Pavol is Czech, and his thickness and density had to be seen to be believed, like yates he was one of those guys whos photos don't do him justice, Milos was a well balanced physique, just not as balanced mentally, always found him to be a nice guy, he gets a bad wrap, most of the guys he trained or helped did a lot more than what he advised them to, he was always fairly moderate compared to the GH 15 Nasser types. hope he eventually found peace somewhere.