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Saudi Arabia
« on: April 18, 2016, 08:17:12 AM »
Saudi Arabia threatens to pull $750B from U.S. economy if Congress allows them to be sued for 9/11 terror attacks

Outraged 9/11 families accused Saudi Arabian officials Saturday of blackmailing the U.S. to hide their alleged role as financiers of the World Trade Center terrorists.

The fierce attacks came after a Saturday report that the Saudis threatened to sell off up to $750 billion in U.S. assets if Congress passes legislation allowing its government to be held liable in 9/11-related lawsuits.

Families who lost loved ones in the terror attacks say President Obama, who is lobbying intensively to derail the bill, according to The New York Times, is on the wrong side of the issue.

“I’m furious. This is a slap in the face to the 9/11 families,” said Jim Riches, the retired FDNY deputy chief whose firefighter son Jimmy died in the Trade Center rubble.

“Let them keep their money. We don’t want their money. It’s not worth 3,000 American lives. Call their bluff.”

Riches slammed Obama, five months shy of the 15th anniversary of the attacks.

“How in his right conscience can he do this?” Riches asked. “Meanwhile, they slap us in the face. Stand up for our principles.”

Terry Strada, whose husband Thomas was a Cantor Fitzgerald bond broker on the 104th floor, echoed other family voices by urging the Obama administration to stand its ground against the Saudi financial threat.

“Why do they cave in to the Saudi Arabian government instead of protecting the American people?” she asked. “They’re just trying to keep the Saudis’ dirty little secret. We’ve never held them accountable.”

The family members are currently appealing a decision made last year that protected Saudi Arabia from a lawsuit charging the country abetted the 9/11 terrorists. Fifteen of the 19 hijackers were Saudi Arabian citizens.

Saudi Foreign Minister Adel al-Jubeir, in a Washington visit last month, informed U.S. lawmakers of the potential sale of treasury securities and other American assets, the Times reported. The move would be necessary to prevent U.S. courts from possibly freezing the assets due to lawsuits.

The move could destabilize the U.S. dollar, experts told the Times.

 “It’s blackmail, that’s all it is,” said Sharon Premoli, who escaped from the 80th floor of the north tower after the hijacked planes hit.

“This has got to stop,” she said flatly. “The threat shows that they are really nervous. They don’t want to show up in court.”

The harsh words and lingering tensions provide a backdrop for Obama’s planned Wednesday trip to Riyadh for meetings with Saudi officials, including King Salman.

The bipartisan Senate bill is co-sponsored by New York Sen. Chuck Schumer, a Democrat, and Texas Sen. John Cornyn, a Republican.

Cornyn said last month that the Justice Against Sponsors of Terrorism Act was critical to “stopping the funding source for terrorists.” Strada agreed.

“If the money trail leads back to foreign nations, we have to follow it and take action, and this legislation is a very key part,” Strada said.

 “The only way to combat terrorism is to financially go after people who finance terrorism. Bombs, drones, feet on the ground — you can’t defeat ISIS until you go after their wealthy paymasters.”



Under current U.S. law, foreign nations are spared from such lawsuits under the Foreign Sovereign Immunity Act. Any new legislation would need the approval of both houses of Congress and the President.

The proposed bill would specifically allow legal action against other countries in cases of an attack on American soil.

The Obama camp was urging Congress to consider the financial and diplomatic fallout that would ensue with the longtime U.S. ally if the legislation became law.

Riches said the issue was far more visceral for the families of those killed at Ground Zero.

“Look what they did to us — 3,000 families lost a loved one,” he said. “And we’re worried about their feelings? It’s a disgrace.”

The 9/11 Commission, in its official report, declared there was “no evidence” linking the Saudi government or senior Saudi officials to funding for the attack.

But a 28-page portion of the Senate’s investigation into 9/11 remains classified, and people who have seen the documents say the Saudis were implicated.

The court battle has raged for years, with Saudi Arabia twice dismissed as a defendant in federal court. Last August, a Manhattan federal judge spared the country from legal action pending the appeal.

“Saudi Arabia would have a right to defend itself,” said Sean Carter, attorney for the 9/11 families in their suit. “When you view their response in that light, it really is telling.

“This is just a bill giving jurisdiction to the courts to hear the case.”

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Re: Saudi Arabia
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2016, 08:40:43 AM »
This is great.   The kneepadding Bush lovers that hate on anything that questions 9/11 now have to sit firmly on obama's lap with SA on this one.  You're either with obama, or you're with everyone else.   LOL!

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Re: Saudi Arabia
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2016, 08:47:19 AM »
This is great.   The kneepadding Bush lovers that hate on anything that questions 9/11 now have to sit firmly on obama's lap with SA on this one.  You're either with obama, or you're with everyone else.   LOL!

Perfect proof that "if you don't have anything to hide" is to apply only to the little people.

Asses need to be kicked on this one.


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Re: Saudi Arabia
« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2016, 06:04:54 PM »
Oh, you mean we retaliated against the wrong country?

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Re: Saudi Arabia
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2016, 12:18:39 PM »
Obama nuthuggers take notice.  Obama is now covering for Bandar Bush, George Tenet, and many others.

How US covered up Saudi role in 9/11

NYPost - Paul Sperry

In its report on the still-censored “28 pages” implicating the Saudi government in 9/11, “60 Minutes” last weekend said the Saudi role in the attacks has been “soft-pedaled” to protect America’s delicate alliance with the oil-rich kingdom.

That’s quite an understatement.

Actually, the kingdom’s involvement was deliberately covered up at the highest levels of our government. And the coverup goes beyond locking up 28 pages of the Saudi report in a vault in the US Capitol basement. Investigations were throttled. Co-conspirators were let off the hook.

Case agents I’ve interviewed at the Joint Terrorism Task Forces in Washington and San Diego, the forward operating base for some of the Saudi hijackers, as well as detectives at the Fairfax County (Va.) Police Department who also investigated several 9/11 leads, say virtually every road led back to the Saudi Embassy in Washington, as well as the Saudi Consulate in Los Angeles.

Yet time and time again, they were called off from pursuing leads. A common excuse was “diplomatic immunity.”

Those sources say the pages missing from the 9/11 congressional inquiry report — which comprise the entire final chapter dealing with “foreign support for the September 11 hijackers” — details “incontrovertible evidence” gathered from both CIA and FBI case files of official Saudi assistance for at least two of the Saudi hijackers who settled in San Diego.

Some information has leaked from the redacted section, including a flurry of pre-9/11 phone calls between one of the hijackers’ Saudi handlers in San Diego and the Saudi Embassy, and the transfer of some $130,000 from then-Saudi Ambassador Prince Bandar’s family checking account to yet another of the hijackers’ Saudi handlers in San Diego.

An investigator who worked with the JTTF in Washington complained that instead of investigating Bandar, the US government protected him — literally. He said the State Department assigned a security detail to help guard Bandar not only at the embassy, but also at his McLean, Va., mansion.

The source added that the task force wanted to jail a number of embassy employees, “but the embassy complained to the US attorney” and their diplomatic visas were revoked as a compromise.

Former FBI agent John Guandolo, who worked 9/11 and related al Qaeda cases out of the bureau’s Washington field office, says Bandar should have been a key suspect in the 9/11 probe.

“The Saudi ambassador funded two of the 9/11 hijackers through a third party,” Guandolo said. “He should be treated as a terrorist suspect, as should other members of the Saudi elite class who the US government knows are currently funding the global jihad.”

But Bandar held sway over the FBI.

After he met on Sept. 13, 2001, with President Bush in the White House, where the two old family friends shared cigars on the Truman Balcony, the FBI evacuated dozens of Saudi officials from multiple cities, including at least one Osama bin Laden family member on the terror watch list. Instead of interrogating the Saudis, FBI agents acted as security escorts for them, even though it was known at the time that 15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudi citizens.

“The FBI was thwarted from interviewing the Saudis we wanted to interview by the White House,” said former FBI agent Mark Rossini, who was involved in the investigation of al Qaeda and the hijackers. The White House “let them off the hook.”

What’s more, Rossini said the bureau was told no subpoenas could be served to produce evidence tying departing Saudi suspects to 9/11. The FBI, in turn, iced local investigations that led back to the Saudis.

“The FBI covered their ears every time we mentioned the Saudis,” said former Fairfax County Police Lt. Roger Kelly. “It was too political to touch.”

Added Kelly, who headed the National Capital Regional Intelligence Center: “You could investigate the Saudis alone, but the Saudis were ‘hands-off.’ ”

Even Anwar al-Awlaki, the hijackers’ spiritual adviser, escaped our grasp. In 2002, the Saudi-sponsored cleric was detained at JFK on passport fraud charges only to be released into the custody of a “Saudi representative.”

It wasn’t until 2011 that Awlaki was brought to justice — by way of a CIA drone strike.

Strangely, “The 9/11 Commission Report,” which followed the congressional inquiry, never cites the catch-and-release of Awlaki, and it mentions Bandar only in passing, his named buried in footnotes.

Two commission lawyers investigating the Saudi support network for the hijackers complained their boss, executive director Philip Zelikow, blocked them from issuing subpoenas and conducting interviews of Saudi suspects.

9/11 Commission member John Lehman was interested in the hijackers’ connections to Bandar, his wife and the Islamic affairs office at the embassy. But every time he tried to get information on that front, he was stonewalled by the White House.

“They were refusing to declassify anything having to do with Saudi Arabia,” Lehman was quoted as saying in the book, “The Commission.”

Did the US scuttle the investigation into foreign sponsorship of 9/11 to protect Bandar and other Saudi elite?

“Things that should have been done at the time were not done,” said Rep. Walter Jones, the North Carolina Republican who’s introduced a bill demanding President Obama release the 28 pages. “I’m trying to give you an answer without being too explicit.”

A Saudi reformer with direct knowledge of embassy involvement is more forthcoming.

“We made an ally of a regime that helped sponsor the attacks,” said Ali al-Ahmed of the Washington-based Institute for Gulf Affairs. “I mean, let’s face it.”

Paul Sperry is a former Hoover Institution media fellow and author of “Infiltration: How Muslim Spies and Subversives Have Penetrated Washington.”


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Re: Saudi Arabia
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2016, 12:58:56 PM »
Obama nuthuggers take notice.  Obama is now covering for Bandar Bush, George Tenet, and many others.


In order for any republicans to gloat on this, they'd first have to admit any level of bush wrongdoing in dealing with 911 ;)