Is DALLAS MCCARVER the strongest IFBB-Pro these days?

[affeman]

I can't think of any other Pro moving poundages like that these days

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[io856]

josh lenartowicz is moving seriously heavy weight here

340kg DLs for 5

but yeah McCarver is up there with some seriously impressive lifts

[Man of Steel]

Dallas is in Lilliebridge territory.

I'd guess he has an 825 dead, 525 bench and if his squat is in the 700s that's a great total.

[240 is Back]

geez that bar is bending.  

I miss the days of fake weight easy shoulder presses with 405 pounds.

[Spike]

He trains with that Matt Jansen kid - they push weight

[Parker]

And we all know what happens to guys that continually push that heavy "light weight", don't we?

[WannaBePro]

And we all know what happens to guys that continually push that heavy "light weight", don't we?

At least we have something to watch now, like we did with Ronnie. So sick of Phil/Rhoden/Dexter pushing baby weight "for the pump" and then talk in a monotone voice about how brutal the pump is. Watching Ronnie squat 800x2 got more people stoked to go to the gym than every training video Phil's put out.
I like that Dallas is putting this kind of stuff out there. I hope once he's in his mid-late-30's he smartens up and trains lighter. But as he's still young, why not put out some cool content? It can only bring him more positive attention!

[Henda]

Great to see a pro who actually trains, a rare sight these days

[Parker]

At least we have something to watch now, like we did with Ronnie. So sick of Phil/Rhoden/Dexter pushing baby weight "for the pump" and then talk in a monotone voice about how brutal the pump is. Watching Ronnie squat 800x2 got more people stoked to go to the gym than every training video Phil's put out.
I like that Dallas is putting this kind of stuff out there. I hope once he's in his mid-late-30's he smartens up and trains lighter. But as he's still young, why not put out some cool content? It can only bring him more positive attention!

Yeah, basically we have a train wreck to watch. What really separated Ronnie was not just the weight, but the intensity. And that is what Dallas lacks.
Also, Phil, Rhoden, and especially Dex and Vince have longevity, due to that pumper philosophy.
And so would you rather lift heavy and potentially screw up your physique for likes by random bodybuilding fans, or seek for longevity and money in your pocket?
I am not denying that watching dudes put up the heavy weight is cool or entertaining, but looking at the whole picture, the question is it worth it? Ronnie Coleman with 8 Mr. O's can had had multiple surgeries on his back, and looks to not be able to walk without an aid. Vince Taylor will be 60 this year and looks better than most 20-30 yr olds, and is one of the winningest bodybuilders of all time. Dex is in his mid 40s, and has won the Mr. O, won his 5th Arnold, and placed 2nd to Phil, who is about 10 years his junior. And Phil, is a 5 time Mr. O. Also, we could go into the fact Flex Wheeler is a pumper, Shawn Ray, and Arnold himself is as well.

[_aj_]

Great to see a pro who actually trains, a rare sight these days

Pretty soon, the drugs will be so good that training won't make an enormous difference. It'll be the drugs and the genetic response to drugs.

[SuperTed]

Dallas has to be one of the strongest pro's of all time.

[Waller]

Yeah, basically we have a train wreck to watch. What really separated Ronnie was not just the weight, but the intensity. And that is what Dallas lacks.

I have to disagree here. Anyone that deadlifts will know that 8 plates a side isn't a weight you can reach without intensity. Something like that doesn't happen lackadaisically.

[Yamcha]

Yelling Hebrewic Gibberish does not equate Intensity.

[Parker]

Dallas has to be one of the strongest pro's of all time.

I  guess yall forgot Stan "Rhino" Efferding and JOJ, and Chris Cormier?

I have to disagree here. Anyone that deadlifts will know that 8 plates a side isn't a weight you can reach without intensity. Something like that doesn't happen lackadaisically.

take a look at Ronnie's vids again. Dallas lacks that aura of "I am going to lift the gym, the state, nation, the continent, the whole damn world" type of intensity. And then he smiles and laughs, because he enjoys it.

As a matter of fact, take a look at Ronnie's rehab vids, he approaches the rehab the same damn way.

[BIG_STI]

Dallas is in Lilliebridge territory.

I'd guess he has an 825 dead, 525 bench and if his squat is in the 700s that's a great total.

Other than his bench nothing is close to Erics numbers they weigh around the same, but for a guy whos not training for a max single these numbers are crazy.

[WannaBePro]

Yeah, basically we have a train wreck to watch. What really separated Ronnie was not just the weight, but the intensity. And that is what Dallas lacks.
Also, Phil, Rhoden, and especially Dex and Vince have longevity, due to that pumper philosophy.
And so would you rather lift heavy and potentially screw up your physique for likes by random bodybuilding fans, or seek for longevity and money in your pocket?
I am not denying that watching dudes put up the heavy weight is cool or entertaining, but looking at the whole picture, the question is it worth it? Ronnie Coleman with 8 Mr. O's can had had multiple surgeries on his back, and looks to not be able to walk without an aid. Vince Taylor will be 60 this year and looks better than most 20-30 yr olds, and is one of the winningest bodybuilders of all time. Dex is in his mid 40s, and has won the Mr. O, won his 5th Arnold, and placed 2nd to Phil, who is about 10 years his junior. And Phil, is a 5 time Mr. O. Also, we could go into the fact Flex Wheeler is a pumper, Shawn Ray, and Arnold himself is as well.

Is he really just doing it for the fans though? Maybe he enjoys lifting heavy-ass weight? And why not show it off?
And yes, those guys you mentioned have longevity on their side. But lets be real here, Dallas is white, he won't outlast those guys like Ronnie COULD have if he toned down his training into his later years as a competitive pro.
I know this is an unpopular opinion here, and believe me, I do think the heavy lifting contributed to this, but Ronnie's whole family had hip replacement surgeries. And he's the only one who actually lifted weights... I'm sure he could've put it off longer by not squatting and deadlifting inhuman weight, but it looks like he would've had to have that surgery done eventually, regardless. Now, the spinal surgeries, yes, that's probably due to the lifting.

[Disco187]

I have to disagree here. Anyone that deadlifts will know that 8 plates a side isn't a weight you can reach without intensity. Something like that doesn't happen lackadaisically.

I thought the same thing.


the unbelievable was such a inspirational dvd for me. I must of watched that 10 times.
blood and guts aswell, my friend had a worn out vhs tape of it and we still would sit around and watch the tape through the distortion of the tape and be motivated as can be.

[io856]

holy shit 5 plates a side bench for reps

this guy is the real deal!

[Parker]

Is he really just doing it for the fans though? Maybe he enjoys lifting heavy-ass weight? And why not show it off?
And yes, those guys you mentioned have longevity on their side. But lets be real here, Dallas is white, he won't outlast those guys like Ronnie COULD have if he toned down his training into his later years as a competitive pro.
I know this is an unpopular opinion here, and believe me, I do think the heavy lifting contributed to this, but Ronnie's whole family had hip replacement surgeries. And he's the only one who actually lifted weights... I'm sure he could've put it off longer by not squatting and deadlifting inhuman weight, but it looks like he would've had to have that surgery done eventually, regardless. Now, the spinal surgeries, yes, that's probably due to the lifting.

I don't mind the show off, what you can do in the gym, but as we know with JOJ, it doesn't always translate well to doing well in a show. Remember when Phil Heath did that 225 bench off? You ain't never see him do something like that again, either.
If you are a competitive bodybuilder, your job is to compete. Once we get into the "let's go for PRs" territory, then you are risking injury and the "I told you so" from the bodybulding community. Getbig is famous for cheering on certain behavior, and then when the inevitable happens, the forum starts calling the person a idiot.

I thought the same thing.


the unbelievable was such a inspirational dvd for me. I must of watched that 10 times.
blood and guts aswell, my friend had a worn out vhs tape of it and we still would sit around and watch the tape through the distortion of the tape and be motivated as can be.

The Unbelievable was the same way for me. And then it was either I grew up and the fact that I see Ronnie Coleman with all these injuries, yet his comtemporaries don't have them---and even Kevin used to bench heavy. That I realized that maybe Ronnie took it too far.

[SuperTed]

I  guess yall forgot Stan "Rhino" Efferding and JOJ, and Chris Cormier?

Efferding probably holds the title as the strongest ever pro. As for the others, crazy strong for sure but I can't think of many pro's in history who could pull in the mid 800's like Dallas can. That's in elite levels.

[WannaBePro]

I don't mind the show off, what you can do in the gym, but as we know with JOJ, it doesn't always translate well to doing well in a show. Remember when Phil Heath did that 225 bench off? You ain't never see him do something like that again, either.
If you are a competitive bodybuilder, your job is to compete. Once we get into the "let's go for PRs" territory, then you are risking injury and the "I told you so" from the bodybulding community. Getbig is famous for cheering on certain behavior, and then when the inevitable happens, the forum starts calling the person a idiot.
The Unbelievable was the same way for me. And then it was either I grew up and the fact that I see Ronnie Coleman with all these injuries, yet his comtemporaries don't have them---and even Kevin used to bench heavy. That I realized that maybe Ronnie took it too far.

That's fair. I see your point. Dallas does have a good physique, though, he's balanced unlike JOJ. But I do believe that if Dallas wants to sling heavy weight, maybe he should do a couple powerlifting meets. In any case, I'm just glad to see something "hardcore" come out of bodybuilding these days and not Phil's 4 plate hammer strength chest press...

[io856]

And we all know what happens to guys that continually push that heavy "light weight", don't we?

What do you mean by heavy weight?

Lifting below 6RM?

[Parker]

That's fair. I see your point. Dallas does have a good physique, though, he's balanced unlike JOJ. But I do believe that if Dallas wants to sling heavy weight, maybe he should do a couple powerlifting meets. In any case, I'm just glad to see something "hardcore" come out of bodybuilding these days and not Phil's 4 plate hammer strength chest press...

I don't mind, I guess what I mean is that expect balance...a mix of hardcore and other. What works for Phil works for him. And actually I think someone said that he more than likely can push the heavy weight, but he is not trying to get injuried.
I know of people who watched his first DVD and said that it was boring, and about the only intense vids that he has are his arm workout vids.

What do you mean by heavy weight?

Lifting below 6RM?

We all "know" what heavy weight means. Heavy Weight=Ronnie Weight (that makes him shake his head really quickly, and yell "yeah buddy...Boooooo!!!")

[local hero]

Yeah, basically we have a train wreck to watch. What really separated Ronnie was not just the weight, but the intensity. And that is what Dallas lacks.
Also, Phil, Rhoden, and especially Dex and Vince have longevity, due to that pumper philosophy.
And so would you rather lift heavy and potentially screw up your physique for likes by random bodybuilding fans, or seek for longevity and money in your pocket?
I am not denying that watching dudes put up the heavy weight is cool or entertaining, but looking at the whole picture, the question is it worth it? Ronnie Coleman with 8 Mr. O's can had had multiple surgeries on his back, and looks to not be able to walk without an aid. Vince Taylor will be 60 this year and looks better than most 20-30 yr olds, and is one of the winningest bodybuilders of all time. Dex is in his mid 40s, and has won the Mr. O, won his 5th Arnold, and placed 2nd to Phil, who is about 10 years his junior. And Phil, is a 5 time Mr. O. Also, we could go into the fact Flex Wheeler is a pumper, Shawn Ray, and Arnold himself is as well.

Reeks of racism.....

[Tha Grim Lifter]

I've trained lighter for periods in the past few years (still to failure) but once I start doing some heavy weights again nothing beats it. The soreness the next day feels awesome  .

But as you get older no need to be stupid. Ronnie should have backed off.