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http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/28/us/baltimore-13-year-old-shot/

CNN)Baltimore police on Thursday defended the shooting a day before of a 13-year-old carrying a replica gun, saying authorities had little option but to pursue the boy when they saw him walking down the street with what looked like a deadly handgun.
"I would argue our police officers were compelled to act when they saw that 13-year-old with a gun in his hand," Baltimore Police Commissioner Kevin Davis told reporters.

"I would argue our police officers were compelled to act when they saw that 13-year-old with a gun in his hand," Baltimore Police Commissioner Kevin Davis told reporters."

Two plainclothes detectives, one male and one female, were returning from a strategy session on how to deal with a recent spate of gun violence when they spotted the teen walking down the street, Davis said.

They identified themselves and ordered him to drop the gun, but the boy ran for about 150 yards with the officers in pursuit, Davis said.

A witness interviewed by both CNN affiliate WBAL-TV and by the police said the boy turned back toward the officers with the gun in his hands before he was shot.

"I heard him yell, 'It's not real,' like twice, and that quick, the male officer shot him twice in the leg," said the man, whom the station identified only as Bryan.

One of the two officers, a 12-year-veteran named Thomas Smith, shot the teenager twice, once in the leg and once in the shoulder, according to Davis.

The teen is expected to recover from his injuries, police said.

What police at first thought could have been a gun turned out to be a Daisy Powerline 340 .177-caliber BB gun. The weapon is meant to be used for target shooting, according to Davis.

Davis called the weapon "a dead-on ringer for a Beretta 92FS semiautomatic pistol."
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Doesn't even state the boy's race.

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Here's a photo of two of the types of guns involved, and a Airsoft pistol. Anyone want to guess which is which from a glance?

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It's a new age, don't let your kids carry realistic toy guns :(.

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Here's a photo of two of the guns involved, and a Airsoft pistol. Anyone want to guess which is which from a glance?

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It's a new age, don't let your kids carry realistic toy guns :(.

They look real, especially from a distance.  :-\ :-\
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Since when is it illegal to carry a gun down the street in America  ???

Cops overreacted, I'll side with the liberals on this one.  ;)

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i'd have shot his ass too.    Sorry, but someone with a gun saying "don't worry, it's fake" while refusing to stop or drop it?

lucky he was just shot in the leg twice.   

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Doesn't even state the boy's race.



Let's see here.....Baltimore Maryland, cops chasing a kid and has no qualms with shooting him. ;D  
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Let's see here.....Baltimore Maryland, cops chasing a kid and has no qualms with shooting him. ;D  

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Re: Baltimore police: Officers 'compelled' to chase 13-year-old with BB gun
« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2016, 07:07:31 AM »
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Re: Baltimore police: Officers 'compelled' to chase 13-year-old with BB gun
« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2016, 07:29:08 AM »
Since when is it illegal to carry a gun down the street in America  ???

Cops overreacted, I'll side with the liberals on this one.  ;)

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Re: Baltimore police: Officers 'compelled' to chase 13-year-old with BB gun
« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2016, 07:48:49 AM »
i'd have shot his ass too.    Sorry, but someone with a gun saying "don't worry, it's fake" while refusing to stop or drop it?

lucky he was just shot in the leg twice.   

Back in my day parents told kids ; " Be careful with that or you'll put someone's eye out."

Had getbiggers been around when we were kids, many adults today would be wearing eye patches."

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Re: Baltimore police: Officers 'compelled' to chase 13-year-old with BB gun
« Reply #13 on: April 29, 2016, 08:14:37 AM »
Back in my day parents told kids ; " Be careful with that or you'll put someone's eye out."

Had getbiggers been around when we were kids, many adults today would be wearing eye patches."

True, but when a cop yells "drop it", you drop it.   It's near impossible to tell a BB gun isn't a real gun when the kid is RUNNING with it.  that gun is a blur and the cop is scared, for his safety and that of others.

I'm very hard on bad cops, I hate them because the woman cop (now retired) that threatened me in 1994 is still out there, and I follow her closely so one day I can bump into her and tell her what a piece of shit she was.  And one day, I absolutely will.  You threatened a poor kid with a fake ticket if he tried explaining the red light scale... you're a piece of shit for that, and everyone should know this.

But in this case, it's very sad, but I cannot fault the cops for firing.  Shooting in the legs was a safe choice for them, they could have shot higher.

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Re: Baltimore police: Officers 'compelled' to chase 13-year-old with BB gun
« Reply #14 on: April 29, 2016, 08:24:41 AM »
True, but when a cop yells "drop it", you drop it.   It's near impossible to tell a BB gun isn't a real gun when the kid is RUNNING with it.  that gun is a blur and the cop is scared, for his safety and that of others.

I'm very hard on bad cops, I hate them because the woman cop (now retired) that threatened me in 1994 is still out there, and I follow her closely so one day I can bump into her and tell her what a piece of shit she was.  And one day, I absolutely will.  You threatened a poor kid with a fake ticket if he tried explaining the red light scale... you're a piece of shit for that, and everyone should know this.

But in this case, it's very sad, but I cannot fault the cops for firing.  Shooting in the legs was a safe choice for them, they could have shot higher.
LMFAO at you still holding a grudge and whining about a cop threatening you with a ticket over 20 years ago!! Get some psychiatric help you broken fuckin wingnut.
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Re: Baltimore police: Officers 'compelled' to chase 13-year-old with BB gun
« Reply #15 on: April 29, 2016, 08:57:20 AM »
True, but when a cop yells "drop it", you drop it.   I

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/27/police-shooting-13-year-old-boy-baltimore-freddie-gray
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The officers were in an unmarked car and were not wearing uniforms and Davis could not say how many shots had been fired, although two police markers used to mark identify shell casings could be seen.
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Witnesses said that the mother came up on the scene, screaming. “They slammed her and locked her up,” one said.
Davis said the mother had not been arrested but was being questioned.
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Re: Baltimore police: Officers 'compelled' to chase 13-year-old with BB gun
« Reply #16 on: April 29, 2016, 09:05:16 AM »
LMFAO at you still holding a grudge and whining about a cop threatening you with a ticket over 20 years ago!! Get some psychiatric help you broken fuckin wingnut.

she was a bag of shit.  there's no statute of limitations on that.

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Re: Baltimore police: Officers 'compelled' to chase 13-year-old with BB gun
« Reply #17 on: April 29, 2016, 09:16:20 AM »
True, but when a cop yells "drop it", you drop it.   It's near impossible to tell a BB gun isn't a real gun when the kid is RUNNING with it.  that gun is a blur and the cop is scared, for his safety and that of others.

I'm very hard on bad cops, I hate them because the woman cop (now retired) that threatened me in 1994 is still out there, and I follow her closely so one day I can bump into her and tell her what a piece of shit she was.  And one day, I absolutely will.  You threatened a poor kid with a fake ticket if he tried explaining the red light scale... you're a piece of shit for that, and everyone should know this.

But in this case, it's very sad, but I cannot fault the cops for firing.  Shooting in the legs was a safe choice for them, they could have shot higher.

Hi Rob,

Thanks for sharing that experience with us. It sounds like it was a difficult situation to be in and it clearly affected how you see police officers. I'd imagine it was tough to write the above paragraph.

Good for you for opening up.
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Re: Baltimore police: Officers 'compelled' to chase 13-year-old with BB gun
« Reply #18 on: April 29, 2016, 10:16:45 AM »
True, but when a cop yells "drop it", you drop it.   It's near impossible to tell a BB gun isn't a real gun when the kid is RUNNING with it.  that gun is a blur and the cop is scared, for his safety and that of others.

I'm very hard on bad cops, I hate them because the woman cop (now retired) that threatened me in 1994 is still out there, and I follow her closely so one day I can bump into her and tell her what a piece of shit she was.  And one day, I absolutely will.  You threatened a poor kid with a fake ticket if he tried explaining the red light scale... you're a piece of shit for that, and everyone should know this.

But in this case, it's very sad, but I cannot fault the cops for firing.  Shooting in the legs was a safe choice for them, they could have shot higher.

Don't know how to tell you this without just coming out and saying it.. They didn't "choose" to shot him in the leg and shoulder, they shot for center mass and as often happens, the rounds hit in the general area, as it was probably a moving target and cops aren't Annie Oakley   

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Re: Baltimore police: Officers 'compelled' to chase 13-year-old with BB gun
« Reply #19 on: April 29, 2016, 10:22:55 AM »
Don't know how to tell you this without just coming out and saying it.. They didn't "choose" to shot him in the leg and shoulder, they shot for center mass and as often happens, the rounds hit in the general area, as it was probably a moving target and cops aren't Annie Oakley   

oh, i'm well aware of this, always shoot center mass. 

my belief is that if it somehow ended up with the round in the leg... the cop likely chose at the last second to go low.  maybe it's because the kid was so young, and a crippled kid can cure cancer one day, but a dead kid puts the cop on CNN with potential riots.

maybe they finally caught up with the kid, just chose not to put them in his pizza box.  We're all just speculating on a news story here, and I know they are trained to go center mass.   I"m just saying they're human, and they've seen many cops' lives ruined by media coverage.  if the cop sees a weapon but isn't quite sure what weapon is, he sees it's a 5 foot tall, 14 year old, maybe at the last second he doesn't put 4 in the lungs, maybe he shoots low then wings the kid.  The pursuit is over, it's a small story, the kid lives.

I'm not saying I know anything, I'm saying if I had to bet, I believe this cop could have ended this kids' breathing, and maybe swayed a bit at the last second due to a number of factors.

We already know from studies that police are less likely to pull trigger based on race because it changes their career for the worst due to media:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jan/5/police-officers-more-hesitant-to-shoot-black-suspe/?page=all

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Re: Baltimore police: Officers 'compelled' to chase 13-year-old with BB gun
« Reply #20 on: April 29, 2016, 11:47:04 AM »
she was a bag of shit.  there's no statute of limitations on that.
What kind of sheltered life did you lead where that is what left an indelible impression on you of cops? Is that the only interaction you've ever had with police? I don't mean when your auntie got drunk and started a fist fight with the neighbor kid over the last drumstick, I mean as a suspect or a person of interest (my personal favorite)
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Re: Baltimore police: Officers 'compelled' to chase 13-year-old with BB gun
« Reply #21 on: April 29, 2016, 11:54:33 AM »
What kind of sheltered life did you lead where that is what left an indelible impression on you of cops? Is that the only interaction you've ever had with police? I don't mean when your auntie got drunk and started a fist fight with the neighbor kid over the last drumstick, I mean as a suspect or a person of interest (my personal favorite)

i've been stopped a lot, and usually cops are super cool.  I'm friendly and respectful and so are they.  As a kid, they were a little ruder on me.   Now if I'm out at night, I'm a working man with receding hairline just trying to get home, just like that... most people on the road at night are buzzed and much more worthy targets.

This one particular officer received accommodation in the local newspaper the following month for having the most citations the previous month.  She ran up her numbers by waiting for a poor 18 year old, coming home from work, to give up on a non-functional red light scale at 1am, and pulled me over for it.  Then when I tried to explain the construction left it so the light wouldn't change - which she obviously knew, hiding in the dark waiting for me to do so - then she told me if I said another word, I'd get a ticket for my seat belt - which was on.

I'm a very law abiding citizen.  When someone abuses power like that, screw her.  These days, I'd fight it, but I was just a kid and she was just a 30-something cop trying to get recognized by nailing people due to non-functional light.

I've been stopped lots of times, and most cops are awesome.  Not this one.

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Re: Baltimore police: Officers 'compelled' to chase 13-year-old with BB gun
« Reply #22 on: April 29, 2016, 11:57:36 AM »
i've been stopped a lot, and usually cops are super cool.  I'm friendly and respectful and so are they.  As a kid, they were a little ruder on me.   Now if I'm out at night, I'm a working man with receding hairline just trying to get home, just like that... most people on the road at night are buzzed and much more worthy targets.

This one particular officer received accommodation in the local newspaper the following month for having the most citations the previous month.  She ran up her numbers by waiting for a poor 18 year old, coming home from work, to give up on a non-functional red light scale at 1am, and pulled me over for it.  Then when I tried to explain the construction left it so the light wouldn't change - which she obviously knew, hiding in the dark waiting for me to do so - then she told me if I said another word, I'd get a ticket for my seat belt - which was on.

I'm a very law abiding citizen.  When someone abuses power like that, screw her.  These days, I'd fight it, but I was just a kid and she was just a 30-something cop trying to get recognized by nailing people due to non-functional light.

I've been stopped lots of times, and most cops are awesome.  Not this one.

Why not post her name and badge number on getbig?  ;D

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Re: Baltimore police: Officers 'compelled' to chase 13-year-old with BB gun
« Reply #23 on: April 29, 2016, 12:01:03 PM »
LMFAO at you still holding a grudge and whining about a cop threatening you with a ticket over 20 years ago!! Get some psychiatric help you broken fuckin wingnut.

Dude is trolling…. gotta be.

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Re: Baltimore police: Officers 'compelled' to chase 13-year-old with BB gun
« Reply #24 on: April 29, 2016, 12:03:29 PM »
Why not post her name and badge number on getbig?  ;D

haha she's retired.  and I've let it go lol.... until a getbig debate comes up, then I recall how much of an ass she was.  That's it tho.

It was police threat abuse of a young and impressionable youth, ya know?   I know kids get beat down by bad police all the time, way worse than anything I went thru.  She was a dick.