Whole-body ED?

[Sokolsky]

Recently got into a conversation about frequency of training with a guy from boxing (he doesn't box himself), where he told me he trains every body part each day split between three workouts. I'm curious whether anyone has actually tried this, as I was somewhat stupified by such a workout regime. The guy was obviously on gear, being out of breath after throwing a basketball once, so healthwise I wouldn't really consider it recommendable.

Aside from obviously having to be able to dedicate significant time to working out in such a fashion (his literal answer to this was; Well, what else should I be doing with my time?), has anyone ever tried such a thing? I'm aware of athletes training multiple times a day; bulgarian method of weightlifting and such. But for bodybuilding, surely, it's ineffective?

Guy looked to be around 110kg at 1,70m or so at relatively low bodyfat.

[a_pupil]

tried it and it wasn't effective. if you are just focussing on bringing up your lifts like the bulgarians were then it is effective. that was also their full time job.

as a bodybuilder, doing enough volume and different exercises needed for aesthetics every day causes joint pain and burnout.

the best high frequency split i've found that gives results and is good on the joints is:
mon chest, triceps, shoulders
wed back biceps rear delts
fri   workout 1
mon workout 2
tue workout 1
etc

Don't train legs anymore except for hit cardio and warm up bodyweight squats lol.

[oldtimer1]

Do you mean he trains his whole body each workout three times a week?  That's old school and effective. Especially with those who train without gear. With a split there is overlap and the body fatigues systemically and not isolated to the muscle trained.

[_aj_]

Whole body erectile dysfunction. The perils of getting old...

[Sokolsky]

Do you mean he trains his whole body each workout three times a week?  That's old school and effective. Especially with those who train without gear. With a split there is overlap and the body fatigues systemically and not isolated to the muscle trained.

No, I meant as in he hits for example legs in the morning, chest/arms afternoon, and back in the evening. Every day...

[Yamcha]

Who in the hell has the time to do such nonsense?

[_aj_]

No, I meant as in he hits for example legs in the morning, chest/arms afternoon, and back in the evening. Every day...

Does he live in the back room at the gym?

[Mr Anabolic]

No, I meant as in he hits for example legs in the morning, chest/arms afternoon, and back in the evening. Every day...

Absurd. 

[mazrim]

I do full body every day (6 days a week). Doesn't take that long really. About an hour.

[a_pupil]

I do full body every day (6 days a week). Doesn't take that long really. About an hour.

how many exercises and sets per bodypart? you lift heavy or more volume/pumping style?

it makes sense scientifically as if you hit your muscles more frequently it adds up. However bodybuilding is voodoo and science hasn't come with all the right answers currently.

[FREAKgeek]

If you're hitting the same muscle groups 3 or more times a week it's not a HIT, progressive overload style, more of an endurance, make a quota type of workout. Both can be effective if the joints can handle it.

[mazrim]

how many exercises and sets per bodypart? you lift heavy or more volume/pumping style?

it makes sense scientifically as if you hit your muscles more frequently it adds up. However bodybuilding is voodoo and science hasn't come with all the right answers currently.

Basically it is 4-5 sets per muscle group (1 exercise) each day. Arms usually 2 exercises but 4 sets still.
M-W-F I do "heavier" (8-12 reps) with bench or something more "compound" for chest. Same principle for other muscle groups.

T-TH-Sat it is higher reps (about 20) and something like cable crossovers for chest, etc.

Yeah, I used to do one muscle group a week, then switched to 2, then 3, and now this.

[_bruce_]

Whole body erectile dysfunction. The perils of getting old...

 

[Donny]

If you're hitting the same muscle groups 3 or more times a week it's not a HIT, progressive overload style, more of an endurance, make a quota type of workout. Both can be effective if the joints can handle it.

I agree.. Boxers or other Athletes can train very intensive for a period but not over the long haul. I would bet he throws in a lot of Body weight stuff in there too. no way anyone can train with High Intensity every Day each muscle Group. Maybe Benches one Day push ups the next and so on.. I train Full Body at the moment and need sometimes two days off before i train full body again however i am running and doing other things too which are taxing too. if it works for him fair play to him.

[io856]

how many exercises and sets per bodypart? you lift heavy or more volume/pumping style?

it makes sense scientifically as if you hit your muscles more frequently it adds up. However bodybuilding is voodoo and science hasn't come with all the right answers currently.

Bullshit

You do realise that strength sports like rugby and american football are popular sports right?
These massive sports require muscle mass and favourable body composition.
There has also been a huge amount of investment in sports science to find the optimal muscular hypertrophy training methodology. In particular, for these sports and others.
Muscular hypertrophy is a well studied field, plenty of peer reviewed data out there and plenty of meta analysis.
Its out there, if you take the time out to review the studies and their results.

[Hulkotron]

Tends to be a "program" done by the smaller guys in my experience.

[FREAKgeek]

I agree.. Boxers or other Athletes can train very intensive for a period but not over the long haul. I would bet he throws in a lot of Body weight stuff in there too. no way anyone can train with High Intensity every Day each muscle Group. Maybe Benches one Day push ups the next and so on.. I train Full Body at the moment and need sometimes two days off before i train full body again however i am running and doing other things too which are taxing too. if it works for him fair play to him.

Yeah definitely. Running will kill your strength esp. squat and pressing, if you're not careful.

[milone79]

tried it and it wasn't effective. if you are just focussing on bringing up your lifts like the bulgarians were then it is effective. that was also their full time job.

as a bodybuilder, doing enough volume and different exercises needed for aesthetics every day causes joint pain and burnout.

the best high frequency split i've found that gives results and is good on the joints is:
mon chest, triceps, shoulders
wed back biceps rear delts
fri   workout 1
mon workout 2
tue workout 1
etc

Don't train legs anymore except for hit cardio and warm up bodyweight squats lol.

possible the stupidest split I ever read on here.......do you even  fucking lift??

[Donny]

Yeah definitely. Running will kill your strength esp. squat and pressing, if you're not careful.

Yes Gironda said years ago said running will waste your strength and Bill Pearl said if you have enough strength to still go running you have not trained hard enough in the Gym(in a Book). Both are correct to an extent, i spoke about my running and Martial arts training with Bill Pearl on the Phone and he did say "weight training will effect your martial arts training"..the other way round. I see both as a happy Marriage if you get the balance. Weight training and cardio go hand in hand if you are a Martial artist or boxer. I mention this because the OP wrote the guy was into Boxing training.