have to do to be a successful, and just do it.

Not sure if you're serious, but are you saying Coleman, the guy who squatted himself into four hundred spinal fusions and seven hip replacements, won his 8 olympias because of his "understanding"

[_aj_]

I tend to witness them deadlift and squat without problems once every few months, that's how I know they can handle it.

So then they are using rack pulls as a supplementary exercise to get better at the deadlift. Really man, just STFU now.

[rocket]

So then they are using rack pulls as a supplementary exercise to get better at the deadlift. Really man, just STFU now.

If you think it's possible to squat and deadlift once every few months and do supplementary exercises all the rest and still get better at the main lifts I am all ears to this workout.