Fucking Travesty-Harriet Tubman to replace the great Andrew Jackson on the 20

[Al Doggity]

My autocorrect keeps spelling her name with a "y". Harriet is well known, and yes far more well known than Phillis. Her poetry helped paved the way for many black female poets. Had she been put on the 20, chances are more women would seek to know more about her life, the life style of the time, and her poetry and the literary work of women and women of color of that era. Harriet on the other hand, I believe represents the notion of a "strong black woman" that black women like to tout, and feminist want to exploit. Because what she did was brave, involving physical hardship, encouragement of some through the use of a gun. She is presented in today's world as a legendary female badass. Which fits into the storyline that they craft for women today---just look at movie roles.

Anyone who cares knew what you meant. I only remembered the somewhat idiosyncratic spelling because my junior high history teacher was named Mrs. Phillip and she emphasized the spelling when we learned about Wheatley.

There's nothing inherently wrong or bad about her representing a "strong black woman". You literally didn't attempt to make any other point than "this is the type of shit feminists get up to."I'm not on the TJ Sotmayor train, so I'm not seeing what the issue is supposed to be.

[Al Doggity]

I'm not saying that Tubman was not a great human being but there is literally 50 people who are more deserving that could be on that bill.

And to compare her to Andrew Jackson? What a fucking joke.

No, you can't compare the two, but this country operated to make sure anyone who was not a white male did not achieve anything. It's a joke to pretend otherwise.

[El Diablo Blanco]

Should be put on a quarter.  Seems to be more in tune with money that black people have in their pockets.

[TSNWGS]

George Bush Jr's cousin Barack Obama is leaving office they have to appease the masses some
Way!

[Al Doggity]

Should be put on a quarter.  Seems to be more in tune with money that black people have in their pockets.

What makes you say this. I'm black. I have 7 20s in my wallet and no quarters.

[polychronopolous]

No, you can't compare the two, but this country operated to make sure anyone who was not a white male did not achieve anything. It's a joke to pretend otherwise.

It's a joke to pretend that black males have accomplished much of anything at any point in world history.

[El Diablo Blanco]

Is Tubman even American?  If she was a slave wouldn't she just be an African shipped over?

[Al Doggity]

It's a joke to pretend that black males have accomplished much of anything at any point in world history.

Tubman is a black female. No, that wouldn't be a joke. It's a joke to pretend whites (white males,specifically) haven't made a concerted effort throughout this country's history to prevent anyone without white skin from advancing.

[polychronopolous]

Tubman is a black female. No, that wouldn't be a joke. It's a joke to pretend whites (white males,specifically) haven't made a concerted effort throughout this country's history to prevent anyone without white skin from advancing.

Yeah that reminds me I need to fire that young brew on the job who wears his pants the wrong way and speaks with a non professional dialect.

[Wiggs]

Tubman is a black female. No, that wouldn't be a joke. It's a joke to pretend whites (white males,specifically) haven't made a concerted effort throughout this country's history to prevent anyone without white skin from advancing.

Damn it Al, I keep forgetting you're a Hebrew because of that Pellius picture.  Anyway, right on, good points.

[Kwon]

WE PRESIDENT NOW!

WE MONEY NOW!

[Zillotch]

It's a joke to pretend whites (white males,specifically) haven't made a concerted effort throughout this country's history to prevent anyone without white skin from advancing.

Stfu, whiny little c unt. You are pathetic.

[El Diablo Blanco]

I would bet a lot of money that the majority of American Blacks maybe up to 90% of them have no fucking clue why Tubman is even famous in the first place.

[Al Doggity]

Stfu, whiny little c unt. You are pathetic.

DM me your address. I am going to send you a box of dicks to eat.

[Al Doggity]

I would bet a lot of money that the majority of American Blacks maybe up to 90% of them have no fucking clue why Tubman is even famous in the first place.

90% of Americans have no idea what most of the white dudes on money have done. What's your point?

[El Diablo Blanco]

90% of Americans have no idea what most of the white dudes on money have done. What's your point?

That's also true.  But forcing a black woman on the bill to bump someone else off because of how great she is that the majority of Americans know nothing about seems like a waste of time.

[Voice of Doom]

Putting the picture of a slave on a piece of fiat currency seems about right.

[Al Doggity]

That's also true.  But forcing a black woman on the bill to bump someone else off because of how great she is that the majority of Americans know nothing about seems like a waste of time.

It's pictures of dead people on money. How is Tubman's picture any more of a waste of time than the others?


You can try to dress it up and tap dance around it, but the argument you're making is that it irritates you that American history isn't being told exclusively from the perspective of white people. The reason that white men dominated how American history played out was not by chance. The slave trade is a part of American history. The trail of tears is a part of American history. This country was built on the backs of slaves, on genocide  and on systematic racism. Do you really think that the civil war was about taxation? Slavery wasn't just a part of the southern economy. It WAS the southern economy.

[Parker]

Anyone who cares knew what you meant. I only remembered the somewhat idiosyncratic spelling because my junior high history teacher was named Mrs. Phillip and she emphasized the spelling when we learned about Wheatley.

There's nothing inherently wrong or bad about her representing a "strong black woman". You literally didn't attempt to make any other point than "this is the type of shit feminists get up to."I'm not on the TJ Sotmayor train, so I'm not seeing what the issue is supposed to be.

My point was that Phillis represents the mental, the cognitive, creative attributes and accomplishments. Harriet represents the physical. Again, black folk reduced to the physical. The "strong black woman" mantra, is that something born of the 60s, or some remnant of slavery, again reducing black folk to the physical nature of menial labor? I'm not on the Sotomayor train as well. There are already too many passengers.

Harriet is a good choice, I just think that there were others. And who knows, they probably had a list of women. I was listening to the Secretary of The Treasury speaking on this yesterday. Some would even think Madame CJ Walker (she was all about the dollars) would be good.

Putting the picture of a slave on a piece of fiat currency seems about right.

The symbolism, how right you are.

[BodyConnoisseur]

It's pictures of dead people on money. How is Tubman's picture any more of a waste of time than the others?


You can try to dress it up and tap dance around it, but the argument you're making is that it irritates you that American history isn't being told exclusively from the perspective of white people. The reason that white men dominated how American history played out was not by chance. The slave trade is a part of American history. The trail of tears is a part of American history. This country was built on the backs of slaves, on genocide  and on systematic racism. Do you really think that the civil war was about taxation? Slavery wasn't just a part of the southern economy. It WAS the southern economy.

This world is built on the survival of the fittest, don't cry because your ancestors were stupid. While you were playing checkers we were and are always playing chess

[Al Doggity]

This world is built on the survival of the fittest, don't cry because your ancestors were stupid. While you were playing checkers we were and are always playing chess

  Aren't you the one who said you were moving to Italy because the picture on a $20 is changing? I'll leave the dramatic hysterics to you. You don't seem like a "survival of the fittest" type. 

[drkaje]

That's also true.  But forcing a black woman on the bill to bump someone else off because of how great she is that the majority of Americans know nothing about seems like a waste of time.

Do you think 90% of Americans know a goddamn thing about anyone else on currency?

[drkaje]

This world is built on the survival of the fittest, don't cry because your ancestors were stupid. While you were playing checkers we were and are always playing chess

Posting from Italy, are we?

[BodyConnoisseur]

Aren't you the one who said you were moving to Italy because the picture on a $20 is changing? I'll leave the dramatic hysterics to you. You don't seem like a survivor.

I'm actually from Italy, so me returning home isnt some big deal. We keep the monkeys in place where I'm from

[Al Doggity]

I'm actually from Italy, so me returning home isnt some big deal. We keep the monkeys in place where I'm from

I don't care where you're from, If you're Italian, don't try to pass yourself off as a  great American. And if you are a pussy, don't try to pass yourself off as a survivor.