1993 flex wheeler destroying dorian yates

[Wiggs]

Only Haney deserved all his titles.  Arnold didn't, Dorian didn't, Ronnie didn't, Jay didn't and Phil doesn't.

[Royalty]

Only Haney deserved all his titles.  Arnold didn't, Dorian didn't, Ronnie didn't, Jay didn't and Phil doesn't.

In some pics, Mike Christian looked like he could've beaten Haney in 1990

[njflex]

Only Haney deserved all his titles.  Arnold didn't, Dorian didn't, Ronnie didn't, Jay didn't and Phil doesn't.

90 DEPENDING ON PICS/PERSONAL VIEW,,LABRADA COULD HAVE TAKEN IT BUT LEE SAID FLEA LABRADA IS NOT BIG ENOUGH..MIKE CHRISTIAN LOOKED GREAT TOO..

[Wiggs]

I've heard this and seen the pics and videos.

This was the only drug tested Olympia.  Which is bullshit BTW.

[TSNWGS]

Maybe since the Olympia sanctioned event is basically a dictatorship they should have introduced legislation that no champ can win more than 2 consecutive sandows, that they must sit out 1 year after 2 wins, this would of made the landscape more legit!

[njflex]

I've heard this and seen the pics and videos.

This was the only drug tested Olympia.  Which is bullshit BTW.

this show was probably last time you would see most of these guys smaller and 91 and then into yates reign even smaller guys like labrada got bigger than ever ,lee was at or over 190ish at 5'4  on stage and with his great shape and symmetry looked even bigger lb for lb.

[Danimal77]

90 DEPENDING ON PICS/PERSONAL VIEW,,LABRADA COULD HAVE TAKEN IT BUT LEE SAID FLEA LABRADA IS NOT BIG ENOUGH..MIKE CHRISTIAN LOOKED GREAT TOO..

Agreed.

[Danimal77]

this show was probably last time you would see most of these guys smaller and 91 and then into yates reign even smaller guys like labrada got bigger than ever ,lee was at or over 190ish at 5'4  on stage and with his great shape and symmetry looked even bigger lb for lb.

He was closer to 5'3" legit and 185 at that point, but had great symmetry and shape. He tried to play the size game by the early 90's coming in at 195, but then bowed out with dignity and integrity.

[Nether Animal]

90 DEPENDING ON PICS/PERSONAL VIEW,,LABRADA COULD HAVE TAKEN IT BUT LEE SAID FLEA LABRADA IS NOT BIG ENOUGH..MIKE CHRISTIAN LOOKED GREAT TOO..

Yeah, Haney was way off, as most were..

[Danimal77]

Only Deserved multi Olympia winners are: Arnold, Lee Haney, and Ronnie Coleman! The other multi winners are all just political moves! Dorian and Jay all politics!

Arnold had almost no competition in the 1970's. At least no one close to being in his league. When he returned in 1980 competition was improving. He wouldn't have beaten a 1982 version of Lou Ferrigno, or guys like Lee Haney whose muscle was more dense and was more of a complete package (had actual legs).

Ronnie's 2002 win was HUGELY debatable.

[njflex]

Yeah, Haney was way off, as most were..

HIS delts look great there tho but lower to outer lats were down and lower back..even so I bet strydom could still not beat this back in 90 ..

[Royalty]

Yeah, Haney was way off, as most were..

Haney's Rear Double Bi looks terrible there. He redeemed himself in 1991.

[Wiggs]

Haney's Rear Double Bi looks terrible there. He redeemed himself in 1991.

Yes, no drugs vs. drugs.

[Royalty]

Mike Christian was ripped in 1990. A bit smaller... but looked very good.

Great most muscular at 2:29

[Dr Dutch]

I'd rather look like Wheeler than Yates.

outed...

[doriancutlerman]

So you're ignoring quads, biceps, midsection and overall leanness?

Wheeler had superior biceps, but quads?  Overall leanness?  LOL.

Sorry, Danimal; I say that mockingly, but I do not mean to mock you. 

It's just that I don't see Flex taking any compulsory pose except maybe the front double-biceps.  Yates murders him on the rest -- including, yes, the ab/thigh.  Yates' shoulder/lat taper to waist and the general superiority of his wheels SMOKES Flex in that pose ... the only reason Flex looks more aesthetic there is because he's crunching his quad down to show cross-striations.  Yates, meanwhile, is showing the "thigh-rod," far superior thigh size, hams and calves.

And again, overall leanness?  ?!  Huh?!  Kenny was very ripped for this show, but Dorian was literally a cut above (hahahaha pun intended hahaha ... ha).  Flex was actually lucky to make it past Shawn Ray in this outing; he was never a threat to the Doz -- not even close. 

And yes, that's coming from someone who HATED Flex's shit, arrogant personality BUT would have preferred he should've won every show he entered so long as he was in-shape, the 1993 Olympia included.

[disco_stu]

labrada shouldve won in 1991. he was the best in 1990 also.

wheeler;'s back wasnt thick enough. his legs were on the slim side for a massive pro also.

flex had great arms and delts. calf implants means he wasnt the best BB at all IMO.

yates had a huge back, quads, calves and decent pecs and was granite dry.

thats about how it went..

[Royalty]

labrada shouldve won in 1991. he was the best in 1990 also.

wheeler;'s back wasnt thick enough. his legs were on the slim side for a massive pro also.

flex had great arms and delts. calf implants means he wasnt the best BB at all IMO.

yates had a huge back, quads, calves and decent pecs and was granite dry.

thats about how it went..

There's no way that Labrada could beat Yates & Haney on the same night

240-250lb will always beat 190lb

[Wiggs]

I don't think anyone has ever had a better torso than Lee Haney. Even better than Oliva.

[Grape Ape]

I don't think anyone has ever had a better torso than Lee Haney. Even better than Oliva.

Coleman did.  Haney was awesome, but had small arms in relation to his torso.  Prime Ronnie was ridiculous.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Coleman did.  Haney was awesome, but had small arms in relation to his torso.  Prime Ronnie was ridiculous.

Ronnie's midsection just ruins it  

[Wiggs]

Coleman did.  Haney was awesome, but had small arms in relation to his torso.  Prime Ronnie was ridiculous.

Ronnie had an odd looking abdominal wall , and lackluster serratus and intercostals in his prime. Haney's arms were not small.  Bodybuilding being arm dominant vs. torso dominant in the mid 90s.  I guess it depends on what you like. 

[Danimal77]

There's no way that Labrada could beat Yates & Haney on the same night

240-250lb will always beat 190lb

Samir and Momo Makaway both beat Haney at the 1983 Mr. Olympia. Samir was 188 pounds and Momo was 160 pounds. Haney was 230. There goes your "always" rule.

[Royalty]

Samir and Momo Makaway both beat Haney at the 1983 Mr. Olympia. Samir was 188 pounds and Momo was 160 pounds. Haney was 230. There goes your "always" rule.

Haney at 250 was untouchable

[Grape Ape]

Ronnie had an odd looking abdominal wall , and lackluster serratus and intercostals in his prime. Haney's arms were not small.  Bodybuilding being arm dominant vs. torso dominant in the mid 90s.  I guess it depends on what you like. 

I think they were both awesome in the context of the era they were in.   Head to head is hard for this, but have to give Ronnie the nod for the sheer mass and conditioning and overall crazy factor.  The gut sucks, but that was pretty much all of them at that point.

There's a MM pic backstage with him, Levrone, and Ray.   To me, that shot showed just how far ahead of them he was.  If you look at each one individually, they all look insane, but comparatively he's just way ahead.